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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
November 25 2011 12:23 GMT
#2061
On November 25 2011 21:19 Burning wrote:
Just went through the rules and saw this:

Show nested quote +
Heart beat sensor
● The semi finals and the grand final will be played in the DreamArena AMD SAPPHIRE.
The four players will need to use a heart beat sensor during the matches.
● The Heart beat sensor will be attached with a stretchable belt around the chest. This will
be tried out in advance and attached before the final show begins.


Looks like a really cool feature



What? THAT IS SICK, great find!

DH never ceases to impress me.. way to go
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
November 25 2011 12:23 GMT
#2062
Im so excited for that arena tomorrow, I hope a ton of people show up.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 25 2011 12:23 GMT
#2063
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.


You understand it's a three way tie right? You can't think like that in such situation.
Sayanshaka
Profile Joined November 2011
France6 Posts
November 25 2011 12:23 GMT
#2064
Poor cloud ? I didn't know people cared about cloud=p . He's only 3rd but sure the 4th isn't 'poor' per say.
no thanks
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2065
On November 25 2011 21:22 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:21 Frankon wrote:
Yup. You could technically even lose more than two matches and still be in a tournament with this system.


How? Being 0-3 will never get you through.

Technically you could be 0-2 in one of the group stages and 0-1 in another group stage and still make it out.
Clafou
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium921 Posts
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2066
On November 25 2011 21:21 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:20 Clafou wrote:
Wow, I just arrived and saw the results... O_o

Did IdrA ragequit a lot? :0)

No, Idra usually doesn't ragequit if he respects his opponents.



I'm glad to hear that
plaguuuu~
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden26 Posts
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2067
On November 25 2011 21:22 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:21 Frankon wrote:
Yup. You could technically even lose more than two matches and still be in a tournament with this system.


How? Being 0-3 will never get you through.

he said matches not series
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2068
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.

Well, sheth and naniwa both were 2-1 and sheth still advances as #1 seed even though naniwa won against him. The system is fair.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:24:35
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2069
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.


And if CLoud advanced, NaNi would be lef out even though he won against Sheth. Therefore the only (and best) solution is using maps won and maps lost as tiebreaker. It sucks for Cloud but the system is fair.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2070
On November 25 2011 21:23 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.


You understand it's a three way tie right? You can't think like that in such situation.


Yep, it's like saying if cloud went through, it would be shocking that sheth went through and naniwa didn't.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:26:24
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2071
anyone knows the music they are playing now? it is not too bad :D (am watching day9's stream)
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:25:38
November 25 2011 12:24 GMT
#2072
On November 25 2011 21:24 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:22 gruff wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:21 Frankon wrote:
Yup. You could technically even lose more than two matches and still be in a tournament with this system.


How? Being 0-3 will never get you through.

Technically you could be 0-2 in one of the group stages and 0-1 in another group stage and still make it out.

You have to play all your matches. You can't be 0-2 or 0-1.

EDIT: Unless you mean 0-2 with 1 game to play? In which case it's possible but also very hard (there will be a 3 way tie).
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 25 2011 12:26 GMT
#2073
On November 25 2011 21:21 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:20 gruff wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:19 sixfour wrote:
this kind of squabbling over whether a group system like this or the gsl's system is better is silly. they're both bad.


They are not bad. Not flawless by any means but not bad.


I'd love to know what his idea of a perfect system is. This is about as traditional as it gets.


that a system is traditional does not make it good. you see things like group stages into knockout in things like, say, the world cup, because of logistical constraints which simply don't exist in an SC2 LAN, or at least not to the same extent.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 25 2011 12:26 GMT
#2074
Ow, how did Stephano end up 1-6? Guess that was a really hard group but that guy has been so hot lately.
skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
November 25 2011 12:26 GMT
#2075
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.

om how can it be shocking? naniwa beat sheth 2-1.............

im getting frustrated. dh don't just pick and choose who gets through, it's all in the rules. Besides it's a three way tie, they're all 2-1 and beat eachother. They count total games won vs total games lost. Naniwa did better in this group.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 25 2011 12:26 GMT
#2076
On November 25 2011 21:19 sixfour wrote:
this kind of squabbling over whether a group system like this or the gsl's system is better is silly. they're both bad.

LOL
Each time someone talk about the GSL in any topic, sixfour comes out of the wood to explain the world how this is SOOO bad, even if we're 100 pages into the thread and he hasn't posted in it still.
Do you have a bot that search for "GSL", and in the case someone positive was said about it, do your bot autopost "GSL format is so baaaaad".
Sorry to single you out, but I think I've never seen you post anything else than those kinds of one liners about how GSL is sooo baaaad. Even in totally unrelated threads. It's like you're in a crusade or something. The funny thing is that I think I've never seen you explain anything. It's sooo baaaad, that's all, no discussion.
Catbus
Profile Joined June 2011
80 Posts
November 25 2011 12:26 GMT
#2077
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.


And Naniwa beat Sheth who also had a 2-1 score, who should advance?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 25 2011 12:27 GMT
#2078
On November 25 2011 21:24 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:24 Frankon wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:22 gruff wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:21 Frankon wrote:
Yup. You could technically even lose more than two matches and still be in a tournament with this system.


How? Being 0-3 will never get you through.

Technically you could be 0-2 in one of the group stages and 0-1 in another group stage and still make it out.

You have to play all your matches. You can't be 0-2 or 0-1

^^ point taken (shouldnt write 0-2 )... But its possible to get out of a group with 2 loses. And in the next group once again with a loss.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:29:56
November 25 2011 12:28 GMT
#2079
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I didn't use enough words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament where only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, because it should be Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.

I had a good night of sleep.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 25 2011 12:28 GMT
#2080
On November 25 2011 21:26 Mouzone wrote:
Ow, how did Stephano end up 1-6? Guess that was a really hard group but that guy has been so hot lately.

He didn't play very well, that's all. He was already out for his last match so he 8 pooled with drones vs a terran to speed up the process it seems.
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