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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1841
TLO, NonY and Sheth are all in the same line of the loser's bracket.

Potential Team Liquid team kills as only one can make it to the Championship Loser's bracket.
Soma Cruz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States209 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1842
IdrA should copy Stephano, he watched him do some rapage on JYP the other day
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1843
On March 25 2012 02:48 oriox wrote:
idras got this. getting his 4th and he will keep the protoss contained with muta harass.

equal supply ZvP
mutas are more supply efficient, but idk
Vitamins
Profile Joined October 2010
United States680 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1844
On March 25 2012 02:48 Jaegeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:46 ClysmiC wrote:
IdrA knows roaches can't shoot up, right?


Maybe idra is hoping that somehow the phoenix will lift the roaches and then they will be able to shoot the phoenix as they are in the air :p


xD
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1845
On March 25 2012 02:48 Jyvblamo wrote:
"Maybe if I lose enough times with Mutas, Blizzard with buff Mutas."

Too bad for IdrA Leenock beat ranged upgraded phoenixes with mutas
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1846
This is like the worst muta switch ever
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1847
Gogo KawaiiRice :D
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1848
Wow. I really don't think I can watch this. It's painful.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1849
On March 25 2012 02:45 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:42 ACrow wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:39 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:35 ACrow wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:30 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:29 voy wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:27 Megabuster123 wrote:
DRG goes Muta against Blink stalker all the time...>_>

People like to rip on Idra for no reason..



but IdrA did not win GSL Code S. he is like master player for DRG, sorry.

People are ripping on the strategy.. I'm not saying Idra is even remotely comparable to DRG. Even Idra says that DRG is unbelievable.

But the muta build is fine even when the protoss is going mass blink stalker...>_>

Link me to the Vod where DRG executes this strategy:
-defend blink allin (Idra did a decent job here)
-have a huge supply lead (60+)
-instead of macroing up and then go for the kill, going for the kill directly with pure roch against blink stalkers, thereby donating supply
-after this, when your opponent sill has a f*ckton of blink stalkers go for mutas (for harass? why, you're up two base and don't need to harass when your opponent just starts to get his third base up; just max out on roach/ling/infestor asap and kill)
I doubt DRG would ever do this strategy.

Your post makes no sense. DRG has gone muta against blink stalker several times. He did it at winter arena and he's done it in the gsl. Idra lost because of his in-game decision making. You're asking if DRG just played exactly like Idra did in that last game which he obviously never has because he has excellent ZvP.

Idra lost because he didn't take advantage of his mutalisks at all. He didn't take expansions. He didn't tech. He did nothing but lose Muta to stalkers.

The point I was trying to make is the situation from which to go mutas. It does not make sense; a strategy should not just be "and then I go mutas, no matter what" but "and then I go mutas, if following conditions are met:...". It was poor, poor decision making. Sure DRG goes mutas, but again: I doubt he would have in that situation (decision making and planning transitions is a huge part of strategy...).

Roach into Muta works for 1 of 2 reasons.

1) Toss goes 2 base into robo and Muta's exploit anti air and immobility of robo units.

2) Protoss tries to take a third, Muta stretch them out to defend while zerg out econs the protoss.


Idra didn't lose because he went Muta. Muta is a fine choice on a big map with multiple entrance ways into bases. What lost him the game is that his economy was poorly managed, he had no additional bases and he basically did nothing despite the protoss being completely contained for an unbelievably long time.

Jyp just failed a blink allin, but preserved his blink stalkers and is still on 2 base -> the Protoss is as good defended against Mutas as he can ever be, while he is vulnerable against basically everything else.
But whatever, I guess Z is just not supposed to beat P, right? Right?
Get off my lawn, young punks
DarkMamba
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden9 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1850
IdrA has no clue at all how to play, it's impressive to see.

User was warned for this post
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1851
All the korean players seem to have amazing posture
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1852
On March 25 2012 02:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Mutas again? really?

Looks like a better chance at working since he isnt facing pure +3 blink stalker this time

but the P already had phoenix + stargate..lol cmon idra.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1853
Phoenix range please!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1854
On March 25 2012 02:48 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:48 0ne wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:46 Worldatlarge wrote:
Sheth 2-0's Polt, and then gets 2-0'd by Kawaii, nice.

So Kawaii > Polt :D


Where is that one guy saying Stephano's ZvT is in question... with one series? I guess now Sheth's "stepped up" ZvT is in question as well.


Just means KawaiiRice has a good shot at Stephano as well
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1855
On March 25 2012 02:49 last.resistance wrote:
TLO, NonY and Sheth are all in the same line of the loser's bracket.

Potential Team Liquid team kills as only one can make it to the Championship Loser's bracket.

This seems to happen a lot at MLG
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 24 2012 17:50 GMT
#1856
How is Idra ever going to engage JYPs army when he only makes mutalisk?
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 24 2012 17:50 GMT
#1857
On March 25 2012 02:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:47 SeventhPride wrote:
Why is he going mutas with phoenix on the field?? What is he thinking?!


...Because he doesn't have an infestation pit and hydras get raped by phoenix + colossus.

Idra dropped the spire AFTER seeing phoenix, he could have went infestors. -_-
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
March 24 2012 17:50 GMT
#1858
"He's going blink stalker and phoenix? I'll go muta"
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 24 2012 17:50 GMT
#1859
On March 25 2012 02:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:48 Jyvblamo wrote:
"Maybe if I lose enough times with Mutas, Blizzard with buff Mutas."

Too bad for IdrA Leenock beat ranged upgraded phoenixes with mutas

Well if they're not going to micro the pheonix's at all it's going to look embarrassing for anyone..>_>
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
March 24 2012 17:50 GMT
#1860
idra's decision making is terrible in these games.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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