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[IPL] FC11: HerO vs ThorZaIN - Page 7

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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 19 2012 01:51 GMT
#121
This 1gate nexus nexus is what ruined a GSL thread last week with imba claims.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
February 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#122
I want Hero to win...but if he does...the thread will be 1000 pages long with imba calls!!!!!!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#123
On February 19 2012 10:48 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^


I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements.

well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm.


I think you are Protoss and I don't think a high master / casual gm can pull of perfect engagements and have such good map awareness. I'm very high master and get matched from super high master to top GM so my MMR is kind of shaky, yet when I get to the stage of mass ghost / viking with full upgrades its still insanely hard as usually the Protoss have good control as well. Trying to play against TypeReaL you will get mad as he has such good control.

As said, it was all assuming perfect control which usually only very top pros such as MVP etc have. Happy is extraordinary for example in controlling his army in lategame. Anyways I don't want to discuss balance here, as I personally think the game is developing as it should be.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#124
On February 19 2012 10:53 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:48 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^


I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements.

well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm.


I think you are Protoss and I don't think a high master / casual gm can pull of perfect engagements and have such good map awareness. I'm very high master and get matched from super high master to top GM so my MMR is kind of shaky, yet when I get to the stage of mass ghost / viking with full upgrades its still insanely hard as usually the Protoss have good control as well. Trying to play against TypeReaL you will get mad as he has such good control.

As said, it was all assuming perfect control which usually only very top pros such as MVP etc have. Happy is extraordinary for example in controlling his army in lategame. Anyways I don't want to discuss balance here, as I personally think the game is developing as it should be.


I think he was agreeing with you :o
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 19 2012 01:59 GMT
#125
Is it laggy for anyone else or is it on my end? These are my two favorite players and I want uninterrupted smoothness -_-
$♥$
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 19 2012 02:00 GMT
#126
On February 19 2012 10:53 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:48 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^


I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements.

well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm.


I think you are Protoss and I don't think a high master / casual gm can pull of perfect engagements and have such good map awareness. I'm very high master and get matched from super high master to top GM so my MMR is kind of shaky, yet when I get to the stage of mass ghost / viking with full upgrades its still insanely hard as usually the Protoss have good control as well. Trying to play against TypeReaL you will get mad as he has such good control.

As said, it was all assuming perfect control which usually only very top pros such as MVP etc have. Happy is extraordinary for example in controlling his army in lategame. Anyways I don't want to discuss balance here, as I personally think the game is developing as it should be.

just to clarify: im terran and i agreed with you. "tvp is hard". i also play toss and zerg quite often but i wont express my opinion on protoss further because id get banned and it doesnt belong here.

heros army is so small once again i dont understand
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 19 2012 02:01 GMT
#127
HerO has too much probes, he cannot fight ThorZains army if he has nearly 90 probes against ~55 scvs.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:03:45
February 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#128
haha^
thorzain pissed
so much easier to take bases in that situation for protoss, just put 8 cannons and a templar, a pf is never that safe..
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
February 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#129
hero is so frustrating to play against =D
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#130
Ahh... damn
Logic is Overrated
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#131
Gahh, at least try to win an engagement... TT.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
VTFlow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#132
soo well played herO
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#133
ThorZaIN!!!!

This will be awesome :D
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#134
gg cauz no vikings
yo
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#135
lol hero has to be more willing to trade armies.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#136
wow, I would've fought that game out. lucky engagement and he could've won.
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#137
wth..ThorZaiN needed to use the restroom?
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#138
if this was idra, thread would hit 20 pages after that gg
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:04:50
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#139
Calm is such a bad Map. Very hard to take and hold bases for Terran here. No way for Thorzain to take out Heros bases in the buttom.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#140
Hero had like double the bases as he did the first game, its not really comparable.
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