• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:15
CET 21:15
KST 05:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site ASL21 General Discussion KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1133 users

[IPL] FC11: HerO vs ThorZaIN - Page 7

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 19 Next All
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 19 2012 01:51 GMT
#121
This 1gate nexus nexus is what ruined a GSL thread last week with imba claims.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
February 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#122
I want Hero to win...but if he does...the thread will be 1000 pages long with imba calls!!!!!!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#123
On February 19 2012 10:48 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^


I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements.

well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm.


I think you are Protoss and I don't think a high master / casual gm can pull of perfect engagements and have such good map awareness. I'm very high master and get matched from super high master to top GM so my MMR is kind of shaky, yet when I get to the stage of mass ghost / viking with full upgrades its still insanely hard as usually the Protoss have good control as well. Trying to play against TypeReaL you will get mad as he has such good control.

As said, it was all assuming perfect control which usually only very top pros such as MVP etc have. Happy is extraordinary for example in controlling his army in lategame. Anyways I don't want to discuss balance here, as I personally think the game is developing as it should be.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#124
On February 19 2012 10:53 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:48 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^


I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements.

well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm.


I think you are Protoss and I don't think a high master / casual gm can pull of perfect engagements and have such good map awareness. I'm very high master and get matched from super high master to top GM so my MMR is kind of shaky, yet when I get to the stage of mass ghost / viking with full upgrades its still insanely hard as usually the Protoss have good control as well. Trying to play against TypeReaL you will get mad as he has such good control.

As said, it was all assuming perfect control which usually only very top pros such as MVP etc have. Happy is extraordinary for example in controlling his army in lategame. Anyways I don't want to discuss balance here, as I personally think the game is developing as it should be.


I think he was agreeing with you :o
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 19 2012 01:59 GMT
#125
Is it laggy for anyone else or is it on my end? These are my two favorite players and I want uninterrupted smoothness -_-
$♥$
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 19 2012 02:00 GMT
#126
On February 19 2012 10:53 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:48 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^


I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements.

well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm.


I think you are Protoss and I don't think a high master / casual gm can pull of perfect engagements and have such good map awareness. I'm very high master and get matched from super high master to top GM so my MMR is kind of shaky, yet when I get to the stage of mass ghost / viking with full upgrades its still insanely hard as usually the Protoss have good control as well. Trying to play against TypeReaL you will get mad as he has such good control.

As said, it was all assuming perfect control which usually only very top pros such as MVP etc have. Happy is extraordinary for example in controlling his army in lategame. Anyways I don't want to discuss balance here, as I personally think the game is developing as it should be.

just to clarify: im terran and i agreed with you. "tvp is hard". i also play toss and zerg quite often but i wont express my opinion on protoss further because id get banned and it doesnt belong here.

heros army is so small once again i dont understand
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 19 2012 02:01 GMT
#127
HerO has too much probes, he cannot fight ThorZains army if he has nearly 90 probes against ~55 scvs.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:03:45
February 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#128
haha^
thorzain pissed
so much easier to take bases in that situation for protoss, just put 8 cannons and a templar, a pf is never that safe..
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
February 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#129
hero is so frustrating to play against =D
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#130
Ahh... damn
Logic is Overrated
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#131
Gahh, at least try to win an engagement... TT.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
VTFlow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#132
soo well played herO
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#133
ThorZaIN!!!!

This will be awesome :D
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#134
gg cauz no vikings
yo
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#135
lol hero has to be more willing to trade armies.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#136
wow, I would've fought that game out. lucky engagement and he could've won.
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#137
wth..ThorZaiN needed to use the restroom?
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#138
if this was idra, thread would hit 20 pages after that gg
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:04:50
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#139
Calm is such a bad Map. Very hard to take and hold bases for Terran here. No way for Thorzain to take out Heros bases in the buttom.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#140
Hero had like double the bases as he did the first game, its not really comparable.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S22 - Ladder Tour #3
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:30
FSL s10 FINALS! PTB vs POG
Freeedom89
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft344
LamboSC2 246
SteadfastSC 75
Vindicta 58
SC2Nice 28
PattyMac 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19490
Mini 824
EffOrt 542
Shuttle 319
Soulkey 112
firebathero 98
ZZZero.O 72
hero 67
IntoTheRainbow 15
NaDa 7
Dota 2
Gorgc7803
Counter-Strike
byalli1070
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox365
AZ_Axe13
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor494
Liquid`Hasu454
MindelVK18
Other Games
summit1g6241
tarik_tv2074
Grubby2021
Beastyqt602
ArmadaUGS586
Trikslyr46
mouzStarbuck21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1966
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 24
• davetesta2
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 46
• Michael_bg 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota249
League of Legends
• Jankos1731
Other Games
• imaqtpie1030
• Scarra507
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
13h 45m
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
15h 45m
BSL
22h 45m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
1d 14h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.