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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8021
On March 25 2012 10:13 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:11 Desiato wrote:
I don't ever get the impression when Idra plays that he's doing anymore than executing build orders and hoping his opponant doesn't do anything tricky.

This. I feel as zergs, you really got to be flexible and be able to adjust yourself to your opponents game play. Idra doesn't do that. He basically does a build and wants HIS opponent to play how he play, which is not what zerg is.I don't know, I really feel idra screwed up being zerg in sc2. In broodwar, he had this style of turtling in his base till 200/200 and pushing out. Which is like how the current protoss is, he should switch to protoss.


couldn't have said it better myself. he seems too greedy to even willing to sacrifice couple of lings to gain xel naga tower vision. as a zerg you need to be on top of your scouting unless you are as good as DRG but even he loses to "surprises" here and there (Genius' 2 base blink stalker all in during GSL final was a good one.....actually I take it back DRG was on top of scouting in that game it was just Genius was so good at denying scout and feeding DRG the wrong info....a true evil Genius!)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8022
Team kills are never fun for the players.

I much rather face them in the finals.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8023
On March 25 2012 10:14 JJH777 wrote:
There is a very strong possibility that top 20 will be 18 Koreans and Naniwa + Huk. Only other non-korean that is the favorite to get through to that point is Ret and he will have to beat the winner of Golden/Rain so even that isn't too likely.

Ret and Haypro are in the top20 already.
TrevaH
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada122 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8024
On March 25 2012 10:15 Ireniicus wrote:
Koreans rock at SC2...however it is a pretty dark weekend so far for the Foreigners. heres me praying that with Stephano out Huk, Naniwa or Ret can make a very deep run. Sadly though my heart wants this my head tells me Korea will completely dominate again on Sunday


BUT BUT

The Banjooooooooo
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8025
On March 25 2012 10:11 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:08 Femari wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:07 Adreme wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 Femari wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:03 GwSC wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 SickControl wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:01 Adreme wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:00 plasemeious wrote:
On March 25 2012 09:56 wo1fwood wrote:
ok, the crowd just blew up, what just happened?

It's the halo crowd


Basically the greatest halo game ever just happend so they went insane.


In Reach? I find that hard to believe.


Same here >_>
Still hope Halo does well this MLG though, not really a fan but would be sad to see it die

Yeah.

But it was a pretty sick game I'm not gonna lie. I stopped watching Halo a while ago (Reach is terrible) but well when you're down 49-45 and suddenly you kill the entire team to tie it at 49-49, the crowd goes insane. Hasn't been a game that good since early H3.


Well it was also the biggest team in Halo against a team people have been hyping to win this event putting on 5 close games so at the end the crowd was going to go nuts.

That too, Instinct has a ton of fans. But I think the crowd would've gone nuts regardless of it being Instinct or not.

Haven't watched Halo in a while (yeah Reach does suck) but that sounds insane. Especially been disconnected to it cause I haven't really paid attention since the H3 days. Still a big fan of pistola though (have been since before he broke out with TD in H3). Hope he does well. If Reach dies after this MLG season I hope they'll pick up Halo 4 anyway, from what I've heard from my friends in the scene 343 has done good things with Reach (allowing removal of bloom, etc.) so I think they could do an even better job with it than Bungie.


I used to watch and play A LOT of Halo back when it was good (aka Halo 1 / 2). I'm pretty sure I can still BxR pretty well if I went back to H2 :p I played H3 quite a bit as well, but it was never as good as the predecessors. Didn't even bother to get reach. Between AoK / Age 3 & Halo 2...I really didn't play any other games. If anyone needs a good analogy think of Halo 1 as BW and Halo 2 as almost BWish and H3 and Reach as being worse than SC2. So many good memories with Halo 2.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8026
On March 25 2012 10:15 LikeAG6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:12 mememolly wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:10 sirreginold wrote:
Idra is playing high masters-grandmaster type players when he plays at diamond level it seems. I know he can play better than this but so far he's proving that incorrect.


he seemed to just give up against polt, no cancel on hatch no transfuses when he could have etc, probably needs to do an EG ad or something and can't be late


I like how you imply he intentionally let that hatch die without a cancel, you do realise at the same time his main was getting dropped?

People are so quick to judge IdrA, because he's IdrA. He lost 0-2 to Polt, it's fucking Polt, this guy is a TOP Code S player and a super tournament winner, but here's something you'll understand: 'Polt beats Stephano more often than Stephano beats him'

Lag probably frustrated IdrA so much that he mis-micro'd and lost all of his queens, IdrA was also super unlucky to see the marines that made a little timing with his ling run-by into natural.



Wait, Polt beats IdrA and suddenly he's TOP CODE S SUPER TOURNAMENT WINNER again? I thought he was just a Code B scrub who had to be welfared into Code S because his TvZ sucked so much...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26799 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8027
On March 25 2012 10:15 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:12 TXN wrote:
Why does Huk ALWAYS have the easiest group ?


Its why LuK is a good nickname for him, easiest groups and best coin-flips.


Yeah, getting easy groups and coin-flipping is what Huk's all about. He has no actual ability in the same and was able to remain in Code S for a long time, win foreign tournaments and all that by just being lucky.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8028
TEEEEEEE ESSSSS ELLLLLLLLL..... polt.
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8029
On March 25 2012 10:16 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:12 XiGua wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:10 mememolly wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:09 Serpico wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:08 Mouzone wrote:
Idra is just not good enough to compete with the koreans.

...except the one he beat?


he means the good ones

But Inori beat Stephano. Therefore IdrA > Inori > Stephano => IdrA > Stephano. It's pure mathematics, man.

IDRA BEST AMERICAN ZERG!!


well, he very well might be, mainly since there are no really really good american zergs currently... Do people really think stephano is American btw or is this some kind of well spread trolling :p ive seen American flags before his name aswell as alot of people hinting at him being American.

Hes french btw ;D.

Sheth is arguably playing better than IdrA lately since IdrA has had a pretty poor 2012 so far
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8030
On March 25 2012 10:15 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:14 eYeball wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:12 DystopiaX wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:11 eYeball wrote:
It always amazes me when ppl get suprised how good Koreans are :D

People seem to forget that being a top foreigner (not that IdrA has been one lately as his record shows) still means you're a lot worse than a top Korean...dunno why but people have been forgetting that gap as of late.


Indeed, I think this is a good way to remind those people of how long way foreigners still have infront of them before they can compete against them!

They've been competing against them for a while now.


And losing, it's just a few of the foreigners that seem to be able to compete against them reguarly.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8031
On March 25 2012 10:14 I_like_hydras wrote:
17 koreans-15 foreigners top 32,not bad


yeah but all foreigners come from pool and most are in the lower brackets. big chance there will be only 2 foreigners in the top 16 and none in the top 8.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8032
On March 25 2012 10:16 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:12 XiGua wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:10 mememolly wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:09 Serpico wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:08 Mouzone wrote:
Idra is just not good enough to compete with the koreans.

...except the one he beat?


he means the good ones

But Inori beat Stephano. Therefore IdrA > Inori > Stephano => IdrA > Stephano. It's pure mathematics, man.

IDRA BEST AMERICAN ZERG!!


well, he very well might be, mainly since there are no really really good american zergs currently... Do people really think stephano is American btw or is this some kind of well spread trolling :p ive seen American flags before his name aswell as alot of people hinting at him being American.

Hes french btw ;D.


stephano is french, pretty sure
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8033
So much negativity about IdrA as always. He beat Inori, which is a good enough result. He's not really expected to beat Polt and JYP.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8034
On March 25 2012 10:13 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:11 Desiato wrote:
I don't ever get the impression when Idra plays that he's doing anymore than executing build orders and hoping his opponant doesn't do anything tricky.

This. I feel as zergs, you really got to be flexible and be able to adjust yourself to your opponents game play. Idra doesn't do that. He basically does a build and wants HIS opponent to play how he play, which is not what zerg is.I don't know, I really feel idra screwed up being zerg in sc2. In broodwar, he had this style of turtling in his base till 200/200 and pushing out. Which is like how the current protoss is, he should switch to protoss.

He does adapt and when you see him cast, you actually get to see how much he understands the game. It's his control and his unwillingness to carry out his advantage by making units instead of economy that consistently puts him in bad position.



"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8035
Golden, Select, Puma, Polt -> the four korean horsemen that will mow down every foreigner in the lowerbracket until they hit their own countrymen.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8036
Just woke up, holy crap Sheth beat Polt? Sad to see him gone now. D:

And shit yeah, mah boy CrazyMovinG. <3 Gogogo!
Long live the King of Wings
murtas
Profile Joined December 2010
Portugal249 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8037
no way there will gona be a foreigner in top8, in fact i dont expect any more foreigner win vs koreans on sunday.
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8038
Uh oh interview time. 'What would you do to change the world?'
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8039
On March 25 2012 10:16 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 10:11 DystopiaX wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:08 Femari wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:07 Adreme wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:06 Femari wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:03 GwSC wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:02 SickControl wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:01 Adreme wrote:
On March 25 2012 10:00 plasemeious wrote:
On March 25 2012 09:56 wo1fwood wrote:
ok, the crowd just blew up, what just happened?

It's the halo crowd


Basically the greatest halo game ever just happend so they went insane.


In Reach? I find that hard to believe.


Same here >_>
Still hope Halo does well this MLG though, not really a fan but would be sad to see it die

Yeah.

But it was a pretty sick game I'm not gonna lie. I stopped watching Halo a while ago (Reach is terrible) but well when you're down 49-45 and suddenly you kill the entire team to tie it at 49-49, the crowd goes insane. Hasn't been a game that good since early H3.


Well it was also the biggest team in Halo against a team people have been hyping to win this event putting on 5 close games so at the end the crowd was going to go nuts.

That too, Instinct has a ton of fans. But I think the crowd would've gone nuts regardless of it being Instinct or not.

Haven't watched Halo in a while (yeah Reach does suck) but that sounds insane. Especially been disconnected to it cause I haven't really paid attention since the H3 days. Still a big fan of pistola though (have been since before he broke out with TD in H3). Hope he does well. If Reach dies after this MLG season I hope they'll pick up Halo 4 anyway, from what I've heard from my friends in the scene 343 has done good things with Reach (allowing removal of bloom, etc.) so I think they could do an even better job with it than Bungie.

Yeah I've been pulled away from SC2 for a bit to watch the series so that says something. But if the Halo crowd keeps this up it'll start rivaling the SC2 crowd in intensity and it won't be dropped until 4 comes out.

I just hope H4 is like the originals, not Reach.


What changed in Halo: Reach? I don't know anything about it, but I find it hard to believe a console FPS game can change all that much.
MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
March 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#8040
Polt's english so gosu
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