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On February 05 2012 18:04 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 18:02 Severian wrote:
DRG always has enough larvae to remax when he trades. If I'm not mistaken, he had three macro hatches, one in each his main natural and third, plus his 4th and 5th base. So that's 8 hatches.
You're right, drg seems to make more macro hatches than any other zerg. I don't think there were extra queens with them, they were just there to make sure queens never had excess energy.
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On February 05 2012 18:05 Isaac wrote:
What does it mean that FXOpen sponsors MMA? I'm assuming its NOT the player.
Mixed martial arts. Not the player :p
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On February 05 2012 18:06 milesfacade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 18:04 Oboeman wrote:On February 05 2012 18:02 Severian wrote:
DRG always has enough larvae to remax when he trades. If I'm not mistaken, he had three macro hatches, one in each his main natural and third, plus his 4th and 5th base. So that's 8 hatches. You're right, drg seems to make more macro hatches than any other zerg. I don't think there were extra queens with them, they were just there to make sure queens never had excess energy.
I really like his mass macro hatch as it gets harder and harder to keep up on injects as you go into late game
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On February 05 2012 18:03 GreatestThreat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 18:00 ragnorr wrote:On February 05 2012 17:52 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 05 2012 17:47 ragnorr wrote:On February 05 2012 17:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 05 2012 17:45 GreatestThreat wrote:On February 05 2012 17:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 05 2012 17:35 GreatestThreat wrote:On February 05 2012 17:25 ragnorr wrote:On February 05 2012 17:19 GreatestThreat wrote:
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Any build that takes zero micro to win should not exist. That's terrible game design. Also ad hominem attacks don't make you witty. The build worked because july handled it terrible. Not sending in a huge wave of zerglings to finish off 15 marines? Instead he rallied his zerglings in a congo line to die. He made 0 banelings except for 3 which blew up on like 1 marine. Should game design take into account of people playing terrible It's possible you're right but what other strategy in the game by zerg or protoss can make a player roll over and die with a one-unit army composition and no micro? don't you remember Stephano wrecking face with his mass zergling build? Stephano's mass zergling infestor build you mean. That also was effective because his micro is sick. He would win with just mass zerglings. And it wasn't due to micro. Polt won because July made Muta's and not banelings. Simple as that. He would have won if he wouldnt have send in his zerglings 10 at a time into 13 marines Well no shit sherlock. 13 marines cost way more than 10 lings. If Polt ran in 13 marines to 10 banelings, he wouldn't have won. Yes but the whole problem with julys attacks wasent his awefull unit comp, it was his idea of constantly sending in a small army the whole time to get easily picked off which lost him the game Except that Polt had a constant stream of marines rallied across the map and zerglings trade better against them in smaller numbers??? Let me personally clear up that I don't think July lost because of imbalance. I think the game was terrible to watch because of imbalance and it could have been much more interesting if marines weren't such a retarded unit.
Or if July played correctly... Marines being imba had nothing to do with that game being terrible.
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On February 05 2012 17:42 GreatestThreat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 17:38 Applesqt wrote:On February 05 2012 17:35 GreatestThreat wrote:On February 05 2012 17:25 ragnorr wrote:On February 05 2012 17:19 GreatestThreat wrote:On February 05 2012 17:18 Chunhyang wrote:On February 05 2012 17:16 GreatestThreat wrote:
I almost never balance whine, but if that build isn't a blatant abuse of how overpowered marines/mules are in combination I don't know what is. Polt didn't even micro, he literally a-moved off a rally point and pressed stim a couple times. Just lol. Congratulations, you're very good at it. It must be a natural talent. Any build that takes zero micro to win should not exist. That's terrible game design. Also ad hominem attacks don't make you witty. The build worked because july handled it terrible. Not sending in a huge wave of zerglings to finish off 15 marines? Instead he rallied his zerglings in a congo line to die. He made 0 banelings except for 3 which blew up on like 1 marine. Should game design take into account of people playing terrible It's possible you're right but what other strategy in the game by zerg or protoss can make a player roll over and die with a one-unit army composition and no micro? Archons Archons cost 300 gas apiece and are late game tech. You really can't compare the two.
All you asked was 1 unit that without micro that can make another player die.
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I wasn't paying too much attention, but was DRG running his lings into the wall in order to stop Oz from canceling the second Gate and replacing it with the Core? Would explain why he ignored the Probe.
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What happened to the stream?
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Thar she blows!
Nice timing on the quick 3rd by Oz. He seems to know how DRG likes to play ZvP.
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This day went so fast. And now when I tune in stream dies
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On February 05 2012 18:14 Rampager wrote:
Thar she blows!
Nice timing on the quick 3rd by Oz. He seems to know how DRG likes to play ZvP.
Yeah but just wondering (honestly, since I play neither P or Z), how does Z stop that. After going hatch gasless and Oz donating away those zlots (and the chrono on them) you'd think DRG would be a little ahead but Oz then just took a 3rd off of 5 sentries and walled off with a cannon.
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Hahahaha, gotta love when casters just momentary lose focus.
Wolf: "Warping in a bunch of units going for the fourth!"
Unstable: "Mmhmm"
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Unstable: "Couple of units at the fourth!!"
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game went downhill
when drg tried that dual pronged attack and failed to snipe nexus
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On February 05 2012 18:19 teamamerica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 18:14 Rampager wrote:
Thar she blows!
Nice timing on the quick 3rd by Oz. He seems to know how DRG likes to play ZvP. Yeah but just wondering (honestly, since I play neither P or Z), how does Z stop that. After going hatch gasless and Oz donating away those zlots (and the chrono on them) you'd think DRG would be a little ahead but Oz then just took a 3rd off of 5 sentries and walled off with a cannon.
You drop lings in his main base while you hit the third.
obviously!
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This is a really well produced tournament, if it had a couple more foreigners and wasn't at 4 AM eastern I think you'd get a lot more notice.
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On February 05 2012 18:20 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 18:19 teamamerica wrote:On February 05 2012 18:14 Rampager wrote:
Thar she blows!
Nice timing on the quick 3rd by Oz. He seems to know how DRG likes to play ZvP. Yeah but just wondering (honestly, since I play neither P or Z), how does Z stop that. After going hatch gasless and Oz donating away those zlots (and the chrono on them) you'd think DRG would be a little ahead but Oz then just took a 3rd off of 5 sentries and walled off with a cannon. You drop lings in his main base while you hit the third. obviously!
Lol Oboe you would say that. Is that seriously viable at that time? o.O Stop dodging me and play more 2s w/ me btw ._.
btw: always wondered, can you do game winning damage with 10pool speedlings vs nexus first?
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On February 05 2012 18:24 teamamerica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 18:20 Oboeman wrote:On February 05 2012 18:19 teamamerica wrote:On February 05 2012 18:14 Rampager wrote:
Thar she blows!
Nice timing on the quick 3rd by Oz. He seems to know how DRG likes to play ZvP. Yeah but just wondering (honestly, since I play neither P or Z), how does Z stop that. After going hatch gasless and Oz donating away those zlots (and the chrono on them) you'd think DRG would be a little ahead but Oz then just took a 3rd off of 5 sentries and walled off with a cannon. You drop lings in his main base while you hit the third. obviously! Lol Oboe you would say that. Is that seriously viable at that time? o.O Stop dodging me and play more 2s w/ me btw ._.
If you upgrade drops pretty shortly after lair, instead of going double roach warren, then yes it is very viable. at least... it works for me.
btw: always wondered, can you do game winning damage with 10pool speedlings vs nexus first?
Yeah you would kill nexus first, but normal protoss (not Oz) will pylon scout, see your pool, and go forge first.
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