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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#6321
On March 25 2012 08:21 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
4 streams and most of the time we have one game streaming


as long as there is a game going on, you cant really complain

Well, there are a lot of games that aren't being streamed, I think that's what he's getting at.

I don't mind, there's always a game I want to view, so whether it's 1 game or 4 games at the same time, I don't mind.

Also, ThorZain has one of his SCVs on follow.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
March 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#6322
On March 25 2012 08:20 Juvant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:19 sitromit wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:59 SupLilSon wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:57 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:53 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:50 mango_destroyer wrote:
wow stephano.....his unbeatable aura has been wore off this tournament.


Only foreigners considered stephano unbeatable. There's a reason he normally avoids the tourneys with most koreans in it. It's easier for him and helps his rep. Beating grubby and whitera 15 times all day does not mean he has unbeatable zvp. Stephano is good and probably best foreigner, but he's no where close to the level of hype he's built himself by playing against inferior competition mostly.

This pretty much sums up my opinion on Stephano perfectly.... Guy is obviously good, but people hyping him up as best ZvP in the world, code S etc. is just silly..... the hardest opponent he has beaten for his championships is polt. Now Polt is good too, but he's just another GSL average Terran imo...


GSL average Terran who has won a GSL? How is a GSL winner just average?


He won it by playing exclusively TvTs, his TvZ has always been average.



You're thinking of MMA, who only had TVTs on his path to the finals.

Pretty sure Polt had a more varied ride to the finals.


Only non Terrans he beat were Losira, HuK and Alicia.
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
March 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#6323
On March 25 2012 08:22 Fionn wrote:
Idra already 1-0 up on Inori.

Here comes the Idra > Stephano threads.

That's my man Greg Fields
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
March 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#6324
who the f*ck is YaTa?
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6325
On March 25 2012 08:19 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 07:59 SupLilSon wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:57 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:53 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:50 mango_destroyer wrote:
wow stephano.....his unbeatable aura has been wore off this tournament.


Only foreigners considered stephano unbeatable. There's a reason he normally avoids the tourneys with most koreans in it. It's easier for him and helps his rep. Beating grubby and whitera 15 times all day does not mean he has unbeatable zvp. Stephano is good and probably best foreigner, but he's no where close to the level of hype he's built himself by playing against inferior competition mostly.

This pretty much sums up my opinion on Stephano perfectly.... Guy is obviously good, but people hyping him up as best ZvP in the world, code S etc. is just silly..... the hardest opponent he has beaten for his championships is polt. Now Polt is good too, but he's just another GSL average Terran imo...


GSL average Terran who has won a GSL? How is a GSL winner just average?


He won it by playing exclusively TvTs, his TvZ has always been average.


Hahaha you seem to have confused Polt with MMA genius.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6326
Sorry if its repost, how do I fix the blackout on the stream and not coming back live when they try to run commercials?
Sure.
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6327
JYP DRG next. HYPE HYPE HYPE.

Supposedly stellar ZvP vs. DRG v P. MOAR HYPE HYPE HYPE
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6328
On March 25 2012 08:23 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:20 Juvant wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:19 sitromit wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:59 SupLilSon wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:57 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:53 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:50 mango_destroyer wrote:
wow stephano.....his unbeatable aura has been wore off this tournament.


Only foreigners considered stephano unbeatable. There's a reason he normally avoids the tourneys with most koreans in it. It's easier for him and helps his rep. Beating grubby and whitera 15 times all day does not mean he has unbeatable zvp. Stephano is good and probably best foreigner, but he's no where close to the level of hype he's built himself by playing against inferior competition mostly.

This pretty much sums up my opinion on Stephano perfectly.... Guy is obviously good, but people hyping him up as best ZvP in the world, code S etc. is just silly..... the hardest opponent he has beaten for his championships is polt. Now Polt is good too, but he's just another GSL average Terran imo...


GSL average Terran who has won a GSL? How is a GSL winner just average?


He won it by playing exclusively TvTs, his TvZ has always been average.



You're thinking of MMA, who only had TVTs on his path to the finals.

Pretty sure Polt had a more varied ride to the finals.


Only non Terrans he beat were Losira, HuK and Alicia.

Only? Look at MMA's path in Super Tournament.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6329
IdrA beating Inori would be the ultimate mind**** right now lolol.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6330
On March 25 2012 08:23 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:23 StarStruck wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:22 vndods wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:22 Fionn wrote:
Idra already 1-0 up on Inori.

Here comes the Idra > Stephano threads.

USA > France?

jkjk



Don't you mean USA > USA? o-O

Idra no.1 French Zerg!



Everybody wins!

*claps*
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6331
On March 25 2012 08:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:22 leo23 wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:19 Dgtl wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:17 Aocowns wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:16 Noocta wrote:
Inori beat Stephano :o

What happend that Stephano lose in a PvZ ? Fatigue ?

Fatigue after beating 2 no names and Polt, after grinding shit tons of games every day for a year? I don't think so

While I agree with you mostly, you forget about flight and possibilty of jet lag. It is not as black and white as you make it out to be.


sorry he has been in the us for a while

He had to eat all that american food though. Didn't you see Hotbid's interview. The steaks are TWICE as big! and too much ketchup and mayonnaise


it's his fault... like hotbid said he didnt have to eat it all he could have saved for later
banelings
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6332
On March 25 2012 08:11 lannisport wrote:
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On March 25 2012 07:58 Sea_aeS wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:51 Azarkon wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:48 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:46 MooMu wrote:
On March 25 2012 07:43 TrevaH wrote:
Inori and Stephano 1-1 and Polt vs Morrow 1-1

2 fan fav's favored to win the whole thing facing elimination in round 8 of 9 lower bracket rounds before even reaching the Champ bracket let alone the end of Saturday


Favoured because they're fan favourites. In reality? This is no upset.


It is an upset. Everyone saying otherwise doesn't follow the scene. Put HuK into the open bracket and not into the group of luck and lets see if the all praised player can be top 6 as well. Its just blatant bullshit to call Stephano hyped now, because he lost 2 series in total, to Polt / Inori.


Stephano was over hyped prior to this MLG because Wheat and Scoots called for him to win the entirety of MLG from the OB. Even as a person who really enjoys Stephano's play and thinks that he is the best foreigner, there is no way that wasn't over-hyping. The moment they said it, I knew and feared that Stephano was going to get demolished, and really he did - he lost to the first good Terran he came across and the first good Protoss he came across. It's just two matches, and it is an upset. But that's because the hype train was running way too fast.


And i would like to know how was is frame of mind for this competition. I heard his manager saying "anyway there s no chance to win this when you come from the bracket" so dunno.... But i may be biased :D


Some people focus way too much on results.... Just look at Stephano vs Polt. Those were some of the best ZvT games since... Lonestar. Stephano has the best macro, gas timing, map awareness, drone timing and lategame control/management of any foreigner zerg and most zergs period. His zvt still needs to be tested against true S-Class terrans and his ZvP as well, but the seeds of greatness are there. He also has a penchant for sick comebacks.

When Leenock went on his legendary MLG run his opponents in the open bracket were incredibly easy compared to the open bracket today. How unlucky was it for Stephano to hit Polt, who's been practicing his PvStephno match up like crazy. He lost a close series and got metagamed. Stephano had a winning record coming into his match vs Inori. We don't know how those games went either, did either of them cheese? Did Inori win with a macro game? Were they razor close games or walk overs?

Lastly, bo3's don't determine skill level. If someone wins a Bo3 series you say they played better that series. Even if Stephano had WON this MLG and beat DRG on his way to his championship you would say that Stephano was on a hot run, and that even though he had beaten DRG it doesn't mean his zvz, zvt or zvp is better...


How was Leenock's run easier than Stephano. he took oz 2:0 on OB, drewbie, State and Gatored (back then he just came from IEM, beating DRG and Top) and then he went to beat MMA, MVP, HuK, Naniwa and DRG from Loser's Bracket to finals. That makes no sense!
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6333
Watching some Mortal Kombat between the SC2 games on the fighter stream :D it's awesome.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6334
On March 25 2012 08:24 Falconblade wrote:
JYP DRG next. HYPE HYPE HYPE.

Supposedly stellar ZvP vs. DRG v P. MOAR HYPE HYPE HYPE


But JYP is going to get smoked. o-O
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6335
On March 25 2012 08:24 HydraLF wrote:
Sorry if its repost, how do I fix the blackout on the stream and not coming back live when they try to run commercials?

F5 should work nicely.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6336
On March 25 2012 08:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:18 Fionn wrote:
On March 25 2012 08:15 ceaRshaf wrote:
DRG vs JYP so one sided


JYP beat DRG in Code A. DRG wouldn't even have gotten Code S if it wasn't for MLG due to JYP beating him with warp-in prism storms.

That was also back when DRG's weakest match up was ZvP though. It was also GSL August which was 7 months ago. That's like saying HerO beating DRG in the preliminaries for GSL July is still a relevant victory when looking at them now


Anyone catch Stephano's practice games vs JYP? They were really entertaining. I hope DRG crushes JYP the same way Stephano did. There aren't any other zergs I really like left besides Symbol and Sleep. I was really cheering on Morrow as well cause he ZvT (and TvZ) is so sick, too bad he lost.
iloveAthene
Profile Joined June 2011
186 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6337
im in love
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
March 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#6338
the voice of an angel O_O
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 24 2012 23:25 GMT
#6339
On March 25 2012 08:17 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 08:16 Noocta wrote:
Inori beat Stephano :o

What happend that Stephano lose in a PvZ ? Fatigue ?



maybe inori is better, just a guess


Hey, don't say that like I'm some kind of stupid fanboy.
I'm just wondering because Stephano going out of a tournament with a PvZ is unusual.
It's not me who opened a discussion on TL on how to beat Stephano in this match up.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zerothegreat
Profile Joined September 2010
United States787 Posts
March 24 2012 23:25 GMT
#6340
Wow! She is hott :D
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