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On March 07 2012 19:44 Jehct wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:39 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:34 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening.. There's actually nothing wrong with going Muta against pheonix openings, as long as it's only single stargate. I think post-patch it's actually a terrible move, especially if you let protoss get to 3base uncontested. Their natural tech decision on 3base is to go fleet beacon for mothership anyway; the 7 phoenix Feast had, plus range, can kill absurd numbers of muta. I feel like all you have to do is tech out of muta once you scout the fleet beacon. What are 15 pheonix's going to do against corrupter BL or roach infestor? Kill the corruptors and lift infestors? Phoenix are fucking amazing, and the investment into muta is a lot bigger than the investment into phoenix. Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:44 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 07 2012 19:41 Jyvblamo wrote:On March 07 2012 19:39 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:34 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening.. There's actually nothing wrong with going Muta against pheonix openings, as long as it's only single stargate. I think post-patch it's actually a terrible move, especially if you let protoss get to 3base uncontested. Their natural tech decision on 3base is to go fleet beacon for mothership anyway; the 7 phoenix Feast had, plus range, can kill absurd numbers of muta. I feel like all you have to do is tech out of muta once you scout the fleet beacon. What are 15 pheonix's going to do against corrupter BL or roach infestor? Protoss doesn't need to make nearly that many phoenixes. Feast could have stayed on 1 stargate and the +2 range would have been enough to prevent the mutalisks from flying into his main and wreaking havoc. Have you used this upgrade yet? it's so damn expensive to get and when Zerg scouts your fleet beacon they just tech switch. It's not as easy you claim. On 3base eco it's pretty negligible, especially since you want mothership anyway.
Are they? I'm pretty sure Phoenix are a bigger investment if you're trying to compete with Muta.
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On March 07 2012 19:46 smr wrote:
ahaha Mrbitter: It's not over yet...oh gg"
To be fair, it was idra.
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Idra has always had so much trouble with these kind of pushes from any race.
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Wow, Idra losing again to an immortal/sentry/stalker timing. His ZvP is so weak =/
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lol, how many units did feast lose? 4? 5? ^_^
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On March 07 2012 19:43 Swiv wrote:
Feast is endlessly greedy. Early roach speedlings would have killed him imo
Maybe he did a late re-scout with a probe? Or chrono zealot? Do you remember?
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On March 07 2012 19:46 m0ck wrote:
Idra can make the simplest of builds look invincible
It's a fricking strong build. Nestea and DRG complained about it.
Not "simplest" build at all
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Awww poor IdrA. The one time you dont think he is going to 2 base all in u xD Oh well zooom. 1-1. PLEASE Roach Ling All In!!!!!!!!!!!
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That exact same build rapes me every single time...>_>
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Sad to see Idra losing so simply.
Still hate FF though...
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I think it's safe to say Idra isn't even top 10 foreigner anymore. Even top 20 might be stretching it at this point.
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Really feel like an idra 6 pool would win it right here, but of course he won't do it 
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I know roaches are horribly supply inefficient and don't give a good indication of army size but I always lol when I see IdrA quit out when he's 10+ supply up
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On March 07 2012 19:46 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:44 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:39 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:34 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening.. There's actually nothing wrong with going Muta against pheonix openings, as long as it's only single stargate. I think post-patch it's actually a terrible move, especially if you let protoss get to 3base uncontested. Their natural tech decision on 3base is to go fleet beacon for mothership anyway; the 7 phoenix Feast had, plus range, can kill absurd numbers of muta. I feel like all you have to do is tech out of muta once you scout the fleet beacon. What are 15 pheonix's going to do against corrupter BL or roach infestor? Kill the corruptors and lift infestors? Phoenix are fucking amazing, and the investment into muta is a lot bigger than the investment into phoenix. On March 07 2012 19:44 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 07 2012 19:41 Jyvblamo wrote:On March 07 2012 19:39 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:34 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening.. There's actually nothing wrong with going Muta against pheonix openings, as long as it's only single stargate. I think post-patch it's actually a terrible move, especially if you let protoss get to 3base uncontested. Their natural tech decision on 3base is to go fleet beacon for mothership anyway; the 7 phoenix Feast had, plus range, can kill absurd numbers of muta. I feel like all you have to do is tech out of muta once you scout the fleet beacon. What are 15 pheonix's going to do against corrupter BL or roach infestor? Protoss doesn't need to make nearly that many phoenixes. Feast could have stayed on 1 stargate and the +2 range would have been enough to prevent the mutalisks from flying into his main and wreaking havoc. Have you used this upgrade yet? it's so damn expensive to get and when Zerg scouts your fleet beacon they just tech switch. It's not as easy you claim. On 3base eco it's pretty negligible, especially since you want mothership anyway. Are they? I'm pretty sure Phoenix are a bigger investment if you're trying to compete with Muta.
Not even slightly. You need literally 5-7 phoenix to negate muta with the range upgrade; their DPS is insane. Any stargate build opens with 4 phoenix anyway. The extra investment is tiny.
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On March 07 2012 19:46 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:44 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:39 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:34 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening.. There's actually nothing wrong with going Muta against pheonix openings, as long as it's only single stargate. I think post-patch it's actually a terrible move, especially if you let protoss get to 3base uncontested. Their natural tech decision on 3base is to go fleet beacon for mothership anyway; the 7 phoenix Feast had, plus range, can kill absurd numbers of muta. I feel like all you have to do is tech out of muta once you scout the fleet beacon. What are 15 pheonix's going to do against corrupter BL or roach infestor? Kill the corruptors and lift infestors? Phoenix are fucking amazing, and the investment into muta is a lot bigger than the investment into phoenix. On March 07 2012 19:44 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 07 2012 19:41 Jyvblamo wrote:On March 07 2012 19:39 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On March 07 2012 19:34 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening.. There's actually nothing wrong with going Muta against pheonix openings, as long as it's only single stargate. I think post-patch it's actually a terrible move, especially if you let protoss get to 3base uncontested. Their natural tech decision on 3base is to go fleet beacon for mothership anyway; the 7 phoenix Feast had, plus range, can kill absurd numbers of muta. I feel like all you have to do is tech out of muta once you scout the fleet beacon. What are 15 pheonix's going to do against corrupter BL or roach infestor? Protoss doesn't need to make nearly that many phoenixes. Feast could have stayed on 1 stargate and the +2 range would have been enough to prevent the mutalisks from flying into his main and wreaking havoc. Have you used this upgrade yet? it's so damn expensive to get and when Zerg scouts your fleet beacon they just tech switch. It's not as easy you claim. On 3base eco it's pretty negligible, especially since you want mothership anyway. Are they? I'm pretty sure Phoenix are a bigger investment if you're trying to compete with Muta.
Mutalisks hit ground units and do splash damage, Jehct. I sure hope they're a bigger investment.
Dolt.
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Who's betting on a 6 pool next game? :p
EDIT: Well not me! Ha!
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On March 07 2012 19:46 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:46 m0ck wrote:
Idra can make the simplest of builds look invincible It's a fricking strong build. Nestea and DRG complained about it. Not "simplest" build at all
it is simply, yet very strong
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Lol, Feast doing his weird lip thing again.
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Phoenix don't kill corruptors. Period. Just play with them in a real game or unit tester if you wish.
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Well, classic Protoss play, making immortel blindly hoping to not see hydralisks. Paid off this time.
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