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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 28 2011 09:53 GMT
#661
Tasteless is still right. Terrans shouldn't wall against Protoss in most cases. Just like in Broodwar, the Stalker/Dragoon can poke the wall without the Terran being able to defend it.

In Broodwar, it was defended by siege tanks. In SC2, Terrans don't get siege tanks so they can't really outrange Stalkers. They have to move out to attack, but are at the mercy of forcefields.
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
November 28 2011 09:53 GMT
#662
On November 28 2011 18:48 ThaSlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 18:48 Kira__ wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:47 ThaSlayer wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:46 NGrNecris wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:45 Asha` wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:44 MrCon wrote:
BOOYA HEHEHE

Poll: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

Yes (39)
 
49%

No (29)
 
37%

If you have time (11)
 
14%

79 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



rofl, how does that game get so many yes votes when the first gets mostly no? They were basically the exact same game, one player being super greedy and dying to the first serious poke.


You must be new here

He made sense.


maybe that was the point

Ahh yes. Re-read it. My bad


I liked the second game better than the first but only because of Oz's decision to do something instead of nothing with his warp prism after jakjii scouted it
Yokoblue
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada594 Posts
November 28 2011 09:53 GMT
#663
On November 28 2011 18:52 TeeTS wrote:
The Placement of the Bunker and the Techlab was horrible. If he places the bunker more centered and the techlab inside his main, while adding a 2nd and a 3rd bunker when he sees the push coming he should be able to hold this. Was a big failure by jjakji. But isn't it interesting that 3gates pump out a stronger army than 4rax? :-)


When half of your army get FF and fight the main army... + Guardian shield...

and another point... When your army of 50 mineral unit fight after Sentry and stalkers which are really gas heavy units and cost way more...
Master League playing Protoss and Zerg
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
November 28 2011 09:53 GMT
#664
On November 28 2011 18:47 ThaSlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 18:46 NGrNecris wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:45 Asha` wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:44 MrCon wrote:
BOOYA HEHEHE

Poll: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

Yes (39)
 
49%

No (29)
 
37%

If you have time (11)
 
14%

79 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



rofl, how does that game get so many yes votes when the first gets mostly no? They were basically the exact same game, one player being super greedy and dying to the first serious poke.


You must be new here

He made sense.


Yes, that's the first sign that he's new, he still has his sanity :-p
(But if you've ever been in a LR thread before you should know who Asha is, because he's one of the few people whose posts don't make you want to abandon society and live in a shack on a mountain somewhere.)

@the poll numbers -- it's just a popularity contest, basically. The games were pretty much the same situation, but Oz is more popular, so when he wins it's recommended. Granted if Jjakji won in an entertaining or epic game, that would probably get good votes too, but still.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
November 28 2011 09:53 GMT
#665
On November 28 2011 18:52 TeeTS wrote:
The Placement of the Bunker and the Techlab was horrible. If he places the bunker more centered and the techlab inside his main, while adding a 2nd and a 3rd bunker when he sees the push coming he should be able to hold this. Was a big failure by jjakji. But isn't it interesting that 3gates pump out a stronger army than 4rax? :-)

jjakji mainly had rines vs a stalker/sentry/zealot army
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 28 2011 09:54 GMT
#666
On November 28 2011 18:53 MrCon wrote:
Hero's anti 111 build on dual sight was a beautiful thing. Don't know how it would fare vs a not 111 build tho.


Pretty sure it dies straight up to MVP's 2-1 build
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
November 28 2011 09:54 GMT
#667
On November 28 2011 18:53 Zzoram wrote:
Tasteless is still right. Terrans shouldn't wall against Protoss in most cases. Just like in Broodwar, the Stalker/Dragoon can poke the wall without the Terran being able to defend it.

In Broodwar, it was defended by siege tanks. In SC2, Terrans don't get siege tanks so they can't really outrange Stalkers. They have to move out to attack, but are at the mercy of forcefields.


But unlike in BW you can hold off early stalker aggression with a bunker with marines unlike goon pressure where you needed to repair the bunker until tanks come out
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 28 2011 09:54 GMT
#668
On November 28 2011 18:52 Xacalite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 18:50 Ciel wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:49 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:45 Asha` wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:44 MrCon wrote:
BOOYA HEHEHE

Poll: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

Yes (39)
 
49%

No (29)
 
37%

If you have time (11)
 
14%

79 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



rofl, how does that game get so many yes votes when the first gets mostly no? They were basically the exact same game, one player being super greedy and dying to the first serious poke.


People are biased towards Oz. Imo, first game is way better than the second.

Not biased towards Oz, just hate all the terrans mindlessly


gotta hate the 1a. gotta love the warpprism and Oz because its the only time you see it in action. there are the upvotes.

so because Oz was greedy as fuck and jjakji had a way better army and was able to 1a over Oz, its the terran 1a'ing that made the game bad... I think it was more of Oz's play, this coming from an Oz fan.
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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
November 28 2011 09:55 GMT
#669
On November 28 2011 18:52 TeeTS wrote:
The Placement of the Bunker and the Techlab was horrible. If he places the bunker more centered and the techlab inside his main, while adding a 2nd and a 3rd bunker when he sees the push coming he should be able to hold this. Was a big failure by jjakji. But isn't it interesting that 3gates pump out a stronger army than 4rax? :-)


you're pretty funny, you know? Doing that will completely change the game, where it goes to the fact that toss will not see the tech lab and do another build altogether.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
CreationSoul
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania231 Posts
November 28 2011 09:55 GMT
#670
I think terran being OP at release really hurt a lot. Whenever i see a PvT or ZvT, i just can't help but root for the non-terran.

I want to see a non TvT final so bad.....

anyway, hame 1 was better than game 2. hope all the remaining games will be epic
Quitting is the easy way out...
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 28 2011 09:56 GMT
#671
Haha tasteless is on fire today
@followMVT
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 09:57:29
November 28 2011 09:56 GMT
#672
On November 28 2011 18:53 Zzoram wrote:
Tasteless is still right. Terrans shouldn't wall against Protoss in most cases. Just like in Broodwar, the Stalker/Dragoon can poke the wall without the Terran being able to defend it.

In Broodwar, it was defended by siege tanks. In SC2, Terrans don't get siege tanks so they can't really outrange Stalkers. They have to move out to attack, but are at the mercy of forcefields.


Yeah, I agree. I don't really watch Brood War very much, but the Bulldog tactic was very effective until Terrans grab siege tech. Its a similar situation really. Instead of Dragoons being impossible to kill with bio if properly controlled, Terrans will be at the risk of his army being forcefielded.

Anything to make mech more viable or make early game situation more interesting. Of course, marines have equal range in bunkers however, unlike BW counterparts. To be honest I think they need to reintroduce back range upgrade for marines.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
November 28 2011 09:56 GMT
#673
Tasteless calling out The Situation on the internet. Oh yeahh... OZ! fighting
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
November 28 2011 09:56 GMT
#674
Jjakji
vs
Oz

on Dual Sight

Jjakji at bottom left

Oz at top right

First 5 minutes
FFS, finally Jjakji opens up standard. Rax + gas

Oz opens standard as well. Hallelujah.....

Jjakji hits a factory
Jjakji hitting 2nd gas

Oz hitting dual nex

Jjakji hitting 1-1-1
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
November 28 2011 09:56 GMT
#675
awesome joke.saying what everyone think on facebook
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 28 2011 09:57 GMT
#676
ugh if he 1/1/1's with cloak I'll be kinda sad, I feel it works a lot better without cloak.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
November 28 2011 09:57 GMT
#677
On November 28 2011 18:55 CreationSoul wrote:
I think terran being OP at release really hurt a lot. Whenever i see a PvT or ZvT, i just can't help but root for the non-terran.

I want to see a non TvT final so bad.....

anyway, hame 1 was better than game 2. hope all the remaining games will be epic


is it weird that I feel the same even though I play terran? lol
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 28 2011 09:57 GMT
#678
ok, this map really needs to go lol...GSL removes terminus but keeps this shitty map what the hell
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 28 2011 09:57 GMT
#679
Yeah, should have went stargate
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
November 28 2011 09:57 GMT
#680
On November 28 2011 18:53 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 18:47 ThaSlayer wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:46 NGrNecris wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:45 Asha` wrote:
On November 28 2011 18:44 MrCon wrote:
BOOYA HEHEHE

Poll: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

Yes (39)
 
49%

No (29)
 
37%

If you have time (11)
 
14%

79 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Oz vs jjakji game 2 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



rofl, how does that game get so many yes votes when the first gets mostly no? They were basically the exact same game, one player being super greedy and dying to the first serious poke.


You must be new here

He made sense.


Yes, that's the first sign that he's new, he still has his sanity :-p
(But if you've ever been in a LR thread before you should know who Asha is, because he's one of the few people whose posts don't make you want to abandon society and live in a shack on a mountain somewhere.)

@the poll numbers -- it's just a popularity contest, basically. The games were pretty much the same situation, but Oz is more popular, so when he wins it's recommended. Granted if Jjakji won in an entertaining or epic game, that would probably get good votes too, but still.


I don't really think its a popularity contest. The protoss played very badly the first game, therefore no surprise it was a giant 'NO'. However, the second game was pretty good, as Oz made use of every unit to crush his opponent. Obs/warp prism for high ground vision, Stalkers to pick off stuff and those sick FF.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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