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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
March 09 2012 14:15 GMT
#801
MMA and DRG are even on games both internationally and in korea. I wouldn't look too much into the first gstl ace match since they were not fighting on even grounds. MVP team back then was still weak, and DRG has to play multiple matches with map disadvantages. MMA indeed has a slight edge due to the blizzard cup finals, though it came down to only 1 game difference. Well finals is still finals i guess, people look at the champion and forget the runner-up.

Right now, MMA is more accomplished than DRG with more championship titles to his name. However, DRG did clinch back a bit of points with his current run. Blizzard cup runner-up, King of kongs, FXO invitational series, Winter-arena runner-up, came out ahead with toughest code s line-up ever seen, all these over a span of 3 mths. MMA also has a slightly weaker match-up compared to DRG.

It's too difficult to differentiate them who is the best. Let's just say they are top 2 in the world right now.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 09 2012 14:20 GMT
#802
On March 09 2012 23:15 babysimba wrote:
MMA and DRG are even on games both internationally and in korea. + Show Spoiler +
I wouldn't look too much into the first gstl ace match since they were not fighting on even grounds. MVP team back then was still weak, and DRG has to play multiple matches with map disadvantages. MMA indeed has a slight edge due to the blizzard cup finals, though it came down to only 1 game difference. Well finals is still finals i guess, people look at the champion and forget the runner-up.

Right now, MMA is more accomplished than DRG with more championship titles to his name. However, DRG did clinch back a bit of points with his current run. Blizzard cup runner-up, King of kongs, FXO invitational series, Winter-arena runner-up, came out ahead with toughest code s line-up ever seen, all these over a span of 3 mths. MMA also has a slightly weaker match-up compared to DRG.

It's too difficult to differentiate them who is the best. Let's just say they are top 2 in the world right now.



Great post.
I agree completely.
moo...for DRG
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 09 2012 14:29 GMT
#803
I find it funny that for a second there...DRG ACTUALLY allowed Luvsic to think that he had a chance....

AHAHAHAHA

DEE ARE GEE, why are you so evil!?
moo...for DRG
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:35:37
March 09 2012 14:34 GMT
#804
wrong thread.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
March 09 2012 14:37 GMT
#805
Good ole DRG
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:47:18
March 09 2012 14:46 GMT
#806
Eh, its a tough call between MMA and DRG, but I'm glad we can agree the IM era has ended. DRG is certainly on a hotter streak right now, but MMA has been producing results for a longer time. It's a tough call. Personally I favor MMA right now because he's been consistent for as long as he's been in code S, always making it to at least the RO8 whereas DRG up until recently was a major disappointment (in code S at least) or failing to qualify for code A.

Numerical rankings are kind of silly though, Tiers are more logical. If you look at Flexis' list, how far apart are Ganzi and Supernova really? The list puts them 4 ranks apart, which is a much larger sounding gap than the real gap between their skills. DRG and MMA are in their own tier right now. Players like Ganzi and Supernova are in the same tier too.

Just off the top of my head, I'm sure you could argue some people up and down this list. And it's only the 20 players Flexis listed:

Top Tier
MMA and DRG

High Tier
MVP, Nestea, MC, MKP

Mid-High
Leenock, Genius, Jijaki, aLive, GuMiHo, PartinG, Oz, Supernova, Puzzle, Ganzi

Mid
Sc, Fin, Curious, Taeja
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37084 Posts
March 09 2012 15:00 GMT
#807
On March 09 2012 22:17 TeMiL wrote:
why this event wasnt in the calendar?

? It was
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 09 2012 15:06 GMT
#808
mvp has to get to the finals and go to ipl4
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
March 09 2012 15:13 GMT
#809
Can NaDa play for MVP ?
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 09 2012 15:36 GMT
#810
colMVP for the win!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
March 09 2012 15:39 GMT
#811
Hero taking 2 games :D DRG cleaning it up :\
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
March 09 2012 15:58 GMT
#812
Where is ForGG?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 16:15:23
March 09 2012 16:14 GMT
#813
I'm really impressed by oGs, I would though they have been doing worse. 4-5 is an honorable feat (btw I fear MvP will be team DRG when protoss will not be as good in the metagame :D).
They would have need a MC to close the deal (a good old 2 base all-in that kills even the best zerg in the world), too bad they couldn't use him (because he's no longer in their team, and wasn't in korea anyway ).

And, seriously, Inca vs zerg what was TheWind thinking -_-
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 16:58:34
March 09 2012 16:52 GMT
#814
Hmm these results were unnecessarily close for MvP. No Genius, sC or TAiLS? I guess that shows how much faith they have in Dongraegu, who by the way is now a blistering 20-2 in the GSTL for his career.
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
March 09 2012 19:07 GMT
#815
What happen to Fin? Why wasn't he there for such an important team match?
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 20:23:24
March 09 2012 20:22 GMT
#816
The best player in the world does it again! It's a good thing drg skipped iem because MVP needs him for the vegas trip! Also, this frees up DRG to go to MLG columbus now as MVP advances to the ro4! Now hoping Prime wins tonight so MKP can also go to columbus cause if prime loses he'll most likely skip out on MLG to play in an elimination gstl match that weekend.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 20:29:47
March 09 2012 20:28 GMT
#817
Team DRG too strong.

That being said good showing by hero but it looks like MVP is finally starting to get some depth to it's line up.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 20:37:58
March 09 2012 20:37 GMT
#818
We were all saying how MVP's roster got a lot better...they don't even need DRG anymore.....
....boy how wrong we were.
DRG is their everything...

go teamDRG!
lol
moo...for DRG
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 09 2012 20:53 GMT
#819
Go teamDRG!

...even though Monster got that 3kill against STC and Inca
Yargh
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 21:47:22
March 09 2012 21:38 GMT
#820
On March 09 2012 23:46 Greggle wrote:
Eh, its a tough call between MMA and DRG, but I'm glad we can agree the IM era has ended. DRG is certainly on a hotter streak right now, but MMA has been producing results for a longer time. It's a tough call. Personally I favor MMA right now because he's been consistent for as long as he's been in code S, always making it to at least the RO8 whereas DRG up until recently was a major disappointment (in code S at least) or failing to qualify for code A.

Numerical rankings are kind of silly though, Tiers are more logical. If you look at Flexis' list, how far apart are Ganzi and Supernova really? The list puts them 4 ranks apart, which is a much larger sounding gap than the real gap between their skills. DRG and MMA are in their own tier right now. Players like Ganzi and Supernova are in the same tier too.

Just off the top of my head, I'm sure you could argue some people up and down this list. And it's only the 20 players Flexis listed:

Top Tier
MMA and DRG

High Tier
MVP, Nestea, MC, MKP

Mid-High
Leenock, Genius, Jijaki, aLive, GuMiHo, PartinG, Oz, Supernova, Puzzle, Ganzi

Mid
Sc, Fin, Curious, Taeja


Disagree on this.

I'd put it more like:

Top Tier
DRG, MKP, MMA

High Tier
MVP, Nestea, MC, HerO, Jjakji, Creator

Mid-High
Leenock, Genius, aLive, GuMiHo, PartinG, Oz, Supernova, Ganzi, Polt

Mid
Sc, Curious, Taeja, Puzzle, Symbol, Seal, Bomber

this is based on players' actual skill (so that includes team leagues and not just GSL)
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