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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 25 2012 14:50 GMT
#1941
On February 25 2012 23:47 Bommes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:37 MCDayC wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:31 Bommes wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:22 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:16 AxionSteel wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:14 Woizit wrote:
I don't know why people wouldn't say he's one of the best zergs in the world. Boxer said he's Code S quality after IPL, MVP said he's Code S quality after Blizzard Cup. He's not exactly proven in results against top players in tournaments, but top players have already acknowledged his strength.

How many top zergs are there in Korea anyway? Nestea, DRG, Leenock. Maybe Lucky and Curious as well, and Stephano has already crushed Lucky, who said he's a great player as well. It's not difficult to consider him one of the best when there are so few zergs at the very top.


Well, technically he is one of the best zergs in the world, since Korea is only one country He still is one of the best zergs in the world though, I wouldn't call him top 5, but he showed in the Blizz cup that he hold his own with the top koreans, and during his ladder sessions over there where he did extremely well crushing lots of top protosses.

I'm not a fanboy, I hate the zerg race as a whole, but he's definitely really good.



Who is top 5 in your opinion then?


DRG, Leenock, Nestea, Lucky, Losira, Monster, Coca, Zenio, Violet, Dimaga

imo these guys are all capable of playing on a higher or similar level of Stephano. Stephano has steady and good performances and his ZvP and ZvZ is definitely top class, but because of his ZvT it would be hard for me to call him a safe Top 5.

DRG, Leenock certainly, but after that it gets confusing.
Nestea has dropped allot, Lucky has lost to Stephano before (4-0!), Losira has fallen sooooo far, Monster is good but hasn't really shown the skill of the above, Coca hasn't played a competitive game in months, Zenio is good but like monster, Violet has better vT by alot, but slightly worse vZ and worse vP, and Dimaga is just worse.


With that reasoning Polt is 100% better than MMA because he won 4-0 against him. Also that was some months ago too. Also Dimaga won multiple times against Stephano and has a lot of tournament wins too. Coca was banned so of course he wasn't able to play any competitive games, doesn't change the fact that he is a good player.

I wouldn't say Losira, Monster, Violet or Zenio are clear Top 5 zergs either, there just AREN'T clear Top 5 zergs because atm you can only say that DRG is the best zerg and Leenock is definitely Top 5.

I see Stephano as a good Code S zerg similar to HuK who was Code S for a good amount of time, but I don't see how you can definitely say that he is better than Dimaga, Violet, Lucky, Monster or Nestea.


Zenio has to be highly considered for Top 5; he's a perennial Code S Zerg even if he's never been able to rise far. I'm confident he'll make it back up; he always looks monstrous against the 'rank and file' Code A players.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 25 2012 14:50 GMT
#1942
On February 25 2012 23:48 HowardRoark wrote:
I fell asleep before Stephano vs Elfi. How did Elfi manage to win a game? Was it the first?

Elfi had to much energy on sentrys, he was going for immortal sentry warpprism 2 base allin and stephano thought he can win it without hydras
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 14:52:29
February 25 2012 14:50 GMT
#1943
On February 25 2012 23:47 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Any GSL champ would be favoured, but in this case I think Polt might be over-favoured. I think Stephano's style matches up well with Polt's, and I've never had the impression that he's much of an adaptive player.


Stephano said that he was never able to beat Polt when they played. Moreover, Polt's tank-less style counters his - the answer to mass zerglings is mass hellions and marines.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
February 25 2012 14:51 GMT
#1944
On February 25 2012 23:48 HowardRoark wrote:
I fell asleep before Stephano vs Elfi. How did Elfi manage to win a game? Was it the first?


Stephano misread Elfi taking 4 gases as teching. Elfi, however, was preparing a very strong immortal+gateway timing push.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 25 2012 14:51 GMT
#1945
On February 25 2012 23:50 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:47 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Any GSL champ would be favoured, but in this case I think Polt might be over-favoured. I think Stephano's style matches up well with Polt's, and I've never had the impression that he's much of an adaptive player.


Stephano said straight out that he was never able to beat Polt when they played. His style doesn't match up well with Polt's - Polt's tank-less style counters his; the answer to mass zerglings is mass hellions and marines.


-_-

I stand corrected.

Guess we'll see if Stephano can adapt to Polt then, because I really don't see Lucky being more than a speed bump right now.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 25 2012 14:52 GMT
#1946
On February 25 2012 23:50 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:47 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Any GSL champ would be favoured, but in this case I think Polt might be over-favoured. I think Stephano's style matches up well with Polt's, and I've never had the impression that he's much of an adaptive player.


Stephano said straight out that he was never able to beat Polt when they played. His style doesn't match up well with Polt's - Polt's tank-less style counters his; the answer to mass zerglings is mass hellions and marines.

Have they played more recently than the Blizzard cup? That's the only time I know that they faced each other and Polt won. Have they played each other in any online cups?
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
February 25 2012 14:52 GMT
#1947
On February 25 2012 23:48 Eurekastreet wrote:
The Asus republic of gamers ad got me interested....


*opens chrome
*types in http://rog.asus.com/

Error establishing a database connection




I just googled ASUS, then used the links to look at the specific product that caught my eye - that Rampage IV Extreme motherboard.

After looking at it... I'm geeky. But not that geeky. (Solder to video cards, plug into motherboard?) Absolutely a beast of a product - I'd have to study to think about spending that much on it though.

Still crazy products.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 25 2012 14:52 GMT
#1948
On February 25 2012 23:48 HowardRoark wrote:
I fell asleep before Stephano vs Elfi. How did Elfi manage to win a game? Was it the first?

2 base sentry/Immortal/Stalker with Warp Prism reinforcements. He was able to get into Stephano's 3rd unopposed on Antiga because Stephano had over-droned and use forcefields on the bottlenecks and then did the same at the natural and won. It was good play for sure.
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Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
February 25 2012 14:52 GMT
#1949
On February 25 2012 23:48 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:45 Meteora.GB wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Funny thing is that this side of the semifinals both are underrated players compare to the Stephano/Puma hype train and are dark horses.

Gogogo Polt.

Difficult to underrate someone who is a GSL winner. And Lucky was a finalist in IPL3. They aren't darkhorses.


Considering how everyone forgets about Polt's accomplishment, I say they're dark horses. But you're right, just that Polt usually goes unnoticed for his win.

And Lucky is a strange one.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#1950
On February 25 2012 23:48 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:45 Meteora.GB wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Funny thing is that this side of the semifinals both are underrated players compare to the Stephano/Puma hype train and are dark horses.

Gogogo Polt.

Difficult to underrate someone who is a GSL winner. And Lucky was a finalist in IPL3. They aren't darkhorses.


Well....

People considered Polt overrated and thought his Super tournament win was a fluke all the way up to when he started getting more exposure through his stream.
Gameplay > Personality
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
February 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#1951
Supply capping himself as a boss
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
February 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#1952
TB uses the word "deploy" quite a lot. :D
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#1953
On February 25 2012 23:53 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:48 Otolia wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:45 Meteora.GB wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Funny thing is that this side of the semifinals both are underrated players compare to the Stephano/Puma hype train and are dark horses.

Gogogo Polt.

Difficult to underrate someone who is a GSL winner. And Lucky was a finalist in IPL3. They aren't darkhorses.


Well....

People considered Polt overrated and thought his Super tournament win was a fluke all the way up to when he started getting more exposure through his stream.

Polt is forever underrated
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SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
February 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#1954
I stopped watchin SC, because every tournament is owned by the Koreans. Is it still any fun to watch for foreigners?
The Prince of DroneS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 25 2012 14:55 GMT
#1955
On February 25 2012 23:53 SixSongs wrote:
I stopped watchin SC, because every tournament is owned by the Koreans. Is it still any fun to watch for foreigners?

I like to watch high level games so I still enjoy it
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MR KING
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden145 Posts
February 25 2012 14:55 GMT
#1956
On February 25 2012 23:53 SixSongs wrote:
I stopped watchin SC, because every tournament is owned by the Koreans. Is it still any fun to watch for foreigners?

lol fyl.

Korean zergs sure seems to hate third bases against terran
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
February 25 2012 14:55 GMT
#1957
On February 25 2012 23:53 SixSongs wrote:
I stopped watchin SC, because every tournament is owned by the Koreans. Is it still any fun to watch for foreigners?


Well I usually find it ok, as long as there is race variety. When this turns out to be a TvT Final or ZvZ (which is very unlikely) I am out.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 25 2012 14:56 GMT
#1958
On February 25 2012 23:50 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:47 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Any GSL champ would be favoured, but in this case I think Polt might be over-favoured. I think Stephano's style matches up well with Polt's, and I've never had the impression that he's much of an adaptive player.


Stephano said that he was never able to beat Polt when they played. Moreover, Polt's tank-less style counters his - the answer to mass zerglings is mass hellions and marines.


They play a lot in European cups ( Millenium cup thing they meet a few time )
But Polt usualy is very tired in these games and play 2 base timing style a lot. ( it's like 7am en korea each time )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 25 2012 14:56 GMT
#1959
On February 25 2012 23:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 23:50 Azarkon wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:47 iamthedave wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:43 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 23:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Yea! Polt is outplaying Lucky by a lot this game :D


nothing to add here - he seems to be the main favorite to take it all.


Any GSL champ would be favoured, but in this case I think Polt might be over-favoured. I think Stephano's style matches up well with Polt's, and I've never had the impression that he's much of an adaptive player.


Stephano said straight out that he was never able to beat Polt when they played. His style doesn't match up well with Polt's - Polt's tank-less style counters his; the answer to mass zerglings is mass hellions and marines.

Have they played more recently than the Blizzard cup? That's the only time I know that they faced each other and Polt won. Have they played each other in any online cups?


MSI Pro Cup #5 (2-1, Polt), one of them at least and going to be another one soon in #7.

Also probably played on ladder quite a few times. Stephano was exaggerating, he has beaten Polt before, but he probably has a bad overall record.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 25 2012 14:56 GMT
#1960
OH SHIT. Polt is making his marauders
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