On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote:
Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it.

obviously nobody is blaming or hating on elfi wtf? its just sad that it requires twice the amount of skill to pull it off as a terran, pretty disheartening to watch korean terrans with their superior multitasking and micro rape everything on their path on tournaments and lose games or even sets to foreigner protosses.

.. I wish people would actually try to get to a high level of play before writing such comments. I do find TvP a very hard match up and I don't train as much. Last 3 days I did 150 games and did practice with ReaL. It is a very hard match up for BOTH sides at different stages of the game and the different strategies clashing into each other.

I guarantee you that an offensive engagement in the very late game against mass amounts of Ghosts is an equal pain in the ass AS attacking with Terran. =.= Seriously.

You're wasting your time. Even the fact that you're a progamer won't stop people from whining about the matchup.

Got plenty, sitting at works, but thanks haha :-)! I will just enjoy the games^____^!

Well since there's a pro talking in this thread I wanted to ask you a question.

Why shouldn't Terrans cry? Protoss cried non stop and finally Blizzard game them their buffs. After witnessing that, why shouldn't Terrans?

Also, the last time a foreign Terran won a major live tournament was well over a year ago. People focused exclusively on GSL-- a 32 man tournament-- and ignored the other player pool of 100s of more players where Protoss actually did quite well.

Whining hurts only yourself. Even if I find a match up very hard there's just no use to whine all the time. Last days I didn't do anything besides work and play games and I improved a ton. Just watch a game from your opponent from his view, or watch your view with his production tab. You can learn so much.

Whenever you tell yourself that you are losing because of imbalance, you won't improve. You lose because you are doing mistakes and the last days I actually realized that the match up I don't like TvP is very winnable if you just put a bit of thought into it.

I don't think the game is perfectly balanced but what makes it look imbalanced to a lot of people is that there are actually some build orders (I don't want to call them build order wins) that put you either ahead or behind and a pro usually can win from an advantage. So yes - whining only hurts you.

You've definitely gained some respect from me there. It's amazing how a guy who depends on SC2 to put bread on his table is able to stay above balance whining better than many casual players. Well spoken

First of all I actually only get angry/whine when I lose,... because thats just how it is but. I don't rely on Starcraft 2 to bring bread to the table ;-)! I'm on Type, yet I got a real job so I'm not a fulltime progamer. I'd like to be, but I don't want to give up my flat, sallary etc for the 'chance' of MAYBE winning something.

Forever Practice Partner

I kid of course. Respect for being able to work and play the game you love at a high level.

nath

United States1788 Posts

February 24 2012 19:05 GMT

#3646

On February 25 2012 04:00 wklbishop wrote:
ok... how is it that Taeja doesn't do well in the GSL?

Is it b/c he's good at improvising play and tournaments like this or something rather than preparation based play like in the GSL?

hes solid, super safe, and somewhat predictable. riskier or exploitative players do better in preparation based play (GSL)

JoeCool

Germany2520 Posts

February 24 2012 19:05 GMT

#3647

Too bad that TLO will probably not advance...

Medrea

10003 Posts

February 24 2012 19:05 GMT

#3648

Whoa they have this neat Disgaea thing goin on in the other stream atm

Blacktion

United Kingdom1148 Posts

February 24 2012 19:06 GMT

#3649

Not gonna deny being a slayers fanboy, but i really wish jinro had won that.
Sad to see him out

Shewklad

Sweden482 Posts

February 24 2012 19:06 GMT

#3650

TLO as toss ? :O

Elite__

Canada976 Posts

February 24 2012 19:06 GMT

#3651

why did mr.bitter ask vin diesel if hes seen his own movie?

SeaSwift

Scotland4486 Posts

February 24 2012 19:07 GMT

#3652

On February 25 2012 04:05 nath wrote:

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hes solid, super safe, and somewhat predictable. riskier or exploitative players do better in preparation based play (GSL)

Yeah. If Jinro had just proxied one or two barracks there, Taeja would have died.

RageBot

Israel1530 Posts

February 24 2012 19:07 GMT

#3653

Holy shit WA3 music O_O

jupiter6

205 Posts

February 24 2012 19:07 GMT

#3654

lol asking Vin Diesel if he has seen The Chronicles of Riddick

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

February 24 2012 19:08 GMT

#3655

Are TLO's remaining games going to be streamed?

JoeCool

Germany2520 Posts

February 24 2012 19:09 GMT

#3656

On February 25 2012 04:08 Zzoram wrote:
Are TLO's remaining games going to be streamed?

I think they will be streamed @Millenium TV. Just like his first match. But I am not 100% sure.

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

February 24 2012 19:09 GMT

#3657

On February 25 2012 04:05 JoeCool wrote:
Too bad that TLO will probably not advance...

Well, he's not out yet. But even if he falls at least Hero made it out convincingly.

KiNGxXx

7928 Posts

February 24 2012 19:09 GMT

#3658

On February 25 2012 04:08 Zzoram wrote:
Are TLO's remaining games going to be streamed?

TLO vs Polt should be next on the first stream (TB and Apollo).

xrapture

United States1644 Posts

February 24 2012 19:09 GMT

#3659

As a Terran player, zvp just seems sooo weird to me.

So many times I'll look at the screen, see the Zerg up 50 supply and killing the toss 3rd and be like, "eh this game is over" and go and do something else.

When I come back I see 40 blink stalkers killing everthing.

Destructicon

4713 Posts

February 24 2012 19:09 GMT

#3660

So sad to see Jinro eliminated.

Apart from that, epic first game by D.Bling, he held extremely well. However it wasn't as impressive as it could be, his macro failed hard, he was floating around 1.2k minerals and 1k gas at some points, if Phoenixes macro didn't fail as well he should have actually just crushed that army.