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United States15275 Posts
On February 25 2012 03:23 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. Yeah because thats why every korean Terran hates the matchup and have something negative to say about TvP or Protoss in like every interview they are doing. But guys, NarutO has realized something they havent. ...
Naruto's right, what are you talking about?
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On February 25 2012 03:24 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:21 Zealot Orgy wrote: 23 wins for terran against 22 wins for protoss in the TvP on this tournament so far. Doesn't mean the Matchup is fun to play or watch. It allways make me wanna throw stuff at my screen or hit something . The MU is just badly designed. And the games drag out for ages even though the game is pretty much already decided but still goes on because its impossible to attack without losing half your army.
Yeah I bet you weren't complaining when terran were roflstomping every game with 111 allins though.
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On February 25 2012 03:22 0ne wrote:I play protoss and after watching that game even i want to whine... Same here.
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On February 25 2012 03:24 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:21 Zealot Orgy wrote: 23 wins for terran against 22 wins for protoss in the TvP on this tournament so far. But the only stats the whiners here care about are how many the TeamLiquid player won. O and even though he lost 1-2 and Jinro hasn't been a top pro for a long, long time now and usually gets eliminated early in tournmanets, clearly "protoss is imba" based on that one match Jinro lost. /eyeroll
10-2 of that is from Puma and Taeja.
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
On February 25 2012 03:25 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:24 pripple wrote: damn it might be only 2 zergs in the ro16 -_- GSL had the same and one got to the finals. So it's still good. ye stephano is going to the finals aswell so no worries here!
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hey wtf in the stream it says sYz lost 3 games and he only lost 2 !!!!!!!!!
![[image loading]](http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1086/derpo.jpg)
this is wrong
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On February 25 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:23 Gosi wrote:On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. Yeah because thats why every korean Terran hates the matchup and have something negative to say about TvP or Protoss in like every interview they are doing. But guys, NarutO has realized something they havent. ... The races are all crying about each other all the time. But you should keep an eye on players that are actually not whining as much or look at their results. Polt is very good in TvP for example. Your cocky attitude is annoying. Are you actually Gosi[Terran]? Would suit you very well. No offense intended to Gosi/Major/WinDy/whatever...
...but his grammar is too good for it to be him. From seeing previous posts by him and watching him talk to others, I sincerely doubt it's him.
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On February 25 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:23 Gosi wrote:On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. Yeah because thats why every korean Terran hates the matchup and have something negative to say about TvP or Protoss in like every interview they are doing. But guys, NarutO has realized something they havent. ... The races are all crying about each other all the time. But you should keep an eye on players that are actually not whining as much or look at their results. Polt is very good in TvP for example. Your cocky attitude is annoying. Are you actually Gosi[Terran]? Would suit you very well. Didn't polt lose his most recent GSL match TvP..
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On February 25 2012 03:23 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. Yeah because thats why every korean Terran hates the matchup and have something negative to say about TvP or Protoss in like every interview they are doing. But guys, NarutO has realized something they havent. ... And Nestea has whined on protoss since 2010. Doesn't mean he's right
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Canada13402 Posts
On February 25 2012 03:21 HuKPOWA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:20 Ventor wrote:On February 25 2012 03:18 GeorgeForeman wrote: T_T
Shame for Jinro, but I guess that's just protoss :-/
Beating Teja's going to be tough. Don't start this bullshit. haha i play protoss and the fact toss can switch that fast...and do what he did...should scare people... Jinro got the perfect scout which is all u can do in beginning game....and elfi coin flipped (aka SC2) and it worked like it usually does.... its not a protoss thing...its a SC2 thing....scouting is irrelevant when u can swap tech almost immediately
I wouldn't say he swapped tech. Jinro decided to continue with expo straight into cloak banshees. Elfi decided to go 4 gate instead of teching and so it wasn't a tech switch really. Jinro didnt have control of the center of map if he did the proxy pylon near the old gold bases wouldn't have been there and he would have seen an army move out to the center of the map and could have scanned to scout again to verify the robo was still there.
Ive lost tons of games vs Zerg when they make a spire then they cancel it and make hydras so I always scout a second time to make sure the building is still there. Am I a pro player? No. But sometimes we need to accept that buildings that aren't done yet can be cancelled and something else can be made.
We also need to realise where jinro put the starport wasn't that good. Its safe against any sort of drop play but if the starport was in the main cloak probably would have finished and the cloak banshees would have stopped that 4 gate push dead in its tracks.
It was a series of poor decisions from jinro and a very good mindgame from elfi who has clearly been watching a lot of MVP Genius lately as that is exactly what genius would do.
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United States15275 Posts
On February 25 2012 03:27 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 25 2012 03:23 Gosi wrote:On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. Yeah because thats why every korean Terran hates the matchup and have something negative to say about TvP or Protoss in like every interview they are doing. But guys, NarutO has realized something they havent. ... The races are all crying about each other all the time. But you should keep an eye on players that are actually not whining as much or look at their results. Polt is very good in TvP for example. Your cocky attitude is annoying. Are you actually Gosi[Terran]? Would suit you very well. Didn't polt lose his most recent GSL match TvP..
When he was sick (which was when he barely lost to Puzzle 3-2 as well). He beat Creator and Hero in IPL4 Qualifiers cleanly.
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On February 25 2012 03:24 pripple wrote: damn it might be only 2 zergs in the ro16 -_-
Its ok, Stephano will still win it
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Elfi did scout the expansion I think, but definately not the cloak banshees. So in that sense his timing attack was very lucky, if Jinro hadn't been investing in cloak banshees he would likely have held.
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the only matches im waiting for are polt vs tlo and taeja vs jinro...
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On February 25 2012 03:27 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 25 2012 03:23 Gosi wrote:On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. Yeah because thats why every korean Terran hates the matchup and have something negative to say about TvP or Protoss in like every interview they are doing. But guys, NarutO has realized something they havent. ... The races are all crying about each other all the time. But you should keep an eye on players that are actually not whining as much or look at their results. Polt is very good in TvP for example. Your cocky attitude is annoying. Are you actually Gosi[Terran]? Would suit you very well. Didn't polt lose his most recent GSL match TvP.. He beat InCa,HerO and Creator at IPL 4 Qualfiers.
he lose to creator because he was sick these days, and bad condition imo.
Polt is still best TvP.
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On February 25 2012 03:19 Type|NarutO wrote: Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it. obviously nobody is blaming or hating on elfi wtf? its just sad that it requires twice the amount of skill to pull it off as a terran, pretty disheartening to watch korean terrans with their superior multitasking and micro rape everything on their path on tournaments and lose games or even sets to foreigner protosses.
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Looking forward for TaeJa vs Stephano, expecting TaeJa to crushhhh
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thiis type of wall can be..... just killed
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Oh my god terran players are complaining about tvp? Well no chance theres any bias there, lets simply accept that protoss is bullshit.
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On February 25 2012 03:26 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 03:24 darkest44 wrote:On February 25 2012 03:21 Zealot Orgy wrote: 23 wins for terran against 22 wins for protoss in the TvP on this tournament so far. But the only stats the whiners here care about are how many the TeamLiquid player won. O and even though he lost 1-2 and Jinro hasn't been a top pro for a long, long time now and usually gets eliminated early in tournmanets, clearly "protoss is imba" based on that one match Jinro lost. /eyeroll 10-2 of that is from Puma and Taeja.
And what's your point..? The better players are generally winning, that's how it should be... If you think Jinro is way better than Elfi, I don't know what to tell you lol. Jinro hasn't done anything in a long time, elfi has gotten deeper in more tournaments lately than Jinro.
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