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On December 20 2011 20:13 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:10 XRaDiiX wrote:On December 20 2011 20:08 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 20:07 Coolhwip wrote:On December 20 2011 20:04 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote: [quote]
From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft. You know that it's the same thing for protoss agianst terran early game. Complete guessing game. I really dont know what point you're trying to make. is it that protoss is OP or just that theres too much guessing going on in teh game in general? My point is every matchup with a protoss in it has too many gamble aspects in it, sometimes from both sides. They just totally failed to design protoss and that's why we see terrible protoss players winning against better ones and insanely good protoss players losing to scrubs. That's kind-of true with the PvP part The 4-gate thing with warp-gate mechanic seems to to still allow lesser players to beat superior players! I disagree with that. Back when 4g seemed (or was?) the only viable strategy in PvP, the winner was decided by skill (micro). Now that there's theoretically a ton of possible builds, it became a gamble.
But nobody had the chance to scout after the 4gates, so the transitions (DTs, Robo, Blink) were random and kinda rock-paper-scissoresque
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Tal'darim is one of best PvT maps for protoss. And even if matchup isn't balanced the map brings it closer to 50/50 because of long rush distance reducing the power of earlt bio pushes. I can't imagine why would a P complain about it when colossi can play the same abusive role over the cliffs, it's just the matter of air superiority.
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Seems Ninja CC will win the game. Game sense, game sense, damn, tassadar.
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On December 20 2011 20:16 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:16 Hassybaby wrote: Ooooo, look at those pretty flowers at those expansions Mountain Silversage.
And the nightmares come back again -.-
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On December 20 2011 20:17 Tantaburs wrote: does anyone else think those glowing bushs look like observers I was about to post this
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On December 20 2011 20:16 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:16 Hassybaby wrote: Ooooo, look at those pretty flowers at those expansions Mountain Silversage.
Holy crap you're right....
Gotta go gather them for my Blackwing Lair raid!
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Hmm Ryung has to make something happen before the Colossus+storm ball gets rolling
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On December 20 2011 20:18 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:17 Tantaburs wrote: does anyone else think those glowing bushs look like observers I was about to post this
i think it looks like a nirnroot!
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On December 20 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:Game Seven on Calm Before the StormIn the top left is Ryung While in the bottom left is Tassadar 4:40Starport on the way for Ryung Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar 5:40
Tassadar is taking the gas at his natural Drop on the way for Ryung 7:00
Ryung lost the drop but the hellions got into the main and did huge damage getting 13 workers Warp prism for Tassadar starting + twilight council 9:10Blink on the way for Tassadar Combat shield and stim on the way for Ryung 10:00Tassadar attacking the main of Ryung killing a supply depot and a lot of the marines using the warp prism as a forward pylon 12:20Robo bay, forge and a third base for Tassadar Ryung getting two barracks and bio+1 13:30Ghost academy and an armoury for Ryung Tassadar getting +1 and thermal 14:30Two more gates on the way for Tassadar while starting a dark shrine Mobius and 2/1 for Ryung while starting his fourth
16:40
Three gates on the way for Tassadar
DT spots the ninja third
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On December 20 2011 20:11 Zanno wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:09 Scila wrote:On December 20 2011 20:07 Zanno wrote:yeah i am actually sick of the constant crying about all-ins on teamliquid what do the korean broadcasters do when a player goes all in? they go OHHHHHHHHHHHH if everyone played a passive macro game every single game, the game would be as exciting to watch as golf Not necessarily, BW was 90% macro games and they were very, very fun to watch. It was a slow process of small harass, unit engagements and little tricks occurring all over huge maps that would slowly allow one player to get ahead, and there was much bigger potential for comebacks. i know how brood war works, thanks that doesn't change the fact that korean commentators appreciate a move that shows balls of steel, i don't understand why foreigners don't but i'm a huge july fan so maybe i'm just insane
I'm a big July fan just because I think he is a bit crazy.
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On December 20 2011 20:17 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:17 Tantaburs wrote: does anyone else think those glowing bushs look like observers Eeeeyup. They always reminded me of the Mountain Silversage icon from WoW.
Some day things will stop reminding me of that game.
lol beaten too it, stupid wow -_-
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Here! Let's just show these vikings to Tassadar before I kill this single DT!
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On December 20 2011 20:15 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:08 TheDwf wrote:On December 20 2011 20:07 TT1 wrote:On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote: So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.
edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope. From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost. Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches. Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub. You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it. na morrow didnt play worse he just got caught off guard by a luck based build, cloud just comes off extremely agressive but he means well : D No Hydras was luck or a bad decision? personal preference, morrow likes dealing with stargate openers with spores + queens because hydras are sorta bad against 2stargatge type builds cus they get picked off easily by phoenixs once theyre rallied out, instead he goes into infestors which allows him to gain map control/hit/defend timings cus the most logical follow up to stargate openers is twilight tech
hydras get picked off easily by phoenixes yes but so are infestors...and they're 3x more expensive. Also isn't the most common follow up robo-colossi build? I do understand your point though, I just can't agree with it
btw ignore the haters. I'm glad we have competitive players among us
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This series of game is rather cringe-worthy...and now add in the observer factor as well
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lil question, just opened the stream, both qualities seem to lag pretty hard hard, is it my conn. or is someone else exprerincing that ?
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Did I miss something? Why can Morrow play up/downs?
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On December 20 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:Game Seven on Calm Before the StormIn the top left is Ryung While in the bottom left is Tassadar 4:40Starport on the way for Ryung Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar 5:40
Tassadar is taking the gas at his natural Drop on the way for Ryung 7:00
Ryung lost the drop but the hellions got into the main and did huge damage getting 13 workers Warp prism for Tassadar starting + twilight council 9:10Blink on the way for Tassadar Combat shield and stim on the way for Ryung 10:00Tassadar attacking the main of Ryung killing a supply depot and a lot of the marines using the warp prism as a forward pylon 12:20Robo bay, forge and a third base for Tassadar Ryung getting two barracks and bio+1 13:30Ghost academy and an armoury for Ryung Tassadar getting +1 and thermal 14:30Two more gates on the way for Tassadar while starting a dark shrine Mobius and 2/1 for Ryung while starting his fourth 16:40Three gates on the way for Tassadar DT spots the ninja third
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Psi storm on the way for Tassadar
3/2 on the way for ryung along with another expansion
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On December 20 2011 20:19 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:17 RPR_Tempest wrote:On December 20 2011 20:17 Tantaburs wrote: does anyone else think those glowing bushs look like observers Eeeeyup. They always reminded me of the Mountain Silversage icon from WoW. Some day things will stop reminding me of that game.
That game leaves a taint on your soul for the rest of your life unfortunely.
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On December 20 2011 20:20 Skillver wrote: Did I miss something? Why can Morrow play up/downs? invited by Gom
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On December 20 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:Game Seven on Calm Before the StormIn the top left is Ryung While in the bottom left is Tassadar 4:40Starport on the way for Ryung Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar 5:40
Tassadar is taking the gas at his natural Drop on the way for Ryung 7:00
Ryung lost the drop but the hellions got into the main and did huge damage getting 13 workers Warp prism for Tassadar starting + twilight council 9:10Blink on the way for Tassadar Combat shield and stim on the way for Ryung 10:00Tassadar attacking the main of Ryung killing a supply depot and a lot of the marines using the warp prism as a forward pylon 12:20Robo bay, forge and a third base for Tassadar Ryung getting two barracks and bio+1 13:30Ghost academy and an armoury for Ryung Tassadar getting +1 and thermal 14:30Two more gates on the way for Tassadar while starting a dark shrine Mobius and 2/1 for Ryung while starting his fourth 16:40Three gates on the way for Tassadar DT spots the ninja third
18:30
Psi storm on the way for Tassadar
3/2 on the way for ryung along with another expansion [/QUOTE]
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Colossus falls
Ground armies now engaging
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