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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#1681
Tassadar blew his load too quickly
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#1682
Ryung winning is good for morrow, right?
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#1683
On December 20 2011 20:13 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:10 XRaDiiX wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:08 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:07 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:04 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:
[quote]

From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost.

Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches.


Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol

Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub.


You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it.

If he lost cause he played worse then I wouldn't be so upset about the result of the match. Still fun how people fail to realize how protoss game design is a complete failure. I'm not gonna talk about this anymore since there's too many clueless players who don't understand we're watching poker and not starcraft.


You know that it's the same thing for protoss agianst terran early game. Complete guessing game. I really dont know what point you're trying to make. is it that protoss is OP or just that theres too much guessing going on in teh game in general?

My point is every matchup with a protoss in it has too many gamble aspects in it, sometimes from both sides. They just totally failed to design protoss and that's why we see terrible protoss players winning against better ones and insanely good protoss players losing to scrubs.



That's kind-of true with the PvP part The 4-gate thing with warp-gate mechanic seems to to still allow lesser players to beat superior players!


I disagree with that. Back when 4g seemed (or was?) the only viable strategy in PvP, the winner was decided by skill (micro). Now that there's theoretically a ton of possible builds, it became a gamble.


I agree with this.

when all you could do was 4 gate it came down to who has better control now there are far more coinflip senarios
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Unreliablex
Profile Joined October 2011
141 Posts
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#1684
On December 20 2011 20:13 0ne wrote:
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On December 20 2011 20:12 Unreliablex wrote:
Yeah, tassadar is a code s player, am I rite?

He has never been in code S


I mean as he does not deserve the spot, gl hf.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#1685
Tassadar playing rubbish so far, missed ff and flying the prism straight into view -.-
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#1686
On December 20 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Game Seven on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Ryung

While in the bottom left is Tassadar

4:40


Starport on the way for Ryung

Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar

5:40

Tassadar is taking the gas at his natural

Drop on the way for Ryung

7:00

Ryung lost the drop but the hellions got into the main and did huge damage getting 13 workers

Warp prism for Tassadar starting + twilight council


9:10


Blink on the way for Tassadar

Combat shield and stim on the way for Ryung


10:00


Tassadar attacking the main of Ryung killing a supply depot and a lot of the marines using the warp prism as a forward pylon
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1687
On December 20 2011 20:13 XRaDiiX wrote:
I don't even ... understand why Tassadar just basically sacrificed his drones to those 3 hellions he had like 5-6 stalkers there to kill the hellions... he should have just throw 4-5 probes to attack them...


I think he was trying to block them, but over pulled.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1688
Lost all his sentries........ lol
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-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1689
lol what is tassadar doing...just let all his sentries die.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1690
blink is not a very good way to go, he's going to be able to make a million medivacs
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1691
Uh. Tassadar could have just targeted units when he had them forcefielded and pretty much won the game.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1692
On December 20 2011 20:08 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:07 TT1 wrote:
On December 20 2011 20:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:52 NipponBanzai wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:50 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:49 LeopoldStotch wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:46 aTnClouD wrote:
So protoss all ins and the better player is unable to react and randomly loses cause it's impossible to scout in SC2. So good.

edit: morrow still has some zvts to play anyway, there's still hope.


From what I saw, the worst player in that game lost.

Get glasses. I've played Tassadar in Korea he's nowhere near the level of Morrow. He's just pulling out stupid builds with poor execution in these matches.


Who is the one who lost to a stupid build with poor execution? lol

Ok I'll rephrase it. Tassadar is the worst player between the two, he pulled out stupid builds in both matches he played today and he won against Morrow with a poorly executed all in that totally relied on Morrow not being prepared, hence didn't require any deep preparation or response to what his opponent was doing. In short I'm saying Tassadar is playing like a scrub.


You need to calm the hell down. Morrow played worse and lost, that's it.


na morrow didnt play worse he just got caught off guard by a luck based build, cloud just comes off extremely agressive but he means well : D

No Hydras was luck or a bad decision?


personal preference, morrow likes dealing with stargate openers with spores + queens because hydras are sorta bad against 2stargatge type builds cus they get picked off easily by phoenixs once theyre rallied out, instead he goes into infestors which allows him to gain map control/hit/defend timings cus the most logical follow up to stargate openers is twilight tech
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1693
oO, cant ryung just stim run out and take down all the stalkers??
Oppa feeding style
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1694
Tassadar beat Ryung 2-1 in code A. I forgot about that. although it was 5 months ago so it's pretty much irrelevant
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1695
On December 20 2011 20:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Game Seven on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Ryung

While in the bottom left is Tassadar

4:40


Starport on the way for Ryung

Warp tech and a gate for Tassadar

5:40

Tassadar is taking the gas at his natural

Drop on the way for Ryung

7:00

Ryung lost the drop but the hellions got into the main and did huge damage getting 13 workers

Warp prism for Tassadar starting + twilight council

9:10


Blink on the way for Tassadar

Combat shield and stim on the way for Ryung


10:00


Tassadar attacking the main of Ryung killing a supply depot and a lot of the marines using the warp prism as a forward pylon


12:20


Robo bay, forge and a third base for Tassadar

Ryung getting two barracks and bio+1
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1696
On December 20 2011 20:13 Medrea wrote:
Stream choppy for anyone else? This is unwatchable.


I had the same issue earlier. I slowed it down a bit (x) and then set back to default (z) and it seemed to clear it up. You can try stopping and playing the stream again too.
We march to victory!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#1697
On December 20 2011 20:14 Mafe wrote:
Ryung winning is good for morrow, right?

yep
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 20 2011 11:16 GMT
#1698
Ooooo, look at those pretty flowers at those expansions
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 20 2011 11:16 GMT
#1699
Haha what the hell is he doing?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
December 20 2011 11:16 GMT
#1700
That ninja CC at 3 could very well decide the game.
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