EPTMLG Spring Arena Dates Announced - Page 7
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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RaiD.RaynoR
United States294 Posts
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Isaac
United States810 Posts
On March 03 2012 06:44 Smackzilla wrote: There's nothing rational about it. Some people just want to bitch. Its sort of like having Christmas every month. Suddenly the quality and the, for lack of a better word, epicness goes down. edit: personally, i dont mind having mlgs every month. but having it every week could bring that feeling down for me. | ||
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On March 03 2012 06:46 nam nam wrote: If fewer means higher quality it makes perfect sense. You could argue this issue. That's a fair point, although I'd wager most people were simply still bitter at MLG for trying PPV. I'd wager 2 arenas simply means more players. 2 arenas means that if there's a scheduling conflict with one, then there's a chance at making the other. There are plenty of top quality players that didn't make winter arena that I'd love to see in an arena and then seeded in the championships, so I'm not too worried about the quality of players being diluted. I'd also say that 2 arenas will increase the number of top players we see in the MLG championships. | ||
schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On March 03 2012 07:01 Isaac wrote: Its sort of like having Christmas every month. Suddenly the quality and the, for lack of a better word, epicness goes down. edit: personally, i dont mind having mlgs every month. but having it every week could bring that feeling down for me. Sure, at some point it breaks down. However, I don't think going from 1 arena and 1 championship to 2 arenas and 1 championship pushes us over that edge. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On March 03 2012 06:31 Xcobidoo wrote: You know some of these smaller events like ASUS, Dreamhack, IPL and NASL just slip under the radar, it happens. You can't keep track of every tournament out there, especially not those that are 2(plural!) times a year. dreamhack isnt a small tournament | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
He was being sarcastic :| | ||
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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On March 03 2012 05:46 LovE- wrote: You realize all of the players had EVERYTHING paid for for the arenas? Travel/Hotel/3 Meals per day... AND they got money for top finishes? What more do you want? Give each player $5,000.00 for just coming? No I dont. But I want players to be payed for there work time. Who cares if they get a free trip to NY. They are still working and spending time in NY without getting payed. Atleast at mcdonalds you get minimum vage  So you think its ok that players only get a free trip to New York and work there ass off while MLG makes $$$ of the players? | ||
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
On March 03 2012 07:43 HappyChris wrote: No I dont. But I want players to be payed for there work time. Who cares if they get a free trip to NY. They are still working and spending time in NY without getting payed. Atleast at mcdonalds you get minimum vage So you think its ok that players only get a free trip to New York and work there ass off while MLG makes $$$ of the players? In the end, the players CHOOSE to go. | ||
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
They didn't announce the overall attendance via stream, going with an extremely vague and meaningless "this was a success". I guess this pretty much says that PPV didn't work as well as they thought it would. Hopefully they will reevaluate the situation. Overall, the tournament was amazing and you can't really ask for a more stacked tournament than this one. | ||
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On March 03 2012 07:43 HappyChris wrote: No I dont. But I want players to be payed for there work time. Who cares if they get a free trip to NY. They are still working and spending time in NY without getting payed. Atleast at mcdonalds you get minimum vage So you think its ok that players only get a free trip to New York and work there ass off while MLG makes $$$ of the players? Everyone can't be a winner. Upping the prize pool is nice, but a real salary is better. Earning a decent living is the responsibility of teams and their sponsors. MLG has payed the expense of players going to the tournament. Teams and their sponsors reaped the benefit of having their brand represented at MLG basically for free. If players need more money, the teams can pass that savings onto their players in the form of a salary and/or raise, pay for team houses, support them in their training or send them to other tournaments they can make money at, etc. Course, I'm sure its all much more complicated than that. I just think it's crap to say that MLG is not helping players out with free travel, room, and board. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On March 03 2012 07:50 kiy0 wrote: Gotta love the part where he goes "first of all.. this was a success [fake reading the cards]" They didn't announce the overall attendance via stream, going with an extremely vague and meaningless "this was a success". I guess this pretty much says that PPV didn't work as well as they thought it would. Hopefully they will reevaluate the situation. Overall, the tournament was amazing and you can't really ask for a more stacked tournament than this one. Even if the first one was a great success or a mild failure they need more data points to truly know where this whole PPV stands. So unless they only got 100 or so people buying the PPV there were going to be more PPV events regardless. Anyone who thought otherwise is delusional. The more PPV events there are the less "new" they are and more people hesitant to purchase. Especially if other events will have the same exact players just a week later for free and without Extended Series so you actually get to see straight up Bo5's and Bo7's between the best players. MLG needs a monopoly or this will either fizzle out or just become a one or two time a year event. They've already attempted to buy loyalty from teams/personalities through their referral system. I wouldn't be surprised if they start paying for appearance fees to certain players so they don't go to another conflicting tournament that will have more viewers for the teams sponsors. Which at the end of the day pays the teams bills. The writing is on the wall. | ||
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Lennient
497 Posts
On March 03 2012 07:50 kiy0 wrote: Gotta love the part where he goes "first of all.. this was a success [fake reading the cards]" They didn't announce the overall attendance via stream, going with an extremely vague and meaningless "this was a success". I guess this pretty much says that PPV didn't work as well as they thought it would. Hopefully they will reevaluate the situation. Overall, the tournament was amazing and you can't really ask for a more stacked tournament than this one. Why would they continue to do so if they failed ? For the passion of Esports ? Also, they can just make up a number. If they announced a number that exceeds the expectation of everyone ,other organizations would follow. | ||
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TheSir
1830 Posts
On March 03 2012 07:43 HappyChris wrote: No I dont. But I want players to be payed for there work time. Who cares if they get a free trip to NY. They are still working and spending time in NY without getting payed. Atleast at mcdonalds you get minimum vage So you think its ok that players only get a free trip to New York and work there ass off while MLG makes $$$ of the players? They get paid for their time when they are winning, that's what sports is. I can imagine though they probably get a small entering fee and dont forget that players had the option to use the referral system to get a percentage (i guess) of the tickets. Thats not bad when they cover you on everything else and you even can take someone with you if you really want. And only a free trip? When for example a EU player need to cover something like that on his own money it will cost him probably around $1,5/$2k total (2 tickets, hotel, food etc), not to mention he has to enrage it all, now MLG did it all for the players. | ||
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Nonvidius
United States34 Posts
On March 03 2012 05:27 HappyChris wrote: No I dont. But I want players to be payed for there work time. Who cares if they get a free trip to NY. They are still working and spending time in NY without getting payed. Atleast at mcdonalds you get minimum vage So you think its ok that players only get a free trip to New York and work there ass off while MLG makes $$$ of the players? I hope you realize that MLG is far from making any money, probably very far. If you want players to make more there needs to be incentives for companies to pay them more, hopefully this PPV model works out for MLG and they are at least covering their transport + room and board unlike every other tourney. Don't know why MLG keeps getting flak for this stuff . . . I guess people are really that selfish and bitter about losing their free content. | ||
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krisss
Luxembourg305 Posts
On March 03 2012 08:14 TheSir wrote: They get paid for their time when they are winning, that's what sports is. I can imagine though they probably get a small entering fee and dont forget that players had the option to use the referral system to get a percentage (i guess) of the tickets. Thats not bad when they cover you on everything else and you even can take someone with you if you really want. And only a free trip? When for example a EU player need to cover something like that on his own money it will cost him probably around $1,5/$2k total (2 tickets, hotel, food etc), not to mention he has to enrage it all, now MLG did it all for the players. You dont get it. You cant buy ur children food, when all you get is paid trips. And the players are not fukkin salesman. If they wanted to make money by selling stuff, they could definately find a better job than gettin those few bucks from selling tickets?! And yes, they get paid for winning,t hats professional sports. But the relation between what we clients pay, and what the actual stars get is pathetic. We pay 20 dollars each, how much of this money is gone to the main characters? 1 dollar of each pass? sorry, thats just a rip-off. This system would not survive in a "real" economic system. It only works because progamers a kind of "idealistic". 99% of them do it because they love it. If they find out how much money MLG makes by selling those passes for 20 dollars each.. i hope they demand more prize money.. | ||
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