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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 05 2011 06:25 GMT
#4281
On December 05 2011 15:23 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:22 Urbz wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:18 Fionn wrote:
"Thank you to Slayers for helping me win this tournament and not my actual team."

Slayers wins another title.


Painful, but truth hurts huh.

did he actually say that? @_@


It was something like "I want to thank mma, ryung and jyp to have helped me and didn't sleep for me, without them I couldn't have win"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
December 05 2011 06:25 GMT
#4282
On December 05 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:20 SeaSmoke wrote:
Can we stop it with the gigantic checks? Seems so bush league to me.


Yeah, how about a money rain next season?

Winner gets 2000 $20 bills drop from the ceiling on them :D


And the loser has to pick them all up and hand them to the winner ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
December 05 2011 06:25 GMT
#4283
On December 05 2011 15:24 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:23 Stanlot wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:22 Urbz wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:18 Fionn wrote:
"Thank you to Slayers for helping me win this tournament and not my actual team."

Slayers wins another title.


Painful, but truth hurts huh.

did he actually say that? @_@


no, he said thanks to JYP for helping him practice TvP

EG and SlayerS are partners.

It's like Hero saying thanks to a oGs member.

Oh, well I figured he thanked SlayerS but I thought he said that part at the end too PP
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 05 2011 06:26 GMT
#4284
On December 05 2011 15:24 Fig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:22 supdubdup wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:21 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:18 Neelia wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:17 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:15 forsooth wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:13 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:09 forsooth wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:08 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:06 markz4 wrote:
ghosts are way too beefy

I always wondered why they are neither armored like infestors nor light like HTs. Seems like an oversight on Blizzard's part.

Archons are the same way. The lack of armored classification makes tanks and marauders pathetically weak against them.

Archons are MASSIVE, ghosts are not. Why don't ghosts have another classification? They don't look like they should be damage tanks, yet they are more tanky than marauders because they have no other classification.

Ghosts are biological/psionic...

Yes I know... But they are not light. Why not? They look like light units to me. They are punier than marines. I know that there are things in starcraft that don't make sense, but why can't this one?


For the same reason Queens are bionic/psionic ;D

I know they are as well. But Queens are not small, and do indeed look like tanky units, while not looking armored, and not being very massive. So it actually does make sense in their case. Ghosts on the other hand do NOT look tanky. And DO look light.

Now now. Let's not try to apply logic to a video game. My command center should be able to land on zerglings, but they can't.

I already went over the fact that many things in SC2 don't make sense. But this one could be easily changed to make perfect sense! They already did it with high templar. HTs used to not be light units, but a patch changed that. Seems to me that they forgot to do the same with the ghost.


I'm pretty sure that decision to make HT light had nothing to do with it making sense and everything to do with balance. This argument is silly and inane.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 05 2011 06:26 GMT
#4285
On December 05 2011 15:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:21 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:20 SeaSmoke wrote:
Can we stop it with the gigantic checks? Seems so bush league to me.


Yeah, how about a money rain next season?

Winner gets 2000 $20 bills drop from the ceiling on them :D


And the loser has to pick them all up and hand them to the winner ^^

lol.

i would prefer they throw glue on them and they have to roll around in the money to pick it all up in less than two mins. =)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 05 2011 06:27 GMT
#4286
Woo hoo puma! Back to back nasl champ! And getting revenge on Hero.

This hero/puma rivalry is excellent (shout out to Lindsay sporrer, we missed you this nasl. Two very good players, on two top foreign teams and just adding to the EG/Liquid rivalry.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 05 2011 06:27 GMT
#4287
On December 05 2011 15:26 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:24 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:22 supdubdup wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:21 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:18 Neelia wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:17 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:15 forsooth wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:13 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:09 forsooth wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:08 Fig wrote:
[quote]
I always wondered why they are neither armored like infestors nor light like HTs. Seems like an oversight on Blizzard's part.

Archons are the same way. The lack of armored classification makes tanks and marauders pathetically weak against them.

Archons are MASSIVE, ghosts are not. Why don't ghosts have another classification? They don't look like they should be damage tanks, yet they are more tanky than marauders because they have no other classification.

Ghosts are biological/psionic...

Yes I know... But they are not light. Why not? They look like light units to me. They are punier than marines. I know that there are things in starcraft that don't make sense, but why can't this one?


For the same reason Queens are bionic/psionic ;D

I know they are as well. But Queens are not small, and do indeed look like tanky units, while not looking armored, and not being very massive. So it actually does make sense in their case. Ghosts on the other hand do NOT look tanky. And DO look light.

Now now. Let's not try to apply logic to a video game. My command center should be able to land on zerglings, but they can't.

I already went over the fact that many things in SC2 don't make sense. But this one could be easily changed to make perfect sense! They already did it with high templar. HTs used to not be light units, but a patch changed that. Seems to me that they forgot to do the same with the ghost.


I'm pretty sure that decision to make HT light had nothing to do with it making sense and everything to do with balance. This argument is silly and inane.


Completely insane. You don't balance the game around the art... if anything he should be arguing for them to change the ghost art.
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 06:28:28
December 05 2011 06:27 GMT
#4288
I want fire in that ceremony some time, too.

Really really enjoyed this weekend, especially after I stopped cringing on NASL's behalf (Day 2 had a much more respectable crowd and the stream count was nice).
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 05 2011 06:27 GMT
#4289
On December 05 2011 15:22 sirreginold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:20 SharkHuh wrote:
For all the shit this crowd got for being small, I thought they had some of the most passion I've seen from any of the events this year. Their cheering in game was sick


NASL crowd had more passion than the MLG Providence crowd. I really hope the NASL gets their act together and come back for a 3rd season.


Seriously...the 1.2.3. *insert player* thing should be standard for every tournament.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 05 2011 06:29 GMT
#4290
On December 05 2011 15:27 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:22 sirreginold wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:20 SharkHuh wrote:
For all the shit this crowd got for being small, I thought they had some of the most passion I've seen from any of the events this year. Their cheering in game was sick


NASL crowd had more passion than the MLG Providence crowd. I really hope the NASL gets their act together and come back for a 3rd season.


Seriously...the 1.2.3. *insert player* thing should be standard for every tournament.


Yeah, like they did here (I guess, I don't understand korean)



It makes everything looks more awesome
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
December 05 2011 06:30 GMT
#4291
On December 05 2011 15:26 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 15:24 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:22 supdubdup wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:21 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:18 Neelia wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:17 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:15 forsooth wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:13 Fig wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:09 forsooth wrote:
On December 05 2011 15:08 Fig wrote:
[quote]
I always wondered why they are neither armored like infestors nor light like HTs. Seems like an oversight on Blizzard's part.

Archons are the same way. The lack of armored classification makes tanks and marauders pathetically weak against them.

Archons are MASSIVE, ghosts are not. Why don't ghosts have another classification? They don't look like they should be damage tanks, yet they are more tanky than marauders because they have no other classification.

Ghosts are biological/psionic...

Yes I know... But they are not light. Why not? They look like light units to me. They are punier than marines. I know that there are things in starcraft that don't make sense, but why can't this one?


For the same reason Queens are bionic/psionic ;D

I know they are as well. But Queens are not small, and do indeed look like tanky units, while not looking armored, and not being very massive. So it actually does make sense in their case. Ghosts on the other hand do NOT look tanky. And DO look light.

Now now. Let's not try to apply logic to a video game. My command center should be able to land on zerglings, but they can't.

I already went over the fact that many things in SC2 don't make sense. But this one could be easily changed to make perfect sense! They already did it with high templar. HTs used to not be light units, but a patch changed that. Seems to me that they forgot to do the same with the ghost.


I'm pretty sure that decision to make HT light had nothing to do with it making sense and everything to do with balance. This argument is silly and inane.

I don't consider it an argument. It would be nice to hear the reason that Blizzard changed the HT and not the Ghost though. Oh well, time for bed! The finals had some surprisingly exciting moments.
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
December 05 2011 06:30 GMT
#4292
So yeah, don't think there will be a special show or anything =/
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
December 05 2011 06:30 GMT
#4293
Despite it's short comings and lacking content compared to other tournaments, overall enjoyable tournament.

The games were good. They went a bit overkill with too many casters with not enough to do but the casting/introing was great overall. The red carpet entrances were an amusing change of pace and quite fun. The crowd was small but they really made up for it with lively cheering and chants, props to the crowd for not being negative nancys because they were so few but instead stepping up their game. I enjoyed the crowd interactions with the giveaways and them lining the red carpet entrances too. Also cool how they incorporated day9 daily and live on 3, nice to see that.

Obviously there were quite a few shortcomings but I like how NASL stays positive and lighthearted despite the haters, fun to see a tournament that is a bit tongue in cheek and cheesey in a good way.

And finally, the best part of the tournament was of course the epic zoomhappy camera man and the resulting stream chat during his adventures. Sad they put a leash on him and his antics after day one, he was truly an artist and epic troll, intentional or not, haven't laughed so hard in a while.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
December 05 2011 06:31 GMT
#4294
If Sen always gets third place does that make him forever bronze?

Also I'm torn on whether or not I like the giant checks at this point, I almost think a trophy for the winner and like little medallions for 2nd and 3rd would be classier and more meaningful for the players.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
December 05 2011 06:32 GMT
#4295
On December 05 2011 15:30 LovE-z33k wrote:
So yeah, don't think there will be a special show or anything =/

Nah, I'll give it two more minutes.
metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
December 05 2011 06:32 GMT
#4296
On December 05 2011 15:27 jmbthirteen wrote:
Woo hoo puma! Back to back nasl champ! And getting revenge on Hero.

This hero/puma rivalry is excellent (shout out to Lindsay sporrer, we missed you this nasl. Two very good players, on two top foreign teams and just adding to the EG/Liquid rivalry.

wait ....no....its suppose to be an EG vs Mouz rivalry. NO!!!!!!!
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 05 2011 06:34 GMT
#4297
As a HerO fan, I'm slightly disappointed but given he won DHW over PuMa I can't really complain.

The LRs are very useful for those of us who can't watch (work, Firewall of China, etc), thanks Seeker!

Finally, HerO vs PuMa seems like HuK vs IdrA 2.0. But less BM, which may or may not be a good thing.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
December 05 2011 06:39 GMT
#4298
On December 05 2011 14:58 kazie wrote:
man they really need to get better translators... always full of mistranslations or making up complete new bs
puma says "i know it's very hard to win the same tournament 2 times so im speechless, but ill try hard and win the 3rd as well"
translator says "it's NOT very hard to win nasl 2 times and ill win the 3rd as well."
complete opposite


This should be addressed in the OP - as well as other corrections to the translator's translations. It'd be nice to get a better translation of what Puma and Hero said in their winner's interviews.
I feel that out of all translators doing their job in sc2, Jun Kyu "Junkka" Park is probably one of the few who consistently translates properly (either that or he delivers awesome troll speeches!). Suzie from ipl was also pretty good.

Nevertheless, GG Puma and wp both for delivering a nail-biting and entertaining bo7! Sad it ended at 4-2 - was hoping for the full 4-3.
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
December 05 2011 06:44 GMT
#4299
Oh Yeh PUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 06:46:43
December 05 2011 06:46 GMT
#4300
The army movement and positioning/micro in game 6 was sex by Puma. I wish I could emulate it!
Vincere Vel Mori
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