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On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em.
We've been testing them for several months in different tournaments, and are continuing to do so.
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On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em.
What are leagues supposed to do then? Just use the same maps forever? Someone has to introduce maps..
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On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em.
Cause using maps no one uses vs the same old generic maps that have been played to death is a terrible idea I hear ya. Honestly though these new maps will be fun to watch im ooking forward to it. I would rather watch new maps in action vs those on like Xel'Naga or even my favorite map of all time Metalopolis 
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Also Xeris,
4PL Pro League (team league) playoffs are during the second qualifier time so the European teams that can't play in the first one also might not be able to play in the second one.
Millenium, ESC, Acer and imba.FXO are at the 4PL Pro League finals during Jan. 14-15. ALL FOUR OF THESE TEAMS have players at HSC IV... meaning during the first qualifier.
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Sucks that our best player is at HomeStory Cup IV right now ):
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On January 04 2012 03:27 mki wrote:Also Xeris, 4PL Pro League (team league) playoffs are during the second qualifier time so the European teams that can't play in the first one also might not be able to play in the second one. Millenium, ESC, Acer and imba.FXO are at the 4PL Pro League finals during Jan. 14-15. ALL FOUR OF THESE TEAMS have players at HSC IV... meaning during the first qualifier.
Dunno what to tell ya, there's really not much I can do unfortunately. We have a schedule that we need to follow.
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signed up, hope its not too late yet
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On January 04 2012 07:43 kaOz1985 wrote:
signed up, hope its not too late yet
You have until friday
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On January 04 2012 00:22 Mereel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. do u want to play metalopolis and xel naga caverns for the next 3 years or what? i thought a former bw player would understand that there needs to be change at some point
On January 04 2012 02:09 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. What are leagues supposed to do then? Just use the same maps forever? Someone has to introduce maps..
That's a very flawed perspective and a terrible response. He is not saying anything about using the same map pool forever. He is asking about the drastic change in maps. There is a big difference between how most tournaments add new maps and what the NASL is doing.
Whether you agree with strelok or not, it seems pretty silly to reply to his concerns with "WELL DO YOU WANT TO ALWAYS USE THE SAME MAPS FOREVER!? I DIDNT THINK SO! WE CANT ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME MAPS", because he is not advocating the use of the same maps forever.
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sick, wish i could play in it : (
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How are you going to schedule 8 players who may be scattered across the world? Will all the games be played on the same day, and will they be cast live/as-live?
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On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em.
I think you are going to have to get used to the different tournaments having a few of their own maps for a while if a universal map pool is never created. IPL's team league has three new maps and esl is partnered with map of the month to use the winner of that now.
Might have to just practice for whatever you are playing in next.
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On January 04 2012 02:08 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. We've been testing them for several months in different tournaments, and are continuing to do so.
which tournaments are you talking about? I've never seen a game played on any of those maps, by anybody
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I for one am happy to see new maps, they look awesome and I'm sure they will make for interesting games. Will the qualifiers be broadcasted? If so, who will be casting them?
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I think the fact that NASL are introducing new maps is awesome, its completely necessary. However, I don't understand why you are using exclusively new maps, I think a balanced pool of old and new would be better. That being said, new maps are still better in general than old maps.
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On January 04 2012 09:27 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 02:08 Xeris wrote:On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. We've been testing them for several months in different tournaments, and are continuing to do so. which tournaments are you talking about? I've never seen a game played on any of those maps, by anybody
NASL Open 1 , NASL Open 2 , NASL Semi Open ... there have been over a hundred games played on the maps, they've undergone balance changes based on pro player feedback... what other process would one go through to incorporate new maps into a league? Most of the TPW maps have won map of the month award, Ohana is pretty widely known and tested in multiple other leagues/events (even the TL map contest).
Just because you haven't followed what we've been doing with the maps doesn't mean that our process for testing / refining / and incorporating new maps hasn't been exactly the same as everyone else.
We started with 9 TPW maps, we're down to 5... we'll pick only 2-3 of the best of these for the regular season. So that's like an 8-9 month process overall to arrive at 2-3 maps. I'd say that our testing has actually been equally, or more intensive and deliberate than any other league.
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On January 04 2012 09:27 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 02:08 Xeris wrote:On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. We've been testing them for several months in different tournaments, and are continuing to do so. which tournaments are you talking about? I've never seen a game played on any of those maps, by anybody
nasl semi open
And also the open tournaments to qualify for the semi open. (Surprisingly few people wanted to play in those though)
replays and discussion where here
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On January 04 2012 10:05 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 09:27 magnaflow wrote:On January 04 2012 02:08 Xeris wrote:On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. We've been testing them for several months in different tournaments, and are continuing to do so. which tournaments are you talking about? I've never seen a game played on any of those maps, by anybody NASL Open 1 , NASL Open 2 , NASL Semi Open ... there have been over a hundred games played on the maps, they've undergone balance changes based on pro player feedback... what other process would one go through to incorporate new maps into a league? Most of the TPW maps have won map of the month award, Ohana is pretty widely known and tested in multiple other leagues/events (even the TL map contest). Just because you haven't followed what we've been doing with the maps doesn't mean that our process for testing / refining / and incorporating new maps hasn't been exactly the same as everyone else. We started with 9 TPW maps, we're down to 5... we'll pick only 2-3 of the best of these for the regular season. So that's like an 8-9 month process overall to arrive at 2-3 maps. I'd say that our testing has actually been equally, or more intensive and deliberate than any other league.
I apologize of my post sounded a little harsh, that wasn't my intention. Although I see that they have mostly been played in the NASL and I'm sorry I just don't tune into that.
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On January 04 2012 10:06 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 09:27 magnaflow wrote:On January 04 2012 02:08 Xeris wrote:On January 04 2012 00:02 Strelok wrote:
Xeris what is the reason to put absolutely new maps to such big event? Noone plays them and will play in future in any league except NASL team qualifiers. I clearly doubt any team will practise em. We've been testing them for several months in different tournaments, and are continuing to do so. which tournaments are you talking about? I've never seen a game played on any of those maps, by anybody nasl semi openAnd also the open tournaments to qualify for the semi open. (Surprisingly few people wanted to play in those though) replays and discussion where here
Those maps actually look pretty good. It will be nice to see some flavour added to the tournament scene. Thanks for the links
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