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Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
March 13 2012 11:19 GMT
#661
On March 13 2012 20:17 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 20:14 Bwaaaa wrote:
On March 13 2012 20:13 pdd wrote:
Ace was sitting on 1.2k gas for so long. Why didn't he get Templar? Now people are gonna whine about Mutas.

Even archons would have been great vs that comp.


I think he had enough gas for like 10 archons. They would ve raped that comp easily.


Ace was consistently supply blocked and low on Gateway cooldowns. He lost a lot of pylons and gateways to the Muta/Bane attacks and did not keep up with replacing them. When his Gateways were up he warped in Stalker/Sentry.
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
March 13 2012 11:19 GMT
#662
On March 13 2012 20:17 opterown wrote:
Leenock wins, but I have a feeling his ZvP is too wasteful. Too much like his ZvT ling/baneling/muta.
He needs to learn how to roach vP and lingfestor vs T, right now he's pretty easy to prepare for


This lingbling muta style was invented by morrow about half a year ago, and it has been the new pro trend in korea for a bit less than a month now. Dimaga, MC and morrow were talking about it briefly during IEM.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 13 2012 11:20 GMT
#663
Tbh I'm disappointed Leenock didn't go for Cybernetics Core when he pushed some of his forces into Ace's main. More zergs should kill that building first, to get rid of Stalker production. Would've saved him many units, with limited ranged units from P.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 13 2012 11:20 GMT
#664
On March 13 2012 20:17 Teoita wrote:
Ace probably had that feeling of OHSHITOOHSHIT NEED UNITS NOW NEED UNITS NOW ILL GET TEMPLAR LATER and just never had a chance. When you warp in templar you have to wait a while before you can use them, and if you are under that much pressure you feel like you need every little bit of resources into units that can fight, right now.

At least those are my 2 cents.

I'm thinking this too. Then again, a pro gamer should be able to keep calm under any stressful situation.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
borny
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China481 Posts
March 13 2012 11:20 GMT
#665
Goddamnit. It starts to bother me how much I care about the Startale players... Just got back to work and sees Ace down 0-3 ... At least we got Squirtle through yesterday
Naniwa . July . Morrow . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go STARTALE!
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 11:25:16
March 13 2012 11:21 GMT
#666
On March 13 2012 20:17 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 20:14 Bwaaaa wrote:
On March 13 2012 20:13 pdd wrote:
Ace was sitting on 1.2k gas for so long. Why didn't he get Templar? Now people are gonna whine about Mutas.

Even archons would have been great vs that comp.


I think he had enough gas for like 10 archons. They would ve raped that comp easily.

10archons cost 20*150 = 3000gas (+1000min) and 20 warp-ins, he never had 3000gas and couldn't spare the warp-in. His defense was razor-thin. If he used his gateways on templars he would lose at least one base and many probes and stalkers before being able to use them at which point leenock could just back off a bit. In addition leenock was all over. Many templars and archons would be sniped way before they finished merging (or building energy for storm).
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
March 13 2012 11:21 GMT
#667
On March 13 2012 20:16 Smurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 20:12 gideel wrote:
leenocktopus showing exactly the difference between a code S level player and a code b/a level player


I strongly agree with your thoughts.

Ace simply did not have the multitasking and macro to compete with Leenock in that match. Ace was frequently supply blocked and floating 1000/1000. Ace couldn't keep up with replacing Gateways, Pylons and warping in new units while microing his units.

I must admit that Leenock kept the pressure on with Muta banes and there was tons of micro and decisions to do. I find it incredibly difficult and I find it incomprehensible that humans are capable of actually doing everything required to defend that. Yet, Code S players somehow find a way to keep up with all of those things. Ace is not on par with some others.

The somewhat bad start Ace took put Leenock into a strong position for this constant harassment. Even being a code S class player wouldn't save a player when he happens to be in such a situation. I don't think it is Ace being outmicroed, I really found his micro pretty decent actually. It's more about some questionable decisions for his opening and then the fact that he didn't make HTs/archons.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 11:22:25
March 13 2012 11:21 GMT
#668
If Sniper loses this, he's out, I believe. He'll end up 1-2 with the possibility of 2-2, but he will have lost to InCa and GanZi (who have yet to versus, so one of them ends up with 2 wins), so he won't advance at all.

If Sniper loses, Leenock is guaranteed through...
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Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
March 13 2012 11:22 GMT
#669
On March 13 2012 20:20 borny wrote:
Goddamnit. It starts to bother me how much I care about the Startale players... Just got back to work and sees Ace down 0-3 ... At least we got Squirtle through yesterday


I feel you. Startale <3
Bomber || Thorzain || Startale >< No gods, no masters.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 13 2012 11:22 GMT
#670
What's that thing GanZi's fondling? Something he'll be using in his victory celebration?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 13 2012 11:23 GMT
#671
Leenock 3-0
Ganzi 1-1
Inca 1-1
Sniper 1-1
Ace 0-3

Pretty tight for 2nd place, but we all know Inca got this
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Ncutable
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania99 Posts
March 13 2012 11:23 GMT
#672
Thanks for confirmation on the Leenock-in-Code-S-already matter. Seems like I have to look at least one more game to be sure my favorite cuddle-Zerg secured his spot before I have to do some work.
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
March 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#673
wasn't a maka rax a 2nd offrax?
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
March 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#674
Moletrap, that's not a makarax. That's actually the correct position to put your rax so they cant put your overlord in that derp ledge when you want to 1rax FE, and see gas timings.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#675
On March 13 2012 20:20 borny wrote:
Goddamnit. It starts to bother me how much I care about the Startale players... Just got back to work and sees Ace down 0-3 ... At least we got Squirtle through yesterday


I feel the exact same way but for FXO players :/ it's annoying sometimes
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#676
(Z)MVPSniper v (T)SlayerS_GanZi


ESV ClouD Kingdom

5.00
(Z)MVPSniper spawning as the blue terran in the top right position.
(T)SlayerS_GanZi spawning as the red zerg in the bottom left position.

GanZi hiding his initial barracks behind the mineral line in his natural.
Sniper goes for a Hatchery on 15.

Sniper scouts the Barracks.
Spawning Pool and gas follows for Sniper on 16.

GanZi gets his Command Center up on 19.
Two marines crossing the map looking for overlords.

GanZi takes both of his geysers in the main and places down a bunker at his natural.
Metabolic Boost started for Sniper.

Factory placed down at the wall to the main of GanZi, reactor on the barracks. Hellions coming in.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
March 13 2012 11:28 GMT
#677
On March 13 2012 20:20 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 20:17 Teoita wrote:
Ace probably had that feeling of OHSHITOOHSHIT NEED UNITS NOW NEED UNITS NOW ILL GET TEMPLAR LATER and just never had a chance. When you warp in templar you have to wait a while before you can use them, and if you are under that much pressure you feel like you need every little bit of resources into units that can fight, right now.

At least those are my 2 cents.

I'm thinking this too. Then again, a pro gamer should be able to keep calm under any stressful situation.

Same. But yet, he needs to protect them from the HTs. And Leenock being in the situation he was in, he had the choice to just constantly trade a few mutas for these HTs.
But well yes, he could still have build some archons.
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
March 13 2012 11:28 GMT
#678
On March 13 2012 20:26 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 20:20 borny wrote:
Goddamnit. It starts to bother me how much I care about the Startale players... Just got back to work and sees Ace down 0-3 ... At least we got Squirtle through yesterday


I feel the exact same way but for FXO players :/ it's annoying sometimes


Yeah I'm in the same boat. Todays been pretty good though
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 13 2012 11:30 GMT
#679
On March 13 2012 20:26 KristofferAG wrote:
(Z)MVPSniper v (T)SlayerS_GanZi


ESV ClouD Kingdom

5.00
(Z)MVPSniper spawning as the blue terran in the top right position.
(T)SlayerS_GanZi spawning as the red zerg in the bottom left position.

GanZi hiding his initial barracks behind the mineral line in his natural.
Sniper goes for a Hatchery on 15.

Sniper scouts the Barracks.
Spawning Pool and gas follows for Sniper on 16.

GanZi gets his Command Center up on 19.
Two marines crossing the map looking for overlords.

GanZi takes both of his geysers in the main and places down a bunker at his natural.
Metabolic Boost started for Sniper.

Factory placed down at the wall to the main of GanZi, reactor on the barracks. Hellions coming in.

10.00
The factory and barracks swap and Hellion production starts as GanZi starts a third CC.
Sniper goes for a macro Hatchery instead of a third base.

Tech lab added on the Barracks for GanZi. Rax lifts off and once again switches back with the Factory.
Sniper goes for Lair while taking the 3 remaining geysers. Evolution Chamber added on.

Siege tech and Engineering Bay coming in for GanZi. 1/1 is started.
Baneling Nest placed down for Sniper.

Two more barracks added on for GanZi as he takes his third.
Spire and +1 armor for Sniper started.

Starport and 2 more geysers taken for GanZi as he places down a Bunker at his third.
Sniper finally taking his own third.

Armory gone up for GanZi, stim pak and combat shields started.
7 mutas in production for Sniper as the third finishes up. Creep covers half the map!



@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
March 13 2012 11:30 GMT
#680
On March 13 2012 20:17 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 20:16 samurai80 wrote:
On March 13 2012 20:12 gideel wrote:
leenocktopus showing exactly the difference between a code S level player and a code b/a level player

Ace's micro was really good so definitely not B level on this game imo.


I just dont think that strat actually works well vs muta aggression on the maps he got.

Well I was talking about the micro. His strat was not the best but again I would say he's a decent code A player imo, and his multitask not bad at all.
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