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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
March 24 2012 17:35 GMT
#1701
Someone in this thread said that IdrA should play Protoss. This is very true. There would be less need of strategical thinking, because Protoss in somewhat limited in this direction compared to Zerg. IdrA's problem is that he cannot grasp the deeper sense for the way how Zerg works. Also his good macro would make him a scary Protoss player.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
TrevaH
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada122 Posts
March 24 2012 17:35 GMT
#1702
DOnt know why your saying Idra is over rated he's been proven to be top notch plenty, no one will try and tell you Idra is good at PvZ though almost all of his worst blunders and gameplay are in PvZ he's literally scared of Protoss
sirreginold
Profile Joined September 2011
United States557 Posts
March 24 2012 17:35 GMT
#1703
The decision to go muta really killed him. He should have gone infestors and made the spire for future tech switches.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 24 2012 17:35 GMT
#1704
Hey, lets get a shot of the crowd!!
YEAH AND THEN PLASTER A MLG BUTTON ON HALF THE SCREEN!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
pjc623
Profile Joined April 2010
United States213 Posts
March 24 2012 17:35 GMT
#1705
Everyone making fun of idra is being pretty short-sighted if he didn't miscontrol that one situation in the Northwest of the map with the mutas he probably would have won.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1706
If this was any other play he would not be ripped on to this extent. He hasn't been able to keep up with the quick improvement of other players it seems, but the anti-idra circle jerk is pretty retarded.
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Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1707
On March 25 2012 02:34 Type|NarutO wrote:
I really don't think IdrA deserves the bashing he gets... :x Obviously he made wrong calls here, but he's trying his best. Its not like he's saying HERP DERP MUTALISK LETS ROLLLLLLLLL when he knows he has a better option. He thought this was a good option to keep JYP defensive, and it didn't work out so well.

Hopefully he can come back.
It's more that he has god awful control than his Muta choice. He should have won the second he got an advantage over the stalkers while JYP was on 2 base -_-'
#freeshauni
Solo Terran
Profile Joined November 2011
367 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1708
SOMEONE GET THE UNITS LOST TAB FROM THAT GAME
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1709
On March 25 2012 02:34 Jotoco wrote:
GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My ears are bleeding! Why do the commercials sound about 9999999 times louder than the games?!?!?!??!?!?!

It just makes me mute everything and NOT WATCH THE COMMERCIALS.


TIP FOR MLG: You do want me to watch your commercials.


I pause it completely so I don't have to watch the commercials. They don't deserve it when they are completely "audio retarded"
Shackadeemus
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland247 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1710
On March 25 2012 02:34 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Now it's really easy to understand why Idra thinks ZvP is impossible for Zerg... I don't even like him and that was still depressing to watch.

lol it's actually the other way around if zerg is played correctly. Stephano even says zerg is stronger vs Protoss. And he 3-0'd JYP on his stream too
Pirate-bird ftw.
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1711
On March 25 2012 02:35 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Someone in this thread said that IdrA should play Protoss. This is very true. There would be less need of strategical thinking, because Protoss in somewhat limited in this direction compared to Zerg. IdrA's problem is that he cannot grasp the deeper sense for the way how Zerg works. Also his good macro would make him a scary Protoss player.

HA I said it! he should play protoss. can you imagine a protoss Idra? oh lord...
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1712
hmm im lagging like crazy
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#1713
On March 25 2012 02:35 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Idra should just DL stephano reps, and copy/paste strategy.


Stephano's skill does not come from great builds, but from great reads on his opponent and his ability to be as greedy as possible without dying.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1714
On March 25 2012 02:35 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Someone in this thread said that IdrA should play Protoss. This is very true. There would be less need of strategical thinking, because Protoss in somewhat limited in this direction compared to Zerg. IdrA's problem is that he cannot grasp the deeper sense for the way how Zerg works. Also his good macro would make him a scary Protoss player.


I think IdrA should go back to his BW Terran roots.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
drbrown
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden442 Posts
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1715
On March 25 2012 02:34 Type|NarutO wrote:
I really don't think IdrA deserves the bashing he gets... :x Obviously he made wrong calls here, but he's trying his best. Its not like he's saying HERP DERP MUTALISK LETS ROLLLLLLLLL when he knows he has a better option. He thought this was a good option to keep JYP defensive, and it didn't work out so well.

Hopefully he can come back.


When he attacked JYPs third he could've forced a cancel at the expense of 10-15 roaches instead of killing a stalker at the expense of 10-15 roaches.

Do that, tech to infestors in the meantime and you have roach/infestor off 3/4 bases vs blink stalkers off two.

What does he do? Halfassed attacks, slacks heavily on upgrades and goes for mutalisks AFTER JYP has well established his third and is comfortable defending using his allready upgrades blink stalker ball.
I'm probably being ironic
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 17:38:09
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1716
On March 25 2012 02:33 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:31 oogieogie wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:30 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:29 voy wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:27 Megabuster123 wrote:
DRG goes Muta against Blink stalker all the time...>_>

People like to rip on Idra for no reason..



but IdrA did not win GSL Code S. he is like master player for DRG, sorry.

People are ripping on the strategy.. I'm not saying Idra is even remotely comparable to DRG. Even Idra says that DRG is unbelievable.

But the muta build is fine even when the protoss is going mass blink stalker...>_>

no its not..why go mutas when the P already decided to go for blink/high stalker count instead of going infestors? That isn't even mentioning idras muta control.

You're not supposed to be engaging with the muta anyway, and going muta on big maps means he can take more bases and get a bigger eco while the toss is contained. Then when the protoss maxes on blink stalker you can grind the stalkers away with upgraded muta ling...>_>

Just because Idra did it shittily doesn't mean it's not a viable strategy.

The point is JYP went 7 gate mass blink stalkers with +3 weapons > idra decides its a good time to go mutas. I mean cmon I know mutas are good vs protoss n all, but usually i see it where mutas come out before blink n can snipe buildings or can delay 3rd/templar which none of that happened with idra. I mean hell I didn't even see a contain come out from idras mutas.

infestors would have been way better with idras huge roach army.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1717
On March 25 2012 02:35 TrevaH wrote:
DOnt know why your saying Idra is over rated he's been proven to be top notch plenty, no one will try and tell you Idra is good at PvZ though almost all of his worst blunders and gameplay are in PvZ he's literally scared of Protoss


Yes, his records of 2012 reflects on his top-notchness.
Jaedong & Faker
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 17:39:39
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1718
On March 25 2012 02:35 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:34 SoulOnIce wrote:
idra looks pretty frustrated

Of course he will be, who won't be pissed after defending a 7 gate and still losing.


Well if I hold a 1-1-1 push as a Protoss player, then decide to mass Immortals when my opponent is massing Marines I deserve to lose too. If he had gone for Roach/Infestor, he could have denied JYP's third, and then gotten a Hive and built Broods and won the game.

But he went for Mutalisks when JYP already had a ton of +2 Blink Stalkers (and +3 came soon after). I'm a huge IdrA fan, but his decision making was awful.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 17:37:45
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1719
On March 25 2012 02:35 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:34 SoulOnIce wrote:
idra looks pretty frustrated

Of course he will be, who won't be pissed after defending a 7 gate and still losing.

Defending a 7gate doesn't mean you automatically win. It's not really all-in, you're not behind in infrastructure or tech (blink stalkers and good upgrades), and you force Z to cut economy a fair amount. Obviously if you lose all your units, you lose, but I see it more as an extremely aggressive map control build that can also be fully committed to.

That said, IdrA was in amazing position after killing a lot of stalkers and should have won :<
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
March 24 2012 17:37 GMT
#1720
On March 25 2012 02:34 Solo Terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 02:33 0ne wrote:
Well played by IdrA. JYP just a little bit too good

Well played? What game we're you watching?

The game were IdrA defended JYP's timming attack and then JYP cameback with great blink control.

Is it only allowed to bash IdrA's play all the time in this threads?
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