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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
December 04 2011 20:43 GMT
#301
On December 05 2011 05:38 1Eris1 wrote:
So from what I'm reading, if HoN is basically a direct 90% port from LoL (same characters, same overall style). Why not just play LoL then?


HoN is quite far from LoL. Actually, those two games have pretty much nothing in common except belonging in the same genre.
HoN resembles DoTA, and not LoL.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
December 04 2011 20:43 GMT
#302
This game is pretty much over already, legionnaire is almost unstoppable at this point. Maybe if he does something incredible stupid, but i do not see that happening.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
December 04 2011 20:44 GMT
#303
On December 05 2011 05:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 05:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:38 1Eris1 wrote:
So from what I'm reading, HoN is basically a direct 90% port from LoL. Why not just play LoL then?

wtf? what exactly are you reading? i cant imagine how did you get that information


Show nested quote +
K, game is beginning.
Lets see what they are banning.
Plague rider is a direct port of Lich - banned
Magebane direct port of Antimage - banned
Pebbles direct port of tiny - banned.
tempest direct port of Enigma - banned.

Now on to the hero picks.
torturer = tormented soul
tundra = Beastmaster
demented shaman = shadow priest.
glacius = crystal maiden.
pyromancer = slayer
legionnaire = axe


Bunch of other posts like this basically on the last 3 pages. Seems kind of stupid.


Those are all DoTA heroes?
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tjempjun
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands9 Posts
December 04 2011 20:44 GMT
#304
On December 05 2011 05:43 1Eris1 wrote:

Bunch of other posts like this basically on the last 3 pages. Seems kind of stupid.


Except those are Dota heroes, not LoL.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
December 04 2011 20:45 GMT
#305
On December 05 2011 05:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 05:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:38 1Eris1 wrote:
So from what I'm reading, HoN is basically a direct 90% port from LoL. Why not just play LoL then?

wtf? what exactly are you reading? i cant imagine how did you get that information


Show nested quote +
K, game is beginning.
Lets see what they are banning.
Plague rider is a direct port of Lich - banned
Magebane direct port of Antimage - banned
Pebbles direct port of tiny - banned.
tempest direct port of Enigma - banned.

Now on to the hero picks.
torturer = tormented soul
tundra = Beastmaster
demented shaman = shadow priest.
glacius = crystal maiden.
pyromancer = slayer
legionnaire = axe


Bunch of other posts like this basically on the last 3 pages. Seems kind of stupid.


...HoN is a port from Dota. Not LoL.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
December 04 2011 20:45 GMT
#306
On December 05 2011 05:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 05:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:38 1Eris1 wrote:
So from what I'm reading, HoN is basically a direct 90% port from LoL. Why not just play LoL then?

wtf? what exactly are you reading? i cant imagine how did you get that information


Show nested quote +
K, game is beginning.
Lets see what they are banning.
Plague rider is a direct port of Lich - banned
Magebane direct port of Antimage - banned
Pebbles direct port of tiny - banned.
tempest direct port of Enigma - banned.

Now on to the hero picks.
torturer = tormented soul
tundra = Beastmaster
demented shaman = shadow priest.
glacius = crystal maiden.
pyromancer = slayer
legionnaire = axe


Bunch of other posts like this basically on the last 3 pages. Seems kind of stupid.

I asked for a comparison of heroes from DotA to HoN lol. I can't stress just how different LoL is from the others.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:48:16
December 04 2011 20:46 GMT
#307
On December 05 2011 05:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 05:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:38 1Eris1 wrote:
So from what I'm reading, HoN is basically a direct 90% port from LoL. Why not just play LoL then?

wtf? what exactly are you reading? i cant imagine how did you get that information


Show nested quote +
K, game is beginning.
Lets see what they are banning.
Plague rider is a direct port of Lich - banned
Magebane direct port of Antimage - banned
Pebbles direct port of tiny - banned.
tempest direct port of Enigma - banned.

Now on to the hero picks.
torturer = tormented soul
tundra = Beastmaster
demented shaman = shadow priest.
glacius = crystal maiden.
pyromancer = slayer
legionnaire = axe


Bunch of other posts like this basically on the last 3 pages. Seems kind of stupid.

you are completly wrong, for one they are talking about DOTA which is NOT League of Legends. Dota is the original game from which both hon and lol got the idea, and both have ported heroes from DOTA not each other. BTW, Antimage is not a directly ported as Magebane, the second pack of heroes have modifications too, some of them at least

LoL is like dota for dummies (no offence but they removed one of the few individual skill-dependant moves from the game), Hon is like dota for hmm, idk, something like dota which has reconnection and is different a bit
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 04 2011 20:46 GMT
#308
On December 05 2011 05:43 KadaverBB wrote:
This game is pretty much over already, legionnaire is almost unstoppable at this point. Maybe if he does something incredible stupid, but i do not see that happening.


That's the impression I was getting from about the 8 minute mark. I'm not a HoN expert at all, but is there any feasible way for MSI to come back? This seems to be one of the most frustrating things about this gametype... even with an insurmountable lead the winning team can't close out the win for a long long time.
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
December 04 2011 20:47 GMT
#309
Hahahahaha. That cliff walk. That was hilarious.
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
December 04 2011 20:47 GMT
#310
What's s2?
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:48:42
December 04 2011 20:47 GMT
#311
R O F L did u guys see that wth :D


On December 05 2011 05:47 arfyron wrote:
What's s2?


Producer of HoN. They used similarly to someone saying "lolBlizzard" after a bug occurs in sc2.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 04 2011 20:47 GMT
#312
Okay woops my bad, totally must have somehow mixed up Dota and LoL. Coulda sworn someone said LoL, ehhh -.-

Meant Dota and HoN then. Ugh
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alyselol
Profile Joined December 2010
100 Posts
December 04 2011 20:48 GMT
#313
"pce" - glacius
looooooooool
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 04 2011 20:49 GMT
#314
In general, what's the tier of difficulty for DotA/HoN/LoL? Which is considered most difficult? I've heard DotA's harder to deal with due to the pathing ... ?
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:53:51
December 04 2011 20:49 GMT
#315
despite what you guys will say about HoN or really any game like DotA or LoL, it is an unforgiving game at a high level of play. there is a big disparity in what you will see between an average player and a great player.

pro players in HoN will often have around 150-200apm for controlling just their one unit for example. it is partly because everything that spawns in the game especially your own hero, provides gold once killed (you can choose to 'deny' the gaining of that gold by heroes of another team by attacking and killing your allied units/teammates)

HoN or DotA is especially unforgiving when you are a new player, even if you are just playing against other new players. the amount of knowledge and general control you need will catch up to you by the beginning minutes of the game.
i have played all of these games for a reasonable amount of time and with/against pre-made teams most of the time, and i actually find it potentially more frustrating than most games of starcraft.

what i mean to say is, don't look down on a genre or game because it looks silly or easy unless you want to appear simple or silly yourself.. simple as that.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
December 04 2011 20:50 GMT
#316
On December 05 2011 05:46 Zebb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 05:43 KadaverBB wrote:
This game is pretty much over already, legionnaire is almost unstoppable at this point. Maybe if he does something incredible stupid, but i do not see that happening.


That's the impression I was getting from about the 8 minute mark. I'm not a HoN expert at all, but is there any feasible way for MSI to come back? This seems to be one of the most frustrating things about this gametype... even with an insurmountable lead the winning team can't close out the win for a long long time.



They pretty much have to hope that the other team fucks up.
They have to play very defensive and hope that the other team gets to agressive and maybe overextends.
This way they might win a huge teamfight and can turn the game around.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 04 2011 20:50 GMT
#317
i don't know, seems like the hellbourne (right? the top right team ^^) are striking back right now. i dunno if legionnaire is all awesome later on, i don't think so. let's see!
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
December 04 2011 20:50 GMT
#318
Anyone find it funny that caster said something about SC2 saying from Artosis, but used to advise the thing exactly opposite what Artosis advises?
DrDrake
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands31 Posts
December 04 2011 20:51 GMT
#319
Enjoying the games, but the casters do call games a bit early? after first few kills they already kinda declared Fanatic MSI lost.. I know that a good early farm does favor one team a lot, but meh.. found it a bit annoying.

Other than that, so far some nice action
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:53:27
December 04 2011 20:51 GMT
#320
Why is the stream up there when it's streaming hon....
I HAVE BEEN TRICKED. lol
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