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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1921
I do not understand those mutas. I think there are better passive army compositions.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1922
aLive 2-0 Minigun
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TL+ Member
bagina
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada43 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1923
same old story for idra. its brutalllllllllll to watch.

no upgrades, no tech. make a shitton of lings and piss away all ur gas into mutas even though u scout your opponent going BLINK STALKER and PHOENIX.

grack needs to l2p infestors.
sonkaliniz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States178 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1924
BlinG's PvT is just beautifull to watch
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1925
On March 25 2012 02:51 tetracycloide wrote:
IdrA throws his whole army away in a dumb direct confrontation against a protoss all-in?! Shock of shocks...



that wasn't an all in..
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1926
Oh god, has anyone seen the brackets?

Tyler, Sheth, and TLO all on the same bracket in the Loser's Round.

Only 1 can advance T_T
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1927
Man ThorZaIN vs BlinG is mad! but seems like BlinG is in very good shape! Banked a ton and holds the middle on Antiga
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1928
On March 25 2012 02:50 Flanq wrote:
IdrA's ZvP still a bag of shit and biscuits.

He makes zerg look like a hopeless race in that matchup.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 17:52:46
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1929
On March 25 2012 02:51 hysterial wrote:
JyP 0-4 vs Stephano, 2-0's Idra without a sweat.


Are you honestly comparing the second best foreigner(imo ;p) with IdrA?
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1930
lol awkward handshake from IdrA and JYP.

I think IdrA needs to go back to the drawing board with his ZvP.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Grey8
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany42 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1931
Kawaiirice beat sheth 2-0!
I wanna be, the very best...
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1932
On March 25 2012 02:51 hysterial wrote:
JyP 0-4 vs Stephano, 2-0's Idra without a sweat.

well stephano is in an entirely different league than Idra.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1933
CrazymoviNG 2-0 SeleCT
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1934
Ostojiy takes game 1 from Puma? Nice!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1935
On March 25 2012 02:49 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:45 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:42 ACrow wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:39 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:35 ACrow wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:30 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:29 voy wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:27 Megabuster123 wrote:
DRG goes Muta against Blink stalker all the time...>_>

People like to rip on Idra for no reason..



but IdrA did not win GSL Code S. he is like master player for DRG, sorry.

People are ripping on the strategy.. I'm not saying Idra is even remotely comparable to DRG. Even Idra says that DRG is unbelievable.

But the muta build is fine even when the protoss is going mass blink stalker...>_>

Link me to the Vod where DRG executes this strategy:
-defend blink allin (Idra did a decent job here)
-have a huge supply lead (60+)
-instead of macroing up and then go for the kill, going for the kill directly with pure roch against blink stalkers, thereby donating supply
-after this, when your opponent sill has a f*ckton of blink stalkers go for mutas (for harass? why, you're up two base and don't need to harass when your opponent just starts to get his third base up; just max out on roach/ling/infestor asap and kill)
I doubt DRG would ever do this strategy.

Your post makes no sense. DRG has gone muta against blink stalker several times. He did it at winter arena and he's done it in the gsl. Idra lost because of his in-game decision making. You're asking if DRG just played exactly like Idra did in that last game which he obviously never has because he has excellent ZvP.

Idra lost because he didn't take advantage of his mutalisks at all. He didn't take expansions. He didn't tech. He did nothing but lose Muta to stalkers.

The point I was trying to make is the situation from which to go mutas. It does not make sense; a strategy should not just be "and then I go mutas, no matter what" but "and then I go mutas, if following conditions are met:...". It was poor, poor decision making. Sure DRG goes mutas, but again: I doubt he would have in that situation (decision making and planning transitions is a huge part of strategy...).

Roach into Muta works for 1 of 2 reasons.

1) Toss goes 2 base into robo and Muta's exploit anti air and immobility of robo units.

2) Protoss tries to take a third, Muta stretch them out to defend while zerg out econs the protoss.


Idra didn't lose because he went Muta. Muta is a fine choice on a big map with multiple entrance ways into bases. What lost him the game is that his economy was poorly managed, he had no additional bases and he basically did nothing despite the protoss being completely contained for an unbelievably long time.

Jyp just failed a blink allin, but preserved his blink stalkers and is still on 2 base -> the Protoss is as good defended against Mutas as he can ever be, while he is vulnerable against basically everything else.
But whatever, I guess Z is just not supposed to beat P, right? Right?

This isn't even balance QQ...>_>

I'm just saying that the zerg can go muta because he knows JYP is going for a third....>_>

And the second game Protoss went for Robo so it's fine.

Muta didn't lose Idra that game, Idra lost Idra that game.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 17:53:00
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1936
On March 25 2012 02:51 nvs. wrote:
That Collossus got off like 20 unecessary laser volleys.

Sooooooo bad.



yeah it had 40 kills. Had he targetted it, he would have an additional 20 lings around, probably would have cleared that up.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1937
That was painful ...
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1938
On March 25 2012 02:51 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:50 Malaz wrote:
Did Idra micro at all in that last battle?

He already gave up when he plant a spire after scouting phoenix. Huge mistake..


actually mutas are quite nice vs just 1 stargate
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1939
On March 25 2012 02:52 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:51 tetracycloide wrote:
IdrA throws his whole army away in a dumb direct confrontation against a protoss all-in?! Shock of shocks...



that wasn't an all in..

All Protoss attacks are all in, this is TL.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1940
On March 25 2012 02:52 Exarl25 wrote:
What was the logic behind that Muta switch? JYP had a huge Stalker count, Stargate tech, blink almost done, 3 bases. What could Mutas possibly accomplish? If he spent all that gas on Hive tech he had the game no problem.
It's that IdrA appears to not understand when to switch. You need to sweep the army completely before you go.
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