[IEM] World - Day 2 @ CeBIT - Page 157
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00Visor
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IMoperator
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Delicious Insanity
Belgium841 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:52 00Visor wrote: will they show the group drawings? Would not count on it. | ||
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
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Raistlin
Sweden104 Posts
Check it out at http://gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/18829-grubby-everything-good-that-happened-to-me-i-owe-to-warcraft GosuGamers: Grubby, you arrived here yesterday as a last replacement in your group and you had a really rough time in the first day. Can you just walk us through your experience thus far at IEM? Grubby: Yeah, as you said I came as a last minute replacement and did not know the tournament maps or exactly who was in my group. There were a lot of protosses but I didn't do any particular training, just ladder practice. But I wanted to help ESL in having a player in the group and I was next in the ranking of the people who could actually make it. Thus, in that way I guess I deserve it due to my HomeStory Cup performance but normally I would have done more particular preparation. Still, I figured I give it a shot: if it goes well - great, if not I'll try not to guilt myself. I started off with a rough loss against MC, then HasuObs also played really really well. Against Elfi, I was up one-nill and I felt I was doing really well in the second game but I missed my forcefield and he walked down the ramp and I shouldn't have let him get out that way. GosuGamers: PvP is a very volatile match but would that if you had a decent time to prepare you would have done much better? Grubby: Well, having to play only one match-up can be considered some kind of an advantage but at the same time I felt that with having so many protosses, no one will go 5-0 in the group. I'm not the one to say that PvP is a luck match-up, I don´t believe that, but on the other hand I know that it's extremely difficult to go 10-0 in a group with four other protosses. I expected that everyone will be trading blows and as you can see no one ever went 4-1. But yeah, I think with more preparation in PvP I would have had a wider spectrum of strategies. I have some that work quite well but there are other that I am not quite familiar with and I try to adapt to them on the fly. But I can't complain - I am here after all, I am watching the games, having fun and it's still really nice to be here. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:44 c0ldfusion wrote: Mr.Bitter has always been biased in his commentary. I don't think it's a huge deal. Oh... it sure as hell would be if it was the other way around. I know it sucks to see you favorite players go out one by one, but he's in a position where he's expected to be (or at least pretend to be) a bit more objective, I really don't care about what players he likes and it's certainly not neccessary to hear all that negativity, specially towards a group of highly skilled players whose only 'fault' is being korean. | ||
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Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
Koreans after group phase: 66,6% But I think foreigners performed not that bad so far. MC and Supernova only 3:2 + instead of Violet/Jyp Socke could have easily andvanced, too. | ||
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dash4cash
Germany29 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:48 ggrrg wrote: According to liquipedia, the worst Puma can get is +4 in mapscore which would be equal to Killer's score, but since Puma beat Killer in their bo3, Puma has already secured 1st place. I think they count first, who had won more maps, then the difference and then head-to-head. | ||
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
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Poisonblack
452 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:52 IMoperator wrote: man t/z not doing very well overall. MMA still going to win the whole thing though, he's just the best player. Races performance is pretty similar for all three actually as: 3/6 Terrans advance 3/7 Zergs advance 6/11 Protoss advance | ||
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Urbz
Netherlands456 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:54 [Silverflame] wrote: "Re-Run 18:30" whatever this means... just streaming the whole day again or what?^^ Well, I guess I'll see in half an hour. Correct. | ||
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Presidenten
Sweden777 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:44 Zzoram wrote: It is being played, but it doesn't matter at all. SeleCT is out and Puma could lose 0-2 and still have the better map score and take 1st place. On March 08 2012 01:56 quannguyen wrote: will the Select-Puma game be played? That game won't matter anymore cuz Puma is guaranteed 1st and Select 4th, right? False, actually. Killer would have 9-5, which is better than the 8-4 of PuMa according to the rulebook and would therefore be 1st in the group. Source: http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't think it's disappointing. They consistently took maps off of the Koreans and in one group a non-Korean finished first. Depends on what you expect I suppose. I expected IdrA to beat MMA! Across groups somehow! But yeah, foreigners did quite well in group B and D. Just maybe not the fan favorites in terms of foreigners. | ||
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:57 Presidenten wrote: False, actually. Killer would have 9-5, which is better than the 8-4 of PuMa according to the rulebook and would therefore be 1st in the group. Source: http://eslgfx.net/media/de/news/2012/masters/hanover/IEM_WC2012_Additional_Rules.pdf Ah I understand. So aside from map score difference, the one who wins more map will place 1st. Thank you ![]() | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
And indeed, Bitter is a overrated caster, he is so freaking biased, and also have poor game senses about what is going to happen during the game. I have nothing aganist the guy, seems a really cool person, but as a caster, imo he suck. And balance seems much much better than some months ago, most races have 50%+-5. | ||
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Benjamin80
581 Posts
On March 08 2012 01:40 Maghetti wrote: He has a 71% winrate in zvz in korea. Both of his other matchups are like 30 and 40%. I didnt knew that then im sorry. I just feel I only watch Zenio´s ZvZ when he loses. But yea didnt knew about his stats so sorry | ||
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Delicious Insanity
Belgium841 Posts
If I understand correctly, MMA, MC, Feast and Puma are in the Quarterfinals. That leaves 8 players for the RO16... I'm so confused. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
This seems to give kind of an advantage for the quarterfinal #1, with more rest for the semifinal, except you don't know who your opponent is until the following day anyway. Still, you could have a PvP determining your next opponent. Sorry if this sounds stupid, but how does the RO16 work? If I understand correctly, MMA, MC, Feast and Puma are in the Quarterfinals. That leaves 8 players for the RO16... I'm so confused. There's basically just two consecutive rounds of 8, with the 4 from the first round advancing to play the 4 seeded players in the next round. | ||
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Flowjo
United States928 Posts
On March 08 2012 02:04 Delicious Insanity wrote: Sorry if this sounds stupid, but how does the RO16 work? If I understand correctly, MMA, MC, Feast and Puma are in the Quarterfinals. That leaves 8 players for the RO16... I'm so confused. That means that it's basically 8/16 in ro16, the winners get to fight against the players who placed first in their groups. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On March 08 2012 02:04 Delicious Insanity wrote: Sorry if this sounds stupid, but how does the RO16 work? If I understand correctly, MMA, MC, Feast and Puma are in the Quarterfinals. That leaves 8 players for the RO16... I'm so confused. 8 players in Ro16 => 4 advance into quarterfinals with the groupwinners we then have 8 players in quarterfinals | ||
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