On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote: Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.
3 layers? like 6 bunkers...
It seems like 4 bunkers is easily died to this push...
Umm, bunkers are VERY bad against this, you need DPS most of all. If the protoss pushes in correctly at the right angle getting some bunkers up really doesn't do much because they do in like 1 shot to immortals. It's better to make a bunker walloff and have all your units behind tbh.
Then, toss just forcefields to cut your army I really wonder how u could hold this push, because i lose to this push very much lately ...
Flanking might be worth trying.
then he forcefields away the flank and just kills the other half?
On February 02 2012 19:54 SpicyCheese wrote: lol... if MVP is much better then why does he always lose to MMA. Artosis confuses me sometimes
So by your logic polt is better than MMA. but anyone with common sense knows thats not the case.
Umm MMA has played MVP in bo7, bo5, and another bo5 in Geforce ProAM defeating him CONVINCINGLY every time, with the only time that MVP won was at MLG where he was already ahead in extended series anyway.... Also these were all pretty much during MVP's prime. If ur saying MVP was better then he should at least have won some of those sets right? Or at least make them close( which they were all one sided ). The Polt MMA games are pretty much one series of build order, where MMA wasn't even in his prime form and Polt has just sunk into the abyss.
MVP has beat millions of other players who has beaten MMA. Just because MMA beats MVP in head to head confrontations dosen't make MVP the weaker overall player. Achievements don't lie. MVP status as best player should not be debated until he shows poor form for a few months and someone else takes over.
Hmm so MVP not winning GSL since August and MMA winning the past 2 GSLs means nothing to u I guess...
I wouldn't count Blizzard cup as GSL and if I remember right the reason why MMA/Polt were at Blizzard Cup because MVP won too much too. MMA is great player but he doesn't achieve as much as MVP.
Blizzard cup was an invite only tournament featuring two players that clearly didn't deserve to be there (Stephano and Naniwa). It doesn't count.
Blizzard Cup was not an invite tourney it was a tourney you had to qualify for by winning other tourneys.
Stephano and NaNiwa both earned their spots in the Blizzard Cup
And yet MMA didn't really earn his spot in Blizz Cup. It was only because MVP had so many spots that others got a chance. It was a handout.
On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote: Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.
Like 9 bunkers?Might work, then again the protoss might get a third and double forge in response and you lose anyways.
Is anyone counting how many PvT games puzzle won with 6-7 gate/immortal? I think its hovering around 7 out of 10.
I hope more protoss abuse this immortal timings until something gets nerfed/buffed to deal with it. As it stands, a terran can't beat a protoss of equal level if the protoss does it right.
On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote: Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.
3 layers? like 6 bunkers...
It seems like 4 bunkers is easily died to this push...
Umm, bunkers are VERY bad against this, you need DPS most of all. If the protoss pushes in correctly at the right angle getting some bunkers up really doesn't do much because they do in like 1 shot to immortals. It's better to make a bunker walloff and have all your units behind tbh.
Then, toss just forcefields to cut your army I really wonder how u could hold this push, because i lose to this push very much lately ...
I never said you shouldn't have any bunkers, but if you put them in and the protoss attacks you correctly the units in the bunkers will be cut off and focused anyway very quickly.
On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote: Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.
Like 9 bunkers?Might work, then again the protoss might get a third and double forge in response and you lose anyways.
Is anyone counting how many PvT games puzzle won with 6-7 gate/immortal? I think its hovering around 7 out of 10.
On February 02 2012 19:54 SpicyCheese wrote: lol... if MVP is much better then why does he always lose to MMA. Artosis confuses me sometimes
So by your logic polt is better than MMA. but anyone with common sense knows thats not the case.
Umm MMA has played MVP in bo7, bo5, and another bo5 in Geforce ProAM defeating him CONVINCINGLY every time, with the only time that MVP won was at MLG where he was already ahead in extended series anyway.... Also these were all pretty much during MVP's prime. If ur saying MVP was better then he should at least have won some of those sets right? Or at least make them close( which they were all one sided ). The Polt MMA games are pretty much one series of build order, where MMA wasn't even in his prime form and Polt has just sunk into the abyss.
MVP has beat millions of other players who has beaten MMA. Just because MMA beats MVP in head to head confrontations dosen't make MVP the weaker overall player. Achievements don't lie. MVP status as best player should not be debated until he shows poor form for a few months and someone else takes over.
Hmm so MVP not winning GSL since August and MMA winning the past 2 GSLs means nothing to u I guess...
I wouldn't count Blizzard cup as GSL and if I remember right the reason why MMA/Polt were at Blizzard Cup because MVP won too much too. MMA is great player but he doesn't achieve as much as MVP.
Blizzard cup was an invite only tournament featuring two players that clearly didn't deserve to be there (Stephano and Naniwa). It doesn't count.
Are you fucking trolling? Blizzard Cup was like the hardest thing ever! All the champions fighting each other. How did Stephano and Naniwa not deserve to be there? Naniwa earned his spot at Blizzcon beating the likes of Nestea and Mvp... and Stephano, well he's the best foreigner and is clearly Code S material, and he won so much things.... You are a freakin douche.
LOL when did naniwa beat mvp and nestea at blizzcon that was the mlg providence invitational thing so get your facts straight.
On February 02 2012 20:13 bennyaus wrote: Lots of toss do these immortal pushes ^^ Need a marine heavier composition and like 3 layers of bunkers to be able to hold it.
3 layers? like 6 bunkers...
It seems like 4 bunkers is easily died to this push...
Umm, bunkers are VERY bad against this, you need DPS most of all. If the protoss pushes in correctly at the right angle getting some bunkers up really doesn't do much because they do in like 1 shot to immortals. It's better to make a bunker walloff and have all your units behind tbh.
Then, toss just forcefields to cut your army I really wonder how u could hold this push, because i lose to this push very much lately ...
Flanking might be worth trying.
then he forcefields away the flank and just kills the other half?
I didn't say it's the solution. And you can retreat if he forcefieds one half of your army. This push is not so good once the protoss has no more forcefields no?
EPT
I really wonder how u could hold this push, because i lose to this push very much lately ...
