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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3341
Elfi such a symphatic guy haha. Really people here need to calm down. TvP is more than "T OP" or "P OP" its actually a match up where you can do a lot if you are good. Be it with strategy, micro or multitasking. Sad people here don't seem to realize it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
QNdie
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland210 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3342
LOL, I can't belive someone made an american joke about Jinro. Oh my god, now the horrid memories of the IPL 3 LR thread are coming back to haunt me (USAUSAUSASTEPHANO) t.t
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3343
that joke was SMOOTH
Keltanokka
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Finland279 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3344
On February 25 2012 03:17 Mikah wrote:
jinro drinking ES o shit


Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3345
On February 25 2012 03:18 tree.hugger wrote:
That was so depressing to watch. And that's all I'm going to say.


Couldn't agree more, I think I'm going to do something else for a while =/
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 18:19:45
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3346
On February 25 2012 03:17 parazice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:14 Zorgaz wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:13 Ryukku wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:12 Poopi wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:08 zefreak wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:04 Loooui wrote:
On February 25 2012 02:58 goswser wrote:
People thinking jinro played terribly are so wrong. You guys can't appreciate strategical brilliance. His nukes were a tactical game, not a "I hope one of these hits his army" ploy. Did none of you notice that while all these nukes were going on, Jinro was slowly transitioning to mass mules instead of scvs, leaving him with a much bigger army? He was winning those engagements because of a much larger army supply, a maneuver achieved through his use of the nukes.


I totally agree. It is stupid to think he wanted to get lucky with a nuke, it was all tactical movement and a strategy to control space. Sure Jinro made some smaller mistakes, and so did Elfi. But it is laughable to see all those people calling it a terrible game.

Elfi had some very good decisions for example when he managed to kill the planetary 2 times in a row when jinro was out of position, good reactions to nukes and had very nice army micro with zealots in front and hts out of emp range etcetera.


I understand that he was trying to control space, but he wasn't doing it very effectively. Watch MVP use defensive nukes against Lucky for example. He doesn't throw nukes everywhere at random, he uses them sparingly to continuously drive back the deathball. Jinro was constantly wasting nukes when Elfi wasn't even considering moving out.

Also, considering Elfi's previous play, I think drops would have worked wonders even in late game.

Watch Mvp... Are you kidding us?
No terran ever can play as good as Mvp in a tactical nuke based game. It's pointless to compare


i think thats his point. The fact that so much more could have been done with that strategy means that it wasnt that good of a play by jinro


So if you can't play as MVP it's not good play?


yes : if you want to be a champion
no : if you only want to make some money

MVP Consistently loses TVP.. its his worst matchup by far.
The problem was jinro got very unlucky.. jinro was actually playing very very well.. you're suppose to take risks vs protoss but game 1 and game 3 he just got BO countered... nothing u can do... I feel bad for jinro... it's really upsetting to lose the series after his play in g2
ahPoI
Profile Joined January 2012
Malaysia35 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3347
jinro's playing so bad -.-... dont know what is he doing in korea.
Silence is the best music
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8716 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3348
On February 25 2012 03:18 tree.hugger wrote:
That was so depressing to watch. And that's all I'm going to say.


I will follow this assessment T_T...
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3349
And the Protoss whine begins.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12685 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3350
On February 25 2012 03:18 lowercase wrote:
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On February 25 2012 03:17 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:16 ceaRshaf wrote:
God, I hate tvp at this moment. Bio vs such a perfect death ball is like a massacre. Blizzard needs to buff t3 of terrans.


Blizzard needs to give Terran any kind of viable T3. Seriously, MMMGV is viable all game, but there's nothing to really transition into. This is the opposite to Protoss, where you need to move away from a pure Gateway army and try to get into the lategame ASAP.


Wait for HOTS, they're giving you a MEGATHOR.

would count that as a tier 4 unit
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#3351
This may sound crazy but I think this tournament is going to come down to Polt or HerO.
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3352
On February 25 2012 03:18 GeorgeForeman wrote:
T_T

Shame for Jinro, but I guess that's just protoss :-/

Beating Teja's going to be tough.


Don't start this bullshit.
oGsMc - EGHuK - White-Ra - SlayerSBoxeR - STBomber Fighting!~
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3353
On February 25 2012 03:18 darkest44 wrote:
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On February 25 2012 03:17 Toppp wrote:
On February 25 2012 03:17 darkest44 wrote:
two subpar pros.


lol


Whats "lol"? What has Jinro done since the early gsl seasons..?


In his defense he has been doing quite well in the ESW and almost got through the code A qualifiers.. He didn't show amazing play today but I think he is capable of it
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3354
On February 25 2012 03:19 ahPoI wrote:
jinro's playing so bad -.-... dont know what is he doing in korea.


What is his APM? Jinro just doesn't seem to have the multitasking to handle the aggressive style you need to be successful with Terran.

Passive Terran just doesn't work.
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3355
whats the point discussing late game the early attack did so much dmg it was pretty much given elfi was gonna take it after that. nothing about balance anymore there, just much behind
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3356
Elfi is so weird man

But Elfi playing PvT is just really depressing. He must have lost over 30 probes to banshees that could have been shut down by two cannons... his mechanics are really not great and I really hope Blizz can do something to the P deathball... I play protoss by the why guys and it's just depressing to watch and makes for boring games.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
MostDifferent
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway124 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3357
I'm a huge jinro fan, but he did several mistakes that game (im horrible, so i might be missing something?)

* lack of scouting (only scouted the main once, no scan, no reaper, etc) while doing an unsafe build.
* no presence on the map, a marine or hellion to look for propes/incoming armies?
* bad placement of the starport?

after the start though, he played really well..
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3358
On February 25 2012 03:19 Zzoram wrote:
This may sound crazy but I think this tournament is going to come down to Polt or HerO.


Doesn't sound crazy to me?

Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3359
On February 25 2012 03:19 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:18 tree.hugger wrote:
That was so depressing to watch. And that's all I'm going to say.


I will follow this assessment T_T...

I'm done with starcraft 2 for today
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#3360
On February 25 2012 03:18 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:16 ceaRshaf wrote:
God, I hate tvp at this moment. Bio vs such a perfect death ball is like a massacre. Blizzard needs to buff t3 of terrans.


Can hardly judge from this game, Jinro played way too greedy in the start and got punished for it. 70 probe toss vs 40 scv terran and you complain that bio is bad, mkay


I am protoss by the way so no qq. Just from a viewers point of view I hate seeing terrans trying to win with that bio. When they win it's a roll over how ever but usually a good protoss will decimate that puny bio. It's not even looking epic. You can't hype that. A protoss army looks like a late game army should. Terrans ......oh well.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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