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On February 26 2012 00:13 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:09 krisss wrote:On February 26 2012 00:06 Badfatpanda wrote:On February 26 2012 00:03 nihlon wrote:On February 26 2012 00:01 Badfatpanda wrote:On February 25 2012 23:59 MESeidel wrote:On February 25 2012 23:53 SixSongs wrote:
I stopped watchin SC, because every tournament is owned by the Koreans. Is it still any fun to watch for foreigners?
I know what you mean. I often stop to watch Tournaments when every European (and idra^^) are out. Final is Korean vs Korean? I don't care... It's like watching Brazil vs Portugal Football teams in the world chamionships. Great play but no emotion towards any team on my side. You're right man, seeing MMA cry after he beat MVP in the GSL finals was so fucking emotionally dry, I felt nothing for either player, the gameplay was OK I guess... He's not talking about the players... I know that, but how can you not feel anything for players who invest that much into the game. They just have a completely different level of immersion in the pro SC scene compared to foreigners. Like do you never watch BW at all? Then I can kind of understand where you're coming from. I dont think discussing with them changes their mind. You see, those guys are like the women with football. Only time when their intrested in football is, when theres a World Cup going on. And as soon as the "home team" is out, so is their interest for the sport. Excuse me? Every football fan ever will prefer to cheer for their "home team" before the "skilled team", and all of them are perfectly capable of watching a game where they have no emotional connection to any of the teams (and they do). That doesn't make it any less dull. The problem is that in a Ro4 with only Koreans, there is often really no difference (to us) between the players. It's this guy vs that guy, and there's no basis on which to form our opinion.
That couldn't be farther than truth man, seriously...
When Santos played Barcelona in the World championship everyone around me was cheering for Barça, because who cares about nationality when a team plays football like art. Brazil lost the 2010 world cup and nobody missed a beat and watched Spain crush their way to the championship, because fans of the sport is, well exactly that... fans of the sport, not nationality.
I love Korean players and have a disdain for 90% of the foreign ones, not because they are foreign, but they have proved themselves not in par with Korean counterparts. If roles were reversed I would change bandwagon the very next day. Proof? I'd much rather watch CLG than any Korean LOL team, because they have so far proven much more skilled, period.
Of course you'd rather see home team win, but feeling nothing when excellence is laid bare in front of you, that means you are NOT fan of the sport. Sorry for the hard truth bro.
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On February 26 2012 00:31 Yaki wrote:
Polt is the most underrated korean I feel, always does great, never gets any credit
It's because people look only at results and not the games themselves :-/
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On February 26 2012 00:33 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:30 ClysmiC wrote:
My prediction: expect to see Mr. Sean Plott analyzing that game in the near future. Some great textbook play and decision-making on both sides. I saw only good decision making on Polt's side. Lucky should have won that game if he didn't lose everything to drops. Why are people even talking about Ghosts not being built? There was no economy for that.
And why would Day9 make a daily about that? Don't you know that he only does Ret/Zenio or HerO dailies?
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Pimpest play. It was entertaining not because of bad plays but because of Polt playing perfectly from start to finish. The insane hold in the beginning and then the mid game and the late game. Polt gave me some hope about Star2 being an esport.
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On February 26 2012 00:33 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:31 cutler wrote:
Finally some hope for terran! Polt you are an genius LOOL really? - FINALLY some HOPE for Terran? Where the heck have you been, Terrans NEVER did REALLY bad.
You obviously haven't followed the GSL then.
Now, I wonder how Lucky's mental state is. Losing like that can crush mental strength. Or will he pull himself together and fight his way back?
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I like Apollo. You can tell he is genuinely obsessed with this game.
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On February 26 2012 00:34 razy wrote:
i just hope terrans will find out a way to deal with broodlords that is NOT about vikings and lucky tankdrops...
+ Show Spoiler [MLG Winter Arena] +Apparently Thorzain did some really good mech stuff yesterday against Leenock. I didn't see it but I was going to check out the vods when they are free win a week
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Lucky had no choice but staying on 3 bases, because he had not the army to defend with lings&infestors. Just stop calling lucky bad Oo
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On February 26 2012 00:33 demitap wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:31 dragonborn wrote:On February 26 2012 00:27 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:24 Naeroon wrote:On February 26 2012 00:20 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:18 dragonborn wrote:On February 26 2012 00:17 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:16 shizna wrote:polt.... best player in the world (ive been saying this since he won the gsl)  best player? more like a code a material. troll? polt is code A material? seriously? oh sorry, i forgot that he actually droped to code b this season. This guy is a master troll. Kudos to you. Just because of *WHERE* they are, does not precisely determine their *ABSOLUTE* ability. The world isn't that simple chap, sorry to tell you. f.e. bomber is in code b. BoxeR WAS code b. MC was code b. The hell is your point. chill out man, i'm not saying that polt is terrible, but when people says that hes best player in the world after some decant wins against foreigners when hes somethink like code a level. Thats like when everyone was saying that leenock will dominate evrythink after his mlg run, no offence against leenock either except polt is a gsl champion? champion like a years ago or almost years, you cant use his title now, thats like saying that fruitdealer is code s material becouse he won gsl
But you can't deny that Polt is Code S material, latest "Code S thing" was the Blizzard Cup I think and it counted as Code S as far as I am concerned, and did we see Polt there? Yes we did.
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On February 26 2012 00:32 Stiluz wrote:
Finally, maybe Terrans now can listen to us Zergs who have been spelling out how to beat BL/Infestors - mobility and spread. Well played by Polt, Lucky needed more spines around his bases.
Mhm, best zergs masses spinecrawlers around their bases and leaves like one-two infestors to shut down drops even harder. Polt simply outplayed Lucky, it had very little to do with Broodlord/Infestor immobility. And If you are saying that terran must out-multitask (in other words outplay) zerg late game in order to win, thats kinda fucked up lol.
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On February 26 2012 00:33 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:31 cutler wrote:
Finally some hope for terran! Polt you are an genius LOOL really? - FINALLY some HOPE for Terran? Where the heck have you been, Terrans NEVER did REALLY bad.
Look at the new patch...ghost nerfed to the ground...and Polt play was really great without ghost.
I never thought about using the mobility of slow zerg units to go for the kill.
For me it is the first strat that makes sense...
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On February 26 2012 00:34 razy wrote:
i just hope terrans will find out a way to deal with broodlords that is NOT about vikings and lucky tankdrops...
and zerg not building any static defenses
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On February 26 2012 00:32 Mowr wrote:
Blizzard employee: "Well, this proves it, got to nerf terran again."
How about:
Everyone: "Why yes, the Broodlord, Infestor composition has its weaknesses. Maybe the Ghost nerf was appropriate and there's yet enough we can do?"
j/k
Blizzard never does anything right, right?
Edit:
That said, none should draw too much of a conclusion from a single game - so let's relax.
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Ahh, I get how to beat bl/infestor now, all I have to do is play close to perfectly and hope my opponent doesn't leave 1 infestor at each base and wastes all his energy on infested terrans killing a pf.
Genius!
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On February 26 2012 00:35 eYeball wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:33 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:31 dragonborn wrote:On February 26 2012 00:27 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:24 Naeroon wrote:On February 26 2012 00:20 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:18 dragonborn wrote:On February 26 2012 00:17 demitap wrote:On February 26 2012 00:16 shizna wrote:polt.... best player in the world (ive been saying this since he won the gsl) best player? more like a code a material. troll? polt is code A material? seriously? oh sorry, i forgot that he actually droped to code b this season. This guy is a master troll. Kudos to you. Just because of *WHERE* they are, does not precisely determine their *ABSOLUTE* ability. The world isn't that simple chap, sorry to tell you. f.e. bomber is in code b. BoxeR WAS code b. MC was code b. The hell is your point. chill out man, i'm not saying that polt is terrible, but when people says that hes best player in the world after some decant wins against foreigners when hes somethink like code a level. Thats like when everyone was saying that leenock will dominate evrythink after his mlg run, no offence against leenock either except polt is a gsl champion? champion like a years ago or almost years, you cant use his title now, thats like saying that fruitdealer is code s material becouse he won gsl But you can't deny that Polt is Code S material, latest "Code S thing" was the Blizzard Cup I think and it counted as Code S as far as I am concerned, and did we see Polt there? Yes we did.
Look at his posts, he is troll.
we need to stop giving attention.
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What I loved most about that game was that he moved the main CC to another mineral field, and it made all the infestors spend their energy to stop that.
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On February 26 2012 00:35 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:32 Stiluz wrote:
Finally, maybe Terrans now can listen to us Zergs who have been spelling out how to beat BL/Infestors - mobility and spread. Well played by Polt, Lucky needed more spines around his bases. Mhm, best zergs masses spinecrawlers around their bases and leaves like one-two infestors to shut down drops even harder. Polt simply outplayed Lucky, it had very little to do with Broodlord/Infestor immobility. And If you are saying that terran must out-multitask (in other words outplay) zerg late game in order to win, thats kinda fucked up lol.
Mass spines on 3 bases Oo
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Terran is hard to play,that's why there aren't many top non-korean terrans.
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On February 26 2012 00:35 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:32 Stiluz wrote:
Finally, maybe Terrans now can listen to us Zergs who have been spelling out how to beat BL/Infestors - mobility and spread. Well played by Polt, Lucky needed more spines around his bases. And If you are saying that terran must out-multitask (in other words outplay) zerg late game in order to win, thats kinda fucked up lol.
Uh... having to play better to win is fucked up? ...
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On February 26 2012 00:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 00:34 razy wrote:
i just hope terrans will find out a way to deal with broodlords that is NOT about vikings and lucky tankdrops... + Show Spoiler [MLG Winter Arena] +Apparently Thorzain did some really good mech stuff yesterday against Leenock. I didn't see it but I was going to check out the vods when they are free win a week
If you'd like to see mech, watch G3 DeMu NesTea, ThorZaIN Sheth G1, and Leenock ThorZaIN game 1
Shak, Daybreak, and Daybreak were maps.
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