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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
In addition leave the usual out of this topic:
-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions
Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
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On November 26 2011 07:51 Darclite wrote:
Anyone who thinks one race is "easier" than another has an incredibly primitive view of the game. It goes with the assumption that there are no variations in playstyles or skill sets.
Also, I like how everyone seemed to take Jinro's simple, rational "Terran isn't really the easiest race" and turned it into "OH LOOK JINRO SAID THAT TERRAN IS HARD AND UP! FUCK YOU DUMB WHINY TOSS AND ZERG PLAYERS"
Well, he didn't say it but it could be inferred. LOL.
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On November 26 2011 07:54 MasterKush wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:51 Darclite wrote:
Anyone who thinks one race is "easier" than another has an incredibly primitive view of the game. It goes with the assumption that there are no variations in playstyles or skill sets.
Also, I like how everyone seemed to take Jinro's simple, rational "Terran isn't really the easiest race" and turned it into "OH LOOK JINRO SAID THAT TERRAN IS HARD AND UP! FUCK YOU DUMB WHINY TOSS AND ZERG PLAYERS" No. It's more the fact that if you admit to playing Terran on this forum (no matter what level you play at) you are immediately criticized and laughed at because you play the "OP" race. Somehow because of their opinion on Terran, anything you say from there onwards is just invalid to them.
I'm not entirely sure you know how a protoss felt on this forum for the last 10 years, or just to cater to this thread since the invention of 4gate...
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On November 26 2011 07:52 Scrandom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:51 Darclite wrote:
Anyone who thinks one race is "easier" than another has an incredibly primitive view of the game. It goes with the assumption that there are no variations in playstyles or skill sets.
Also, I like how everyone seemed to take Jinro's simple, rational "Terran isn't really the easiest race" and turned it into "OH LOOK JINRO SAID THAT TERRAN IS HARD AND UP! FUCK YOU DUMB WHINY TOSS AND ZERG PLAYERS" Point out any posts like that, please.
On November 26 2011 07:44 PG13 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:43 Makenshi wrote:On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete. Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know. Out of curiosity, in your opinion if terran isn't the easiest which one do you think? I'm not poking or anything just curious  I doubt anyone with a brain would say that protoss isn't the easiest race, lol
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On November 26 2011 07:50 leo23 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:48 Taug wrote:On November 26 2011 07:43 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
I'm disappointed by DH
Game quality is lower than most tournaments, so much sloppy play me too. Maybe GSL/MLG has spoiled us too much. I agree, this is quite a boring tournament. I hope next DH will have quality players. Yeah I agree with these sentiments even though there has been a couple of good games here and there
MLG picks it matches, just showing a handfull compared to all the games that are played.
DH have shown ALOT of the matches giving alot of unknown players a chance to shine. Maybe its shows more bad games but all player get the chance to shine.
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On November 26 2011 07:54 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:52 AxionSteel wrote:On November 26 2011 07:49 ZenithM wrote:On November 26 2011 07:41 Bro_Stone wrote:On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete. Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know. True, most games I see of TvP for example is Terran trying to exploit a weakness while Protoss just defends defends defends until 200 supply and push with 15 WG... It's not really Protoss' fault. Right now, playing turtle Toss, as boring as it may be, is probably optimal over more agressive play. That's probably part of why MC is not doing very well in PvT despite every other korean Toss being a beast in that matchup as of late. MC turtling to get mass tech and mass upgrades? Lol. Now, with quicker upgrades, and EMP being much weaker, Terran's late game is apparently way inferior to Protoss late game, which makes turtling impossible for Terran. Conclusion, PvT is indeed a shitty matchup. I would say though. One base terran and random proxy rax are as strong as ever (too strong imo) and we always see Terrans randomly win with that regardless or their weaker late game. HotS needs to change all that, I hope. And as I write that, Happy is one base all-inning as in all his TvP I believe. No matter who wins the game, it's a terrible matchup imo.. If terran rolls over the toss with 1-1-1 it's boring. few months ago when games were stagnant, armies clashed and protoss armies evaporated and terran facerolled it was boring, and now...protoss sitting there mass upgrading whilst terran really can't do anything, a few engagements, someone wins. boring. I don't think a Terran has used a 1/1/1 allin except happy with medivacs and that doesn't pull scvs and has an expo.
I'm not talking about this tournament, I'm just talking about how the matchup has gone over the last few months in general.
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OOOOOOwwww!!
What WhiteRa did???
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On November 26 2011 07:55 mhe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:52 Scrandom wrote:On November 26 2011 07:51 Darclite wrote:
Anyone who thinks one race is "easier" than another has an incredibly primitive view of the game. It goes with the assumption that there are no variations in playstyles or skill sets.
Also, I like how everyone seemed to take Jinro's simple, rational "Terran isn't really the easiest race" and turned it into "OH LOOK JINRO SAID THAT TERRAN IS HARD AND UP! FUCK YOU DUMB WHINY TOSS AND ZERG PLAYERS" Point out any posts like that, please. Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:44 PG13 wrote:On November 26 2011 07:43 Makenshi wrote:On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete. Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know. Out of curiosity, in your opinion if terran isn't the easiest which one do you think? I'm not poking or anything just curious I doubt anyone with a brain would say that protoss isn't the easiest race, lol
see my prior post about pg13
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Poland507 Posts
Dreamhack is lacking player-audience interaction. We could see in MLG players were interviewed and could perform "ceremonies".
Here we only see games. It's BAD! Viewers require drama and closer interaction with casters and especially players!
Dreamhack has it's great production quality, but WE WANT INTERVIEWS AND RIVALRIES!!!
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Rofl did that just happen.
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 White-Ra vs  SjoW 0-1
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No storms on vikings? All Templar clumped?
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Thanks TwtichTV, every stream is unwatchable for me, lagging like hell =(((
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Switzerland2892 Posts
Whitera played reeeeeeeeeally bad this game, sjow must not believe it
btw what I love with this kind of threads is to read the automated ban list after.
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'Sup, doesn't look that impossible to win engagements as Terran. You just have to think a bit and be careful.
Which was not required with the old EMP 
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That undead brilliant precision, jesus christ I wanna play like this  .
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happy teaching how you do it terrans budies
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Balance and ease of play are two different things. Not sure why they're even being compared, especially since "ease of play" drastically changes when going from Bronze league all the way up to Code S level.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Maxxed protoss. Steam lag. Tod on 90 supply...
Whaaaa?
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On November 26 2011 07:50 leo23 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 07:48 Taug wrote:On November 26 2011 07:43 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
I'm disappointed by DH
Game quality is lower than most tournaments, so much sloppy play me too. Maybe GSL/MLG has spoiled us too much. I agree, this is quite a boring tournament. I hope next DH will have quality players. Yeah I agree with these sentiments even though there has been a couple of good games here and there
I realize that there has been some sloppy play... but we're ONLY in group play. I expect that once the ro16 starts we'll see some better quality play.
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