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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:25 Phobbers wrote: No one said they would roll him ezpz, no one is denying that Stephano is Code S caliber. Stop making things up to support your terrible arguments and bias. I don't think stephano is code s quality. I'd need to see him more against koreans. He's a top foreigner no doubt, and probably best foreigner, but I'm not ready to even call him code A quality yet without more evidence of facing quality opponents. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
...no it isn't. Stephano is 0-5 against MC, and Genius played the best PvZ in the world right up until the Code S finals, where he kind of fell apart. Even then, he still came fairly close to beating DRG in a Bo7, dying on Crossfire in the end. Anyone contemplating Stephano defeating either MC or Genius in anything other than a cross-server Bo1 is delusional. | ||
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Sikly
United States413 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:24 Benjamin80 wrote: Its becuase they dont understand how a foreigner player can do this without korean training. Stephano got so many koreans fans in the short time when he was in Korea.Play XP was goign crazy about him. All the best Koreans have sayd so many times Stephano is easy a code S player but still people cant belive it. He isn't an easy code S player. You are a fool if you believe that. Stephano is EASILY top 3 foreigner, arguably the best foreigner. He MIGHT, if he has lucky brackets, be able to qualify for code A. He is not a code S player. He has the potential to be a code S player, but right now he isn't. I'm sorry, the Koreans are actually that much better than the foreigners. The Koreans respect Stephano because they know they can't walk into a tourney and fuck around and smash him, but that doesn't mean they think he'd beat them. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think stephano is code s quality. I'd need to see him more against koreans. He's a top foreigner no doubt, and probably best foreigner, but I'm not ready to even call him code A quality yet without more evidence of facing quality opponents. You should marry Seraphone. You would be a perfect couple. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think stephano is code s quality. I'd need to see him more against koreans. He's a top foreigner no doubt, and probably best foreigner, but I'm not ready to even call him code A quality yet without more evidence of facing quality opponents. that is some level of code S you got there buddy | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:22 Dimenus wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think pushes like that are as viable because the maps are so much bigger now. Warp gates! I see Protoss making the same mistake when doing warp gate pushes all the time, which is letting a single probe go off and make a pylon before pushing. Zerg scouts for that and counters it all the time. Why not just bring a probe with the army and force the Pylon to go up? | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:27 Nachtwind wrote: polt says stephano is a genious right? It's spelled genius, genius :p and yes, he did mention something like that. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:25 Perseverance wrote: Koreans say they respect tons of players they can beat. Hell, plenty of koreans have said that they respect idra in the passed and then have gone on to roll him. It's called professionalism and being humble. They respected IdrA in the past when he was a Code S quality player. They respect Stephano today because he is very good and you can see it from his play. The thing that Stephano has that very few foreigners have is what people used to call star sense. His great decision making and flexibility is what's missing from many foreigners' play. Take a guy like IdrA - he plays one style well but if he doesn't know the build he's facing or if he's called upon to make a snap decision, he fails hard, and that's the same for other foreigners. Stephano, by contrast, makes amazing decisions in clutch situations. His last game vs. Grubby is just another showcase of that. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:27 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think stephano is code s quality. I'd need to see him more against koreans. He's a top foreigner no doubt, and probably best foreigner, but I'm not ready to even call him code A quality yet without more evidence of facing quality opponents. Exactly. Until Stephano actually tries Code A, then you can't call him Code A/S material until then. Remember when everyone kept saying that Naniwa is/was best foreigner and could roll over Koreans no problem? He tries his luck at Code A.... the rest is history. | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:28 Otolia wrote: You should marry Seraphone. You would be a perfect couple. Seraphone is banned. I'm sorry T__T that marriage is impossible. | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:29 Azarkon wrote: They respected IdrA in the past when he was a Code S quality player. They respect Stephano today because he is a very good and you can see it from his play. The thing that Stephano has that very few foreigners have is what people used to call star sense. His great decision making and flexibility is what's missing from many foreigners' play. Take a guy like IdrA - he plays one style well but if he doesn't know the build he's facing or if he's called upon to make a snap decision, he fails hard, and that's the same for other foreigners. Stephano, by contrast, makes amazing decisions in clutch situations. His last game vs. Grubby is just another showcase of that. This is something I can definitely agree with. Idra does a lot of dumb things, stephano does not. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:17 Koshi wrote: Can some1 give me the Twitters of those casters on stream 2? chiquecira if I had to guess.... https://twitter.com/eonshikeno https://twitter.com/kibbelz I think those are the two. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:29 trinxified wrote: Exactly. Until Stephano actually tries Code A, then you can't call him Code A/S material until then. Remember when everyone kept saying that Naniwa is/was best foreigner and could roll over Koreans no problem? He tries his luck at Code A.... the rest is history. Actually, it was only after Naniwa failed in Code A that he went on to beat MVP and Nestea at MLG. If the rest is history, you need to study that subject more. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:29 SeaSwift wrote: Seraphone is banned. I'm sorry T__T that marriage is impossible. I can think of one way for them to be joined together again  | ||
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Kahlgar
411 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:28 SeaSwift wrote: ...no it isn't. Stephano is 0-5 against MC, and Genius played the best PvZ in the world right up until the Code S finals, where he kind of fell apart. Even then, he still came fairly close to beating DRG in a Bo7, dying on Crossfire in the end. Anyone contemplating Stephano defeating either MC or Genius in anything other than a cross-server Bo1 is delusional. 5 games are far from being a meaningful sample size, and if you're actually suggesting that Stephano has no shot at winning a bo3 against Genius or MC, you're prolly a lot more delusional than any Stephano fanboy | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:29 trinxified wrote: Exactly. Until Stephano actually tries Code A, then you can't call him Code A/S material until then. Remember when everyone kept saying that Naniwa is/was best foreigner and could roll over Koreans no problem? He tries his luck at Code A.... the rest is history. lol, naniwa beat nestea and MVP, I don't know who you have to beat to be code S quality but I'd say those two dudes would be a good start | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:28 Otolia wrote: You should marry Seraphone. You would be a perfect couple. impossible Seraphone was just banned by TheMango. That account was created on 2012-01-10 10:26:43 and had 1219 posts. Reason: oh well, guess you didn't learn. Bye. | ||
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