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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3921
On March 25 2012 05:05 chobopeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:03 hifriend wrote:
what's happening with nani vs JYP? liquipedia has been saying 1-0 for nani for ages


follow @mlgsc2scores, we are updating very quickly over there.

yeah nice constant updates, haven't missed a beat
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3922
On March 25 2012 05:05 muzzy wrote:
What's with these casters being so oblivious to relative army strengths? On multiple occasions in HuK vs Heart they're calling HuK's force superior, when it was so painfully obvious that Heart's high marine count would mop up the slow zealots with ease.

Also, HuK handled those banshees horribly. Heart played well, but honestly HuK played very disappointingly. Looks like we can cross one more foreigner off our lists as viable... Hope he can turn it around, but he's looking very weak lately.



Yea especially with that last engage

THey were like OOH THE TANKS ARE DEAD HUKS GONNA STEAMROLL

I was -.-
Those marines alone were enough to take on huks army
Mass gateway immo vs 40 marines = LOL
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
Zheega
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia180 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3923
On March 25 2012 05:04 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:01 Serpico wrote:
Protoss love to bitch when their proxy shenanigans get stuffed.


It get stuffed or HuK killed like majority of Heart's army for nothing with it, but still couldn't get a win. Another Heart blunder was with siege tanks with his final attack, still works out.

Heart didn't make the mistake of making a command center
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3924
If you cant afford getting a colosus against 1/1/1 then how do you win against it if terran actually is not screwing up?

This seems like an unwinnable position for protoss and just extremly in favor of terran in a huge number of games.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3925
On March 25 2012 05:04 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:03 mememolly wrote:
On March 25 2012 05:02 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
On March 25 2012 05:00 mango_destroyer wrote:
hahaha people salty about 1-1-1 after Huk tried to 4 gate


He tried to 4 gate once out of 3 games, heart 1/1/1'd twice in 3 games.


huk does the same 2 base all in every pvz so it is only a taste of his own medicine


Ya have these people ever seen HuK PvZ lol


Huk is an extremely cheesy player in general. That's fine, the world needs guys like Huk, Inca, Rain and TheBest to keep greedy players like Idra and Ret in check but it's fucking hilarious that people whine about Huk getting cheesed when no high level player cheeses as much as Huk, that guy's go to builds are DT rush, 2 base gateway all in's and 4 gating.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3926
On March 25 2012 05:02 SkelA wrote:
Is that imposible to go for colosus against 1/1/1? Just asking not a SC2 player.


No huk just played really poorly. He had a successful rush and contain and then did nothing with it at all. he could have done multiple things but instead he expanded as terran pushed out (instead of way earlier) so he was at a big disadvantage. he then lost units to cloaked banshees because his observer wasnt in the right spot. he engaged really poorly and then had no answer to "alot" of marines.

basicly it was poor play that lost him the game, not that heart was amazing but huk did not take any of the information he was given and put it to good use.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
March 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#3927
On March 25 2012 05:04 Disengaged wrote:
That Frodan guy didn't even watch the NASTL finals. Thorzain didn't even win a game and hes saying it was a VERY close series. . . . . since when is going 0-3 a close series


i hate when casters talk just for the sake of talking when they really don't know shit all of what they are talking about
savior did nothing wrong
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3928
On March 25 2012 05:05 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:04 tree.hugger wrote:
What on earth was HuK doing there? Worst build choice imaginable; my grandmother could figure out that Heart would 1/1/1. JP and Simpson were so excited to see a 4 gate from HuK, but they apparently forgot that the four gate is one of the worst possible builds you could do against a 1/1/1. Maybe only triple nexus is sillier. From the opening builds, there was no way Heart could lose that.


True but HuK getting 8 free marines = should have won
No pylon to warp behind sup wall was baffling

If sc2 is all about a game where when a player gets a advantage he should win no matter what then it would suck as a spectator game. Having a advantage is one thing, KEEPING and pushing your advantage is another thing. Huk didn't do that. Basically he fucked up.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3929
On March 25 2012 05:04 JJH777 wrote:
How did Sheth beat Polt?

Read here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323273
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2973 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3930
Tumba is a good caster, his voice goes smoothly and he does overall a great job. Frodan on the otherhand, sounds like he's chewing gum or something when talking, or maybe that's just how he talks, idk.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3931
When you're not as good as MKP at micro - fall back to 1-1-1 vs. Protoss.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3932
On March 25 2012 05:05 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:04 nvs. wrote:
On March 25 2012 05:03 mememolly wrote:
On March 25 2012 05:02 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
On March 25 2012 05:00 mango_destroyer wrote:
hahaha people salty about 1-1-1 after Huk tried to 4 gate


He tried to 4 gate once out of 3 games, heart 1/1/1'd twice in 3 games.


huk does the same 2 base all in every pvz so it is only a taste of his own medicine


Ya have these people ever seen HuK PvZ lol

Yesterdays thread was nothing but 'LOL PROTOSS 2 BASE ALL IN', so I think so :p

Haha yeah, support him when he loses, bash him when he wins, standard.
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3933
I think the target fireing on tanks with all immortals was a misstake. There was 2 immortals on the right side not shooting at anything for a long time, trying to get to the tanks in the back.

Anyways, it supprises me that a player like Heart , who people know are exteamly cheesy, still manages to pull it off so often.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3934
On March 25 2012 05:05 uSnAmplified wrote:
Pretty bad BO loss, he should have known heart would 1-1-1 all in or do some level of one base aggression.


He 4gated because he knew Heart would 111. He probably thinks it has a better shot than standard play.

Heck he even got a robo while he was doing it. Of course he knew.
Revolutionist fan
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3935
On March 25 2012 05:05 SomniGiggles wrote:
1-1-1 first game, gets dominated second game by huk macro. His obvious thought was, oh I best 1-1-1 again I can win with that. HuK knew that (as did anyone who is a sc player and was watching it) so tried to end it quickly with 4gate. Pretty sad series really.


Nah, 4 gate is NOT good against 1-1-1. Huk probably just assumed that Heart wouldn't 1-1-1 again
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3936
On March 25 2012 05:07 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:05 sAfuRos wrote:
On March 25 2012 05:04 tree.hugger wrote:
What on earth was HuK doing there? Worst build choice imaginable; my grandmother could figure out that Heart would 1/1/1. JP and Simpson were so excited to see a 4 gate from HuK, but they apparently forgot that the four gate is one of the worst possible builds you could do against a 1/1/1. Maybe only triple nexus is sillier. From the opening builds, there was no way Heart could lose that.


True but HuK getting 8 free marines = should have won
No pylon to warp behind sup wall was baffling

If sc2 is all about a game where when a player gets a advantage he should win no matter what then it would suck as a spectator game. Having a advantage is one thing, KEEPING and pushing your advantage is another thing. Huk didn't do that. Basically he fucked up.

Let's not get into semantics here...
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3937
On March 25 2012 05:06 SkelA wrote:
If you cant afford getting a colosus against 1/1/1 then how do you win against it if terran actually is not screwing up?

This seems like an unwinnable position for protoss and just extremly in favor of terran in a huge number of games.


Not at all. 1-1-1 rarely works anymore. Huk completely botched it.
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3938
What happnd between NaniWa and JYP?
Zheega
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia180 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3939
On March 25 2012 05:06 SkelA wrote:
If you cant afford getting a colosus against 1/1/1 then how do you win against it if terran actually is not screwing up?

This seems like an unwinnable position for protoss and just extremly in favor of terran in a huge number of games.

If he scouts you going Collossus, then he just focuses more on banshees and ravens and kills Protoss. Collossus is only good if not scouted agains a 1-1-1.
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
March 24 2012 20:07 GMT
#3940
I would have fended off that 1-1-1 with two fingers up my nose npnp
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