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give.ViviD
Sweden235 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:23 WiljushkA wrote: this is what i hate about tvz, terran can make a dozen micro mistakes, lose 5 drops without doing any damage, and still easily be in the game, but one missclick from zerg is an autoloss (see killers mutalisk loss). Losing mutalisks on a misclick is the equivalent of getting caught unsieged and losing all your tanks. Losing drops is equivalent to losing lings. It's the exact same for both races, you can sacrifice some units but you have to not misclick the core of your army. Nothing to hate in this imo. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:23 WiljushkA wrote: this is what i hate about tvz, terran can make a dozen micro mistakes, lose 5 drops without doing any damage, and still easily be in the game, but one missclick from zerg is an autoloss (see killers mutalisk loss). I can't deal with this after the TvP / PvT in the GSL thread earlier in the day but in short... Donating en masse units with 100 gas to the opponent loses you games. Losing eight 50 mineral units in a 100 gas unit isn't game changing. Having all your tanks (gas units) unsieged will lose you the game as Terran. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:25 Shikyo wrote: Robert Simpson? Really? =S I wonder how that'll go... It will be f***ing awesome  | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:21 mvtaylor wrote: Supernova and Killer taking turns to throw this game away :/ Not sure how a 5 base Zerg is having such problems against a 3 base Terran. When was Supernova at any point throwing away the game...? He seemed like he was leading the whole game. | ||
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gh0un
601 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:21 mvtaylor wrote: Supernova and Killer taking turns to throw this game away :/ Not sure how a 5 base Zerg is having such problems against a 3 base Terran. 5 hatch zerg != 5 base zerg He had 5 hatches at bases but he never really had drones at a base other than his main and his natural. He had a few here and there, but they got picked off by banshees and helions and overall just couldnt really mine. This was also reflected in his supply, he was never ahead in supply whole game long. | ||
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:23 WiljushkA wrote: this is what i hate about tvz, terran can make a dozen micro mistakes, lose 5 drops without doing any damage, and still easily be in the game, but one missclick from zerg is an autoloss (see killers mutalisk loss). But not having 2 or 3 tanks protected and them getting picked off by mutalisks is the zerg skill? Really why are all Zergs whining all the time, I don't get it lol | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:23 WiljushkA wrote: this is what i hate about tvz, terran can make a dozen micro mistakes, lose 5 drops without doing any damage, and still easily be in the game, but one missclick from zerg is an autoloss (see killers mutalisk loss). Huh, that's a really silly thing to say... I mean if the Z is super far ahead then he indeed can also suicide a ton of stuff and it doesn't even matter. It's got nothing to do with the races, it's got to do with being ahead. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:26 Bommes wrote: But not having 2 or 3 tanks protected and them getting picked off by mutalisks is the zerg skill and no skill involved? Really why are all Zergs whining all the time, I don't get it lol Take a look at the GSL LR thread and see some terran tears | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:26 Megabuster123 wrote: When was Supernova at any point throwing away the game...? He seemed like he was leading the whole game. Being in a fantastic position (but on creep) and then loading up 16 marines in to two medivacs with mutas nearby was... short sighted. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:18 Shawngood wrote: Thank you for your feedback. We will be overhauling the mappool for the World Championship. For this tournament we held the qualifiers with this mappol and we don't just change the mappool between qualifiers and the actual event. What we did do (compared to IEM Kiev) is change Antiga to the current GSL version (no gold, no close spawn) and change Metalopolis to no longer have a gold expansion. All players I talked to were okay with gold expansions on The Shattered Temple (even Zerg players). I understand that our mappool isn't ideal but the players here are actually okay with it. Please don't make it a bigger deal than it actually is and enjoy the games instead.  Shawn you really shouldn't worry about what was played in the qualifier. The quality of your main tournament is #1 importance. Consistency is important as well, but consistency shouldn't be upheld over a dramatic decline in quality. Maps are one of the keypoints of your tournaments and you need to strive for perfection. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:28 mvtaylor wrote: Being in a fantastic position (but on creep) and then loading up 16 marines in to two medivacs with mutas nearby was... short sighted. Yeah that was a bit of a fuck up, but I felt by that point he had a firm lead that unless Killer did something drastic it was basically over. | ||
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LCD
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gh0un
601 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:25 MrCon wrote: Losing mutalisks on a misclick is the equivalent of getting caught unsieged and losing all your tanks. Not really. Losing all tanks means you lost your support unit, but the backbone of the army still stands, and thats the marine. Even if terran loses all marines and tanks, its not easy to kill a terran off in his simcity base, except if you have an overwhelming number of mutalisks. As long as terran kept up in economy, a lost marine tank army is just that, a lost army. If terran is pushing you and you lose all your mutas with a missclick its over, he can finish zerg off easily. | ||
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FrinkTv
United States5 Posts
On February 09 2012 00:25 Confuzzled wrote: when is DeMu going to play? I.e the second group? Edit: nvm i'm retarded You're not retarded, you're just confuzzled. | ||
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GrazerRinge
999 Posts
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
I mean I adblock just about everything, ESL is one of the only tournaments where I watch commercials. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10825 Posts
And with that half your army. All your map control. All your harass potential. And basically the game because you can't stall anymore (until/unless you got a serious Infestor count). Losing tank isn't fun either, but they do not tend to fly over a Thor or a ball of Marines out of "accident" .It's clearly the Zergs fault when it happens, but it's just a horrible feeling ^^ | ||
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