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On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better.
Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), 2rax intro into expand.
Just because you can't think outside of the box does not mean others players/fans can't either. In Korea he also is more or less one of the strongest ladder players(frequent rank 1) because of his cheesy play style.
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He isn't as good as he was back in open season, but he's still good. I mean hell, he won AOL just a few months back and made it to WCG Korea finals. He's hardly fallen into obscurity.
He's saying he will, not that he has already. He just doesn't play the game right, he makes too many bad decisions. It doesn't matter how good your micro is without having good macro or making good strategical decisions you will eventually fall by the wayside .
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On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives),
Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then?
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On January 02 2012 19:56 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then?
Agreed
(Other than TvT no-wall for the mineral mining time, TvP in some cases)
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Quick, what was that song that was JUST on? the one right before the game?
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played this on the ladder vs. terran and zerg....hate it..as zerg
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Australia18228 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:56 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then?
If the Zerg decides to run in while you're going for a economic/safer build, then they lose their map control and have to sacrifice larvae for more Zerglings.
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On January 02 2012 19:57 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:56 TheDwf wrote:On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then? If the Zerg decides to run in while you're going for a economic/safer build, then they lose their map control and have to sacrifice larvae for more Zerglings.
Don;t you lose your stuffs?
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On January 02 2012 19:55 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:52 figq wrote:
About the no-wall thing, it must be some korean meta TvZ - noticed Bomber does it often on stream. No idea why exactly. They're simply being cocky or lazy. As a Terran player, I'm glad MKP got punished hard for it. You deserve to lose that badly when you refuse to execute the basics of your race. I doubt it. My guess is they do it against zergs they know so well, they expect no early run-by, and when their build actually makes use of the saved few seconds from building closer to the minerals.
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On January 02 2012 19:55 Moskau wrote:Show nested quote +He isn't as good as he was back in open season, but he's still good. I mean hell, he won AOL just a few months back and made it to WCG Korea finals. He's hardly fallen into obscurity. He's saying he will, not that he has already. He just doesn't play the game right, he makes too many bad decisions. It doesn't matter how good your micro is without having good macro or making good strategical decisions you will eventually fall by the wayside .
"Play the game right" What? TOP has fallen out of code A and he was regarded as one of the top macro terrans in the world. Listen, if you've still been around for a year, that's essentially the entire duration of SC2. I'd say it's not the fact that marineking's style is getting more and more figured out, but more so that better and better players have entered the scene since season 1/2. Hell, everyone knows who he is yet he still holds like 75% win ratio and tops ladder season after season.
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lol so they disabled horizontal spawn on this map....
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On January 02 2012 19:57 TG Manny wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:56 TheDwf wrote:On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then? Agreed (Other than TvT no-wall for the mineral mining time, TvP in some cases)
TvP if im walling you can abuse that so easily and basically kill off the wall which is why a lot of strats dont have walls in TvP.
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On January 02 2012 19:58 TG Manny wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:57 Inflicted_ wrote:On January 02 2012 19:56 TheDwf wrote:On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then? If the Zerg decides to run in while you're going for a economic/safer build, then they lose their map control and have to sacrifice larvae for more Zerglings. Don;t you lose your stuffs?
If you're going for a economic/safer build (something like 4rax after CC), then you can kill those zerglings easily while the scouting information won't help them because you're not playing aggressive (i.e no cheese). MKP probably had no wall-in (on Dual Sight) to try scare LosirA away from scouting.
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On January 02 2012 19:55 Moskau wrote:Show nested quote +He isn't as good as he was back in open season, but he's still good. I mean hell, he won AOL just a few months back and made it to WCG Korea finals. He's hardly fallen into obscurity. He's saying he will, not that he has already. He just doesn't play the game right, he makes too many bad decisions. It doesn't matter how good your micro is without having good macro or making good strategical decisions you will eventually fall by the wayside .
Saying MKP has bad macro is quite off imo.
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OMG, just noticed entombed valley is in the pool.
What was GOM thinking???
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On January 02 2012 19:59 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 19:58 TG Manny wrote:On January 02 2012 19:57 Inflicted_ wrote:On January 02 2012 19:56 TheDwf wrote:On January 02 2012 19:55 DivinitySC2 wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 GreyKnight wrote:On January 02 2012 19:50 Moskau wrote:
This is why I never understood why people liked watching MKP play, he is the most strategically inept player in the sc2 pro scene. It's really painful to watch, now that people are actually figuring out the game hes being made to look like braindead player he is. Yeah I always hated his playstyle and see him as someone who will fade into obscurity once people just get better. Strategically inept? He modernized many of the strongest Terran openers and strategies. 1 rax expand, 1-1-1, bio splitting, no wall off(yes this is a real strategy with more positives than negatives), Oh, really? Tell us more about the positive aspects, then? If the Zerg decides to run in while you're going for a economic/safer build, then they lose their map control and have to sacrifice larvae for more Zerglings. Don;t you lose your stuffs? If you're going for a economic/safer build (something like 4rax after CC), then you can kill those zerglings easily while the scouting information won't help them because you're not playing aggressive (i.e no cheese). MKP probably had no wall-in (on Dual Sight) to try scare LosirA away from scouting.
Not only that but MKP seemed Hellion heavy.
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