EPTspoon terran spooning his way to the first win.
[IPL] FC11: HerO vs ThorZaIN - Page 6
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
spoon terran spooning his way to the first win. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
Boring at times, but really insightful | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote: What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^ ROFL, exactly right. Both sides are imba depending on who you talk to. Hero did really well, but eventually those base harass tactics were just massively inefficient. GJ Thorzain! | ||
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how2TL
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:39 tree.hugger wrote: What a wild game. Neither seems sure which side of a maxed PvT battle is imba right now. ^^ I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements. Thing is, 1 observer surviving and you losing your ghosts can switch everything back to Protoss and if Protoss did bank money and won the engagement, you are dead as Terran. Its all just a control-war I think. In Beta it was just army a-move into army a-move, now its VERY VERY sick control and map awareness. I really think which WAY its going, yet I think the match up is so fragile, you can win a lost game or lose a won game in an instant. | ||
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AysiktiriX
358 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:42 MCDayC wrote: ROFL, exactly right. Both sides are imba depending on who you talk to. Hero did really well, but eventually those base harass tactics were just massively inefficient. GJ Thorzain! I think the base harasses were effective... the zealot attacks into planetaries though... | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:41 teddyoojo wrote: no. there should be no way in the world protoss should lose a 200 vs 200 fight with 40 useless viking supply. Ghosts son.... but in all seriousness, this kind of does goto show how powerful Ghosts are. Snipe and emp nullifies templar and archons, with the mass vikings stopping him from even making collosi.... and with no AoE damage gateway armies will just straight up die to stimmed bio, even with all of that supply dumped into vikings and ghosts. I think this is surprising to people only because so many Terrans have been complaining about late game PvT, when really its fairly balanced at the moment. | ||
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RyF
Austria508 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:40 Kira__ wrote: spooned indeed. incredible patience by thorzain. so many good decisions mad by him. best one was when he did not go for the baserace in the end, beeing aware of the fact that hero is not mining as well and by having the stronger army. heros army has never been that strong becuz he was split up nearly all game and thorzain keeping his vikings alive all game so fukin good... | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:42 how2TL wrote: Late templar to the fight lost that game The templar were denied by the vikings since HerO was going for WP HT drops. He probably should have just kept the templar on the ground and tried to storm what he could. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:41 teddyoojo wrote: no. there should be no way in the world protoss should lose a 200 vs 200 fight with 40 useless viking supply. he rightclicked on the prism with the templars in it because it was way more important than 3 collossus It wasn't 20 vikings, but even if so - Terran has less scvs due to mules which leads to general 'bigger' army supply. If you can nullifie Protoss AoE (Templar, Archon, Colossi) which all works with Ghost/Viking you are very good to go. Also cloaked ghosts cannot be attacked if you have no obs (dying to vikings)) so yeah, its just very possible :-)! Watch EmpireHappy play, he nearly never loses TvP engagements^^! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:44 HolyArrow wrote: The templar were denied by the vikings since HerO was going for WP HT drops. He probably should have just kept the templar on the ground and tried to storm what he could. Id love to see him storm shit with >20 ghosts in that army and vikings/scans for vision | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:42 StarVe wrote: Noooo, Calm! Hopefully Thorzain goes for proxy 2rax. Ohh yeaaahhh! | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:45 Cyro wrote: Id love to see him storm shit with >20 ghosts in that army and vikings/scans for vision Better than the WP coming in after his ground army is already dead  | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On February 19 2012 10:43 Type|NarutO wrote: I think with a 'good' engagement and army control, the Terran lategame with 24 ghosts, ~14 vikings and the rest bio + medivacs is nearly impossible to beat. You need to scan and kill the observers so the cloaked ghosts survive (move them into the Protoss army, so they don't suffer AoE from Colossus. Vikings with damage upgrades take down colossi really fast and yeah... thats when you have PERFECT engagements. well. thats why its so unbelievably hard to win tvp in high master/casual gm. | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Kira__
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
Goddammit you casters -.- | ||
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