EPT[IEM] Kiev - Day 1 - Page 121
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Please try not to bash players, casters, countries, races, users, balance, apple pie, etc. in the Live Report threads. These threads are not meant for bashing. | ||
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:03 Elefanto wrote: Not in that situation. He completely missed his Hive transition timing. He had Nightend contained on 3 bases for so long, if he sieges Nightend 3 bases with BL / Infestor before Nightend can break out and take a 4th or 5th he wins. It was just bad. That's the difficulty with going mutas, it takes a while to transition out of them. NightEnD wasn't really contained, he never even tried to move out, because he knew he didn't need to. All he needed to do was make it to 200/200, and that Zenio's hive transition would be difficult because he went mutas. His harass with the warp prism wasn't stellar at first, but it did the job, and gave NightEnD enough time to assert himself. Zenio didn't have a huge opportunity to go broodlords, if he had, he would've needed to morph them back home, lose two bases, and then find some way to push across the map really slowly. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:06 ceaRshaf wrote: MC is blamed cause he goes for 2 bases, Nigtend cause he goes for 3 bases. Any protoss bids more out there? NaNi gets blamed for going one base or two base! Other protoss players need to step it up :p | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:07 KimJongChill wrote: Hmm, this map is hard for toss right ? MC wins a lot on it vs zerg, with you guessed it, a 2 base timing attack. | ||
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:07 KimJongChill wrote: Hmm, this map is hard for toss right ? You either do a strong 2 base push (or if you are zerg, allin) or you are basically fucked as protoss v zerg. | ||
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
Shall Nightend be returning the cheese? | ||
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qbs
Poland771 Posts
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gwixter
Slovakia336 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:04 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Naniwa?Just were thinking about Top 6 European team with Kas, Thorzain, Stephano, Nerchio, Mana and SaSe  | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:07 Fragile51 wrote: NaNi gets blamed for going one base or two base! Other protoss players need to step it up :p Hero always goes for at least 4 bases. | ||
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:07 tree.hugger wrote: That's the difficulty with going mutas, it takes a while to transition out of them. NightEnD wasn't really contained, he never even tried to move out, because he knew he didn't need to. All he needed to do was make it to 200/200, and that Zenio's hive transition would be difficult because he went mutas. His harass with the warp prism wasn't stellar at first, but it did the job, and gave NightEnD enough time to assert himself. Zenio didn't have a huge opportunity to go broodlords, if he had, he would've needed to morph them back home, lose two bases, and then find some way to push across the map really slowly. Zenio was also banking 3k minerals/gas which isn't very ideal. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
How dare he! | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:03 Elefanto wrote: Not in that situation. He completely missed his Hive transition timing. He had Nightend contained on 3 bases for so long, if he sieges Nightend 3 bases with BL / Infestor before Nightend can break out and take a 4th or 5th he wins. It was just bad. i agree there is basically a couple of ways the game will go after mutas a) protoss turtles on 2 base and gets late 3 -> you are ahead in macro and tech -> repeatedly thrust your roaches at him or mass infested terrans over wall of at natural/third and then fly in with mutas / siege base with BL and some infestors b) protoss takes quicker third and loses tons of probes -> you stabilize and are ahead in macro -> same as a zenio also didn't creep spread with zergling/baneling/ultra and didnt ever use baneling drops into army, which of course would be hard but he didnt even try it on the mineral lines with one sacrifice overlord for the cannons and if he wanted to use ultras so badly, at least keep the colossi away with a couple of corrupters over the huge cliffs beside 3rd bases and use neural on archons (which is sick good) | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
Hongun goes for three bases without taking his third. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:07 Fragile51 wrote: NaNi gets blamed for going one base or two base! Other protoss players need to step it up :p 1 base in PvP and 2 base in other matchups yes. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Whalecore
Norway1111 Posts
On January 20 2012 06:06 ceaRshaf wrote: MC is blamed cause he goes for 2 bases, Nigtend cause he goes for 3 bases. Any protoss bids more out there? Dude we all know there are only two ways to play Protoss: - Cheesy one base/two base all-in. - Boring turtle death ball style. Both styles require no micro and game understanding. Just ask Idra! | ||
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