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Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3081
On March 08 2012 01:35 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
What's up with Idra? o o;


What do you mean? Look at his map scores for 2012. Yea, he's pretty fucking bad.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3082
i missed all of the games today, can someone explain what went wrong with idra? bad play? early gg's? anything worthwhile? or was he just outplayed?


idra
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45762 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3083
lol Rotterdam always getting the girls.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3084
On March 08 2012 01:36 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:33 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
They keep saying Select can still advance..


We're just passing on what we're told! Don't kill the messenger!

Liquipedia is one click away!!!!
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3085
foreigners dissapointing once again! :/
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3086
On March 08 2012 01:36 Zzoram wrote:
Real ends up being the only Korean to not advance.

Feast is the foreigner hero of this tournament.


Well if your going to count Real might as well count Select since they are pretty much in the same boat (Korean by blood, Foreigner by training methods/skill)
IMNestea's biggest fan.
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3087
On March 08 2012 01:36 markz4 wrote:
Why is it so damn early? I missed the whole day again....


google for cebit and look at wich time they close the doors...
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#3088
Man, this must have been started early, already over for the day at 9:30am MST
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
March 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#3089
Rotti+Bitter Big Borther !! :D
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#3090
On March 08 2012 01:37 Flowjo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:35 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
What's up with Idra? o o;


What do you mean? Look at his map scores for 2012. Yea, he's pretty fucking bad.

I admit I haven't followed his path in 2012 very well, but I didn't expect him to perform like this :S
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
March 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#3091
On March 08 2012 01:36 Zzoram wrote:
Real ends up being the only Korean to not advance.

Feast is the foreigner hero of this tournament.


Yup. Feast is going to prevent an all korean top 8 at the very least.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#3092
On March 08 2012 01:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:36 MrBitter wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:33 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
They keep saying Select can still advance..


We're just passing on what we're told! Don't kill the messenger!

Liquipedia is one click away!!!!


Select is done....

Puma/Killer/Zenio
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
March 07 2012 16:39 GMT
#3093
On March 08 2012 01:37 Cereb wrote:
foreigners dissapointing once again! :/


That depends. I expected nothing so I can't see it as a disappointment
* Liquid'Hero * Liquid'TLO * oGsMC * oGsFin *
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 16:41:54
March 07 2012 16:39 GMT
#3094
On March 08 2012 01:28 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:26 Maghetti wrote:
Zenio is such a zvz monster with really deep knowledge of how to handle all sorts of situations. Not the korean dimaga would want his tournament life to rest on.


I dont agree with that I think his ZvZ is his worst matchup by fare. His multitasking seems very slow sometimes in the matchup.

Watch Stephano vs Zenio NASL and you can really see his flawes


wrong

zenio has insane multitasking and his zvz benefits quite a bit from it, not to mention he has very good micro


on a side note - awww yeah, eg.crybaby got rolled 1-4, i love it when that happens

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 07 2012 16:39 GMT
#3095
On March 08 2012 01:26 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:25 Bagration wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:24 Tsubbi wrote:
my god no matter how far foreigners get ahead they cant close it out vs the koreans this tourney


Dimaga wasn't really far ahead though. He took a risk by double expanding and it didn't pay off.


dimaga was miles ahead, MILES with quicker spire and better eco

also didn't kill the overlord in front of his nat that saw the drone transfer to the right expansion, lost his 3rd vs 6 roaches with 12 mutas on the map, just fell apart


How was Dimaga miles ahead? How does having a quick Spire give you a better eco? Zenio was ahead in Drones, because he delayed gas while Dimaga teched quickly. Zenio took his 3rd seconds after Dimaga did his, they both sniped each other's expos at the same time, and Dimaga was never able to benefit from the double-expo follow up, before Zenio took out his base again. Meanwhile, Zenio's tech was ahead, he had Infestor/Hydra against Mutas, and so were his upgrades.

Zenio played a very comfortable game and was never in danger the whole time.

Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
March 07 2012 16:39 GMT
#3096
On March 08 2012 01:37 crms wrote:
i missed all of the games today, can someone explain what went wrong with idra? bad play? early gg's? anything worthwhile? or was he just outplayed?


idra


All of his opponents pretty much outplayed him. Dude come on man, be realistic.... this is why I hate polls where Idra is in them -_- no one is ever realistic about his chances. I mean Idra fans keep brining up IEM Guanzhou (which honest to god had decent competition at best, elfi at finals) and they also bring providence.... he was top 8 when he lost 2 bo3's and won 1 rofl..
IMNestea's biggest fan.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
March 07 2012 16:40 GMT
#3097
On March 08 2012 01:37 Cereb wrote:
foreigners dissapointing once again! :/

I don't think it's disappointing. They consistently took maps off of the Koreans and in one group a non-Korean finished first. Depends on what you expect I suppose.
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Fruitme
Profile Joined August 2011
82 Posts
March 07 2012 16:40 GMT
#3098
On March 08 2012 01:37 Flowjo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:35 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
What's up with Idra? o o;


What do you mean? Look at his map scores for 2012. Yea, he's pretty fucking bad.


Idra should compete in some easier tournaments these are way out of his league.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 07 2012 16:40 GMT
#3099
On March 08 2012 01:28 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:26 Maghetti wrote:
Zenio is such a zvz monster with really deep knowledge of how to handle all sorts of situations. Not the korean dimaga would want his tournament life to rest on.


I dont agree with that I think his ZvZ is his worst matchup by fare. His multitasking seems very slow sometimes in the matchup.

Watch Stephano vs Zenio NASL and you can really see his flawes

He has a 71% winrate in zvz in korea. Both of his other matchups are like 30 and 40%.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 07 2012 16:41 GMT
#3100
On March 08 2012 01:36 nooboon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:22 jj33 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:18 nooboon wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:13 jj33 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:11 Velr wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:09 gozima wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:58 Chrian wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:56 WigglingSquid wrote:
By chance, does Mr. Bitter play Zerg? His casting seems quite... biased.


Plays zerg, doesn't follow Korean scene at all, generally massively biased towards European players he's friends with (DIMAGA, Kas etc.), and biased towards foreigners in general.


I generally don't mind the bias, but he doesn't follow the Korean scene at all? This dude is getting paid and flown around the world to talk about starcraft, and he can't take a little extra time out of his day to watch a few GSL games? That's pathetic.



Yeah.. Shame on him for actually "sleeping" and having a little "freetime".

He obviously should use at least 22h of his day to watch SC2...



OH please. take what he said and completely warp it.

mrbitter is a "professional caster" any guy on TL who isn't a pro player or caster can follow the Korean scene casually and at least know some players and who are the up and comers etc.

that caster is wilfully ignorant of the korean scene and yet hes supposed to be a professional caster.

thats' just retarded.


So someone can't be professional if they don't follow the korean scene?


nice strawman.

try again. what you just said is retarded. If you're a professional caster, you should at least have some knowledge of the KOrean scene, especially when you're casting games with koreans involved. its' called professionalism.

I heard Korea isn't revelant in sc2 huh?


I agree that he should have some knowledge of the scene, but that is not all professionalism is. Professionalism is how a person conducts themselves on the job and a person can be professional even if they have none or very little knowledge of what is going on. (It might not be a good cast but at least they can show they they know how act accordingly)

EDIT: Sad that Dimaga lost, but also happy that Zenio advanced...all but group b has 1 of each race advancing


Making it extremely obvious who you're rooting for and worse, being super negative and disappointed when he loses (especially to a Korean) isn't professional any way you look at it. I like Bitter's casting usually, but his bias is getting somewhat ridiculous.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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