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On February 25 2012 23:06 Slapshot wrote: Stephano fanboys are slowly becoming more annoying than Idra fanboys in their prime... You are greatly underestimating the idra fanboys.
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On February 25 2012 23:07 openbox1 wrote: I wonder why everyone says Stephano is one of the best Zergs in the "world" when he hasn't gone up against top Korean opponents other than a very few encounters. Oh for sure, he's one of the best foreign Zerg, but has he beaten MMA, Ganzi, DRG, Genius, MC? Much less consistently? Naniwa and Thorzain got hyped to extreme and we saw what happen to them in Korea. Hell, people still say Idra is one of the top Zerg in the world even given his dismal recent results.
Doesn't take away the fact that he's a great player who has shown he can take down the likes of MKP and Polt according to TLPD results, but to qualify for one of the best in the world, he needs to beat players who are the very top, not toy with Mana, Real, Elfi...
Fanboys, eh. It's weird that Stephano and Idra managed to get so many of them. How strange that so many people who think either Stephano or Idra are top Zergs are from either France or NA, respectively.
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On February 25 2012 23:07 Heimatloser wrote: if polt wins this, tournament will be referenced when ppl want to show off polts quality. pretty good. if puma wins, tournament will be referenced to be won by just another korean on a foreign team. meh. if stephano wins, tournament will be referenced when ppl want to show off stephanos quality. not as good as polt, because not as much ppl know him (korea vs the world conflict) if the other guy wins, we all lose;-) lucky is a quality player
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Its our language, we shall pronounce the words however we like! :p
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On February 25 2012 23:07 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:04 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Olinim wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote: MC has also beaten Stephano 2-0 at HSC3 and 1-0 in BlizzCup, as well as destroying him when they met on ladder when Stephano went to Korea. HSC3 was more than 6 months ago, Stephano wasn't even a full time pro by that time. Irrelevant. HSC4 Stephano was drunk. Ladder, I watched almost every game of them on the ladder and they were 2-3 overall. (I'm not counting MC's offrace by mistake). Blizzcup was an unexplainable allin by Stephano on dual site. I still think MC got Stephano's number when it comes to 2base all-inning him, but your examination of their previous encounters is dreadfully biased at BEST. And your examination is just a bunch of lame excuses at best... Cool, have it your way and keep claiming that Stephano's just some trash foreigner that just beats foreign players and until he 4-0 MC he will be worse than the most mediocre of the codeA players then. Have fun. Don't know why you have to be so worked up over someone just having a different opinion of a player than you. I get it, you love stephano but you could just relax and stop trying to convince everyone to masturbate to the sight of stephanos play.
You tell people "you masturbate of the sight of Stephano's play"
And you tell me that I'm the one worked up?
You're insulting users for free, when none even mentioned you in the conversation.
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On February 25 2012 23:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:05 dainbramage wrote:On February 25 2012 23:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 25 2012 23:02 Flanq wrote:On February 25 2012 22:59 Devolved wrote: Great, now I'm gonna have to go through another series with these Brits saying Peeyuma this Peeyuma that! For the love of God, it's pronounced Pooma! /rant It's pronounced Pew-ma. Official pronunciation in b.e pjuːmə Pew-MaJust Saying. Both are accepted pronunciations http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/puma And everywhere that speaks actual english (as opposed to american) pronounces it pew-ma. Which is... everywhere except for USA/Canada. Ok. Sorry I dont speak "actual english" and speak a dialect specific to the region I live in. I didn't go about saying NO PEWMA IS WRONG, I was just explaining to everyone since it always seems to be a major issue every time Puma is playing (and since everyone that is like wtf is usually american/canadian) that it is fine to say it either way.
hell no bro! We speak actual English. Who won the revolutionary war? Who saved Europe from German rule? Don't cave in to them!
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On February 25 2012 23:07 Zealot Orgy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:05 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 23:04 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Olinim wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote: MC has also beaten Stephano 2-0 at HSC3 and 1-0 in BlizzCup, as well as destroying him when they met on ladder when Stephano went to Korea. HSC3 was more than 6 months ago, Stephano wasn't even a full time pro by that time. Irrelevant. HSC4 Stephano was drunk. Ladder, I watched almost every game of them on the ladder and they were 2-3 overall. (I'm not counting MC's offrace by mistake). Blizzcup was an unexplainable allin by Stephano on dual site. I still think MC got Stephano's number when it comes to 2base all-inning him, but your examination of their previous encounters is dreadfully biased at BEST. And your examination is just a bunch of lame excuses at best... Cool, have it your way and keep claiming that Stephano's just some trash foreigner that just beats foreign players and until he 4-0 MC he will be worse than the most mediocre of the codeA players then. Have fun. Nobody is claiming that. What are you reading? Everyone has. "What? He's 29-0? So what? Did he beat MC? NO. Overhyped foreigner". "Easy to win 30 vP in a row against trash players like these." "If this was Genius, and that was Parting, and he was MC, and those were Oz and Puzzle, he would have lost". Every single one of you is acting genuinely irritated by the fact that Stephano beats players. No, we're upset that his opponents are losing games rather than him winning them. Elfi SHOULD have had that series 2-0, no question, and even game 3 would've been iffy with better execution. Unquestionably the best foreign ZvP and he still doesn't look convincing against okay-executed variants of the Korean 2base plays... That's what people are irritated about.
You're also being ridiculously defensive. No one has called Stephano bad, or his record negligible. Chill out.
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On February 25 2012 23:07 openbox1 wrote: I wonder why everyone says Stephano is one of the best Zergs in the "world" when he hasn't gone up against top Korean opponents other than a very few encounters. Oh for sure, he's one of the best foreign Zerg, but has he beaten MMA, Ganzi, DRG, Genius, MC? Much less consistently? Naniwa and Thorzain got hyped to extreme and we saw what happen to them in Korea. Hell, people still say Idra is one of the top Zerg in the world even given his dismal recent results.
Doesn't take away the fact that he's a great player who has shown he can take down the likes of MKP and Polt according to TLPD results, but to qualify for one of the best in the world, he needs to beat players who are the very top, not toy with Mana, Real, Elfi... One of the reason he is here all those players are at mlg. He plays the smart money 1st here and mlg are the same prize money, which would you attend.
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On February 25 2012 23:07 Zealot Orgy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:05 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 23:04 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Olinim wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote: MC has also beaten Stephano 2-0 at HSC3 and 1-0 in BlizzCup, as well as destroying him when they met on ladder when Stephano went to Korea. HSC3 was more than 6 months ago, Stephano wasn't even a full time pro by that time. Irrelevant. HSC4 Stephano was drunk. Ladder, I watched almost every game of them on the ladder and they were 2-3 overall. (I'm not counting MC's offrace by mistake). Blizzcup was an unexplainable allin by Stephano on dual site. I still think MC got Stephano's number when it comes to 2base all-inning him, but your examination of their previous encounters is dreadfully biased at BEST. And your examination is just a bunch of lame excuses at best... Cool, have it your way and keep claiming that Stephano's just some trash foreigner that just beats foreign players and until he 4-0 MC he will be worse than the most mediocre of the codeA players then. Have fun. Nobody is claiming that. What are you reading? Everyone has. "What? He's 29-0? So what? Did he beat MC? NO. Overhyped foreigner". "Easy to win 30 vP in a row against trash players like these." "If this was Genius, and that was Parting, and he was MC, and those were Oz and Puzzle, he would have lost". Every single one of you is acting genuinely irritated by the fact that Stephano beats players. once could arghue about the oz part, but genius surely would have stomped him
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Please stop the Stephano vs the world arguments and discussing how to pronounce Puma, please.
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On February 25 2012 23:09 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:07 openbox1 wrote: I wonder why everyone says Stephano is one of the best Zergs in the "world" when he hasn't gone up against top Korean opponents other than a very few encounters. Oh for sure, he's one of the best foreign Zerg, but has he beaten MMA, Ganzi, DRG, Genius, MC? Much less consistently? Naniwa and Thorzain got hyped to extreme and we saw what happen to them in Korea. Hell, people still say Idra is one of the top Zerg in the world even given his dismal recent results.
Doesn't take away the fact that he's a great player who has shown he can take down the likes of MKP and Polt according to TLPD results, but to qualify for one of the best in the world, he needs to beat players who are the very top, not toy with Mana, Real, Elfi... Fanboys, eh. It's weird that Stephano and Idra managed to get so many of them. How strange that so many people who think either Stephano or Idra are top Zergs are from either France or NA, respectively.
In any case, anyone must be really deluded to think that Idra is still one of the best players or even zergs in the world after his recent dismal showings.
At least stephano wins tourneys he enters in.
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Just call him mountain lion or big cat ffs
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On February 25 2012 23:07 Zealot Orgy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:05 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 23:04 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Olinim wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote: MC has also beaten Stephano 2-0 at HSC3 and 1-0 in BlizzCup, as well as destroying him when they met on ladder when Stephano went to Korea. HSC3 was more than 6 months ago, Stephano wasn't even a full time pro by that time. Irrelevant. HSC4 Stephano was drunk. Ladder, I watched almost every game of them on the ladder and they were 2-3 overall. (I'm not counting MC's offrace by mistake). Blizzcup was an unexplainable allin by Stephano on dual site. I still think MC got Stephano's number when it comes to 2base all-inning him, but your examination of their previous encounters is dreadfully biased at BEST. And your examination is just a bunch of lame excuses at best... Cool, have it your way and keep claiming that Stephano's just some trash foreigner that just beats foreign players and until he 4-0 MC he will be worse than the most mediocre of the codeA players then. Have fun. Nobody is claiming that. What are you reading? Everyone has. "What? He's 29-0? So what? Did he beat MC? NO. Overhyped foreigner". "Easy to win 30 vP in a row against trash players like these." "If this was Genius, and that was Parting, and he was MC, and those were Oz and Puzzle, he would have lost". Every single one of you is acting genuinely irritated by the fact that Stephano beats players. So much confirmation bias and inability to see nuance. I don't see anyone calling him bad, just not unbeatable as a few fan boys are saying.
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On February 25 2012 23:06 Slapshot wrote: Stephano fanboys are slowly becoming more annoying than Idra fanboys in their prime...
You have to be kidding me...
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On February 25 2012 23:08 Gevna wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:05 Doublemint wrote:On February 25 2012 23:04 Bommes wrote:I hope Stephano vs. Puma will be fun and exciting, but my feeling is that Puma will just stomp over Stephano  ZvT really not his strength. I am also wondering - how is Puma´s/Stephano´s ZvT? Anyone got some good info on either of the two? I don't really know for puma, but he was losing a lot in TvZ lately. Stephano said in an interview he was afraid of korean terran since his zvt is bad. He mostly trains zvp.
KK so nothing concrete at last^^ Well let´s just hope for good games
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On February 25 2012 23:08 dainbramage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:07 felisconcolori wrote:On February 25 2012 23:05 dainbramage wrote:On February 25 2012 23:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 25 2012 23:02 Flanq wrote:On February 25 2012 22:59 Devolved wrote: Great, now I'm gonna have to go through another series with these Brits saying Peeyuma this Peeyuma that! For the love of God, it's pronounced Pooma! /rant It's pronounced Pew-ma. Official pronunciation in b.e pjuːmə Pew-MaJust Saying. Both are accepted pronunciations http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/puma And everywhere that speaks actual english (as opposed to american) pronounces it pew-ma. Which is... everywhere except for USA/Canada. GAH. Fine, I'm going to see if I can't corner Puma and get him to change his name to Cougar or MtLion or Catamount or Nightscreamer or one of the other fifty bazillion names for that cat. *grump* Nonono. Find whoever called it a puma in the first place, and ask him to instead spell it pooma. Then we'll all agree on how it's meant to be spelled.
Okay. I think, then, that we can all agree to blame the Spanish for it. Naming and Etymology (Wiki) (Since I don't think there's many Quecha around.)
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I'm ready to see Polt crush to the finish now
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On February 25 2012 23:10 Zealot Orgy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 23:07 poorcloud wrote:On February 25 2012 23:04 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Olinim wrote:On February 25 2012 23:01 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 25 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote: MC has also beaten Stephano 2-0 at HSC3 and 1-0 in BlizzCup, as well as destroying him when they met on ladder when Stephano went to Korea. HSC3 was more than 6 months ago, Stephano wasn't even a full time pro by that time. Irrelevant. HSC4 Stephano was drunk. Ladder, I watched almost every game of them on the ladder and they were 2-3 overall. (I'm not counting MC's offrace by mistake). Blizzcup was an unexplainable allin by Stephano on dual site. I still think MC got Stephano's number when it comes to 2base all-inning him, but your examination of their previous encounters is dreadfully biased at BEST. And your examination is just a bunch of lame excuses at best... Cool, have it your way and keep claiming that Stephano's just some trash foreigner that just beats foreign players and until he 4-0 MC he will be worse than the most mediocre of the codeA players then. Have fun. Don't know why you have to be so worked up over someone just having a different opinion of a player than you. I get it, you love stephano but you could just relax and stop trying to convince everyone to masturbate to the sight of stephanos play. You tell people "you masturbate of the sight of Stephano's play" And you tell me that I'm the one worked up? You're insulting users for free, when none even mentioned you in the conversation.
Lol i'm just trying to relax, your quoting everyone who has anything less than a positive opinion on stephano and replying them. Just chill out man, not everyone has to love stephano.
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