On December 06 2011 21:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Imho stephano has a much better chance than naniwa does.
Imho stephano has a much better chance than naniwa does.
not necessarily, naniwa has the experience.
naniwa also beat stephano at DHW if i recall.
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:17 Itsmedudeman wrote: Imho stephano has a much better chance than naniwa does. not necessarily, naniwa has the experience. naniwa also beat stephano at DHW if i recall. | ||
s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:17 MrSalamandra wrote: Actually, I don't know if this has been answered at some point, but is Curious just in Code S? He would be against Coca, but Coca can't play, so... does he just get a bye into it? Yes he does . He got a freewin thanks to Coca dropping out of Code S completely. I guess Coca won't play Up/Downs either which kinda messes up 1 group ... | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. | ||
HitMonkie
Australia518 Posts
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JohnMatrix
France1351 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:18 andaylin wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:17 Itsmedudeman wrote: Imho stephano has a much better chance than naniwa does. not necessarily, naniwa has the experience. naniwa also beat stephano at DHW if i recall. yeah since its a BO1 format. i dont see Stephano performing really well with his little experience vs koreans ready with crazy all in BO | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:19 poorcloud wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. A lot of well known pros use them. It's pretty damn standard for stephano and dimaga, and I'd say DRG goes to it a fair number of games. Curious also transitions into them as well, although sometimes from mutas. | ||
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10292 Posts
yay ganzi advanced! yay nestea seems to have had no trouble! forgg stomps july o.o | ||
EEhantiming
Canada519 Posts
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Germany994 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:19 poorcloud wrote: On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. A lot of well known pros use them. It's pretty damn standard for stephano and dimaga, and I'd say DRG goes to it a fair number of games. Curious also transitions into them as well, although sometimes from mutas. Remember any specific games off the top of your head? | ||
NHY
1013 Posts
On December 06 2011 20:03 RPR_Tempest wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 19:58 NHY wrote: On December 06 2011 19:48 RPR_Tempest wrote: Why do they call him Ganji? Well, I know WHY, but it seems stupid, because we don't say "Pujjle" and we don't say "Torjain", so why are we doing it with GanZi? Let me get this... so you don't like the way Korean word sounds and want to change it? I'm just asking why. When you discuss Dragonball, you don't call Vegeta "Bejita" even though that's how it's pronounced in Japanese. Same thing with "Pikkoro". If this is an English cast, shouldn't we be translating stuff? It's not a big deal to me, I was just curious. Why do we pronounce "impasse" as [im-pas] and not [im-pa-se]? Because that's just the way we do it. The way a word is spelled is not the definitive answer in how to pronounce them, especially in English. "ベジータ" / "ピッコロ"(Bejita/Pikkoro) are not Janapese words, just like "GanZi" is not an English word. So that is not a correct analogy. Correct one would be 孫 悟空(Son GoKu) which is romanized as Son GoKu and pronounced as [Son Go-Ku] not [Sun Go-Ku], as you may suspect at first glance. Why do we pronounce "Son" as [son] and not [sun]? Because that's how it is pronounced in Japanese. | ||
ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:24 Goibon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: On December 06 2011 21:19 poorcloud wrote: On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. A lot of well known pros use them. It's pretty damn standard for stephano and dimaga, and I'd say DRG goes to it a fair number of games. Curious also transitions into them as well, although sometimes from mutas. Remember any specific games off the top of your head? July vs Ryung games 1-2 I think. | ||
MrSalamandra
United Kingdom412 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:18 s3rp wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:17 MrSalamandra wrote: Actually, I don't know if this has been answered at some point, but is Curious just in Code S? He would be against Coca, but Coca can't play, so... does he just get a bye into it? Yes he does . He got a freewin thanks to Coca dropping out of Code S completely. I guess Coca won't play Up/Downs either which kinda messes up 1 group ... Ah yeah, the new system causes more problems than the old system when someone drops out. Still, when Rain dropped out there was a small tournament among the losers of the ro16 which Ryung won, so he got a place into the Up & Down matches in GSL July. It's possible there'll be something similar for the losers of ro48, although that would certainly be more work to do so. They might just pick someone randomly to fill the spot. | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:24 Goibon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: On December 06 2011 21:19 poorcloud wrote: On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. A lot of well known pros use them. It's pretty damn standard for stephano and dimaga, and I'd say DRG goes to it a fair number of games. Curious also transitions into them as well, although sometimes from mutas. Remember any specific games off the top of your head? DRG vs. MVP in AOL1 on terminus is the one I remember most, but like every game of Curious I see he goes ultras. I'm pretty sure DRG has gone ultras in TvZ at least once in his last like 5 series. In fact, in the super late game I don't particularly remember DRG favoring broodlords at all. | ||
milesfacade
United Kingdom799 Posts
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:24 Goibon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: On December 06 2011 21:19 poorcloud wrote: On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. A lot of well known pros use them. It's pretty damn standard for stephano and dimaga, and I'd say DRG goes to it a fair number of games. Curious also transitions into them as well, although sometimes from mutas. Remember any specific games off the top of your head? Check out Curious vs STC as well. Stc has mass bio which is supposedly the counter to ultralisks. But curious just engaged perfectly everytime. | ||
Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:28 poorcloud wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 21:24 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: On December 06 2011 21:19 poorcloud wrote: On December 06 2011 21:12 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:06 Blaec wrote: On December 06 2011 21:05 Goibon wrote: On December 06 2011 21:04 Awesomeness wrote: On December 06 2011 21:02 Goibon wrote: lol @ people saying Ultras played any part in him winning that game. yeah, a strategy designed to get to infestor/ultra wtih upgrades really fast has obviously nothing to do with ultras... Allow me to rephrase then: Ultras still suck, and that game doesn't prove otherwise. This game proves that with the right build and right support Ultras can do very well vs Terran. Yeah at least they're worth making in some rare circumstances. Taeja was probably sitting in his booth going "WHY ULTRALISKU?". If ultralisks really sucked so much, why would DRG consider using it in a match it could have decided his code S future? I think ultras can work but you cannot just a move and you need the perfect positioning to use them. Any errors with the positioning and you would see ultras marching in a line to their deaths. Perhaps most other pros don't use them well which has generated such an impression. A lot of well known pros use them. It's pretty damn standard for stephano and dimaga, and I'd say DRG goes to it a fair number of games. Curious also transitions into them as well, although sometimes from mutas. Remember any specific games off the top of your head? Check out Curious vs STC as well. Stc has mass bio which is supposedly the counter to ultralisks. But curious just engaged perfectly everytime. OK that one is easy to find. Thanks for the other suggestions though bros. Well, easy once i realised STC is an Eric Clapton fan (or WWE, or X-Factor, or none of those because Koreans pick funny names). | ||
Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On December 06 2011 21:16 Seeker wrote: Poll: Were your liquibets screwed this time? No (27) Yes (7) 34 total votes Your vote: Were your liquibets screwed this time? Silly poll. Who would vote against fOrGG, NesTea and DRG? :s Ganzi v Lucky was 50/50 but Slayers Terrans have pretty good TvZ... | ||
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Netherlands2389 Posts
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