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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:30:53
November 25 2011 12:28 GMT
#2081
On November 25 2011 21:19 OrChard wrote:
HAHAHA
Stephano failed his plan :D
GG Naniwa


He failed his plan because he beat Could once. If Cloud went 2-0 then he and nani would be at 5-3 with the advantage going to Cloud cause he won the head to head. Good thing that didn't happen, the drama would have been out of control. Congrats to Naniwa, he deserved the spot.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:30:22
November 25 2011 12:29 GMT
#2082
On November 25 2011 21:26 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:21 TheHova wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:20 gruff wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:19 sixfour wrote:
this kind of squabbling over whether a group system like this or the gsl's system is better is silly. they're both bad.


They are not bad. Not flawless by any means but not bad.


I'd love to know what his idea of a perfect system is. This is about as traditional as it gets.


that a system is traditional does not make it good. you see things like group stages into knockout in things like, say, the world cup, because of logistical constraints which simply don't exist in an SC2 LAN, or at least not to the same extent.

14 hour days for Dreamhack... Yeah, not the same logistical restraints O_o (though it's DH's choice to have every game streamed).

Edit: And what the fuck is a better format/structure/whatever than Dual Tournament style?
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
letmegopls
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
105 Posts
November 25 2011 12:29 GMT
#2083
so idra and stephano are out of dh for good?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 25 2011 12:29 GMT
#2084
On November 25 2011 21:28 TheRidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:19 OrChard wrote:
HAHAHA
Stephano failed his plan :D
GG Naniwa


He failed his plan because he beat Could once. If Cloud went 2-0 then he and nani would be at 5-3 with the advantage going to Cloud cause he won the head to head. Congrats to Naniwa, he deserved the spot.

No, Cloud would just have been on 4-3. Naniwa would still have won.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 25 2011 12:30 GMT
#2085
On November 25 2011 21:28 TheRidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:19 OrChard wrote:
HAHAHA
Stephano failed his plan :D
GG Naniwa


He failed his plan because he beat Could once. If Cloud went 2-0 then he and nani would be at 5-3 with the advantage going to Cloud cause he won the head to head. Congrats to Naniwa, he deserved the spot.

Cloud would be 4-3 if he won 2-0 vs stephano so naniwa would still have the map advantage.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 25 2011 12:30 GMT
#2086
On November 25 2011 21:29 HALFKNOT wrote:
so idra and stephano are out of dh for good?

They are eliminated.
I had a good night of sleep.
Satyric
Profile Joined June 2011
68 Posts
November 25 2011 12:30 GMT
#2087
On November 25 2011 21:24 BurningSera wrote:
anyone knows the music they are playing now? it is not too bad :D (am watching day9's stream)


Skrillex - First of the year
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
November 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#2088
On November 25 2011 21:19 Burning wrote:
Just went through the rules and saw this:

Show nested quote +
Heart beat sensor
● The semi finals and the grand final will be played in the DreamArena AMD SAPPHIRE.
The four players will need to use a heart beat sensor during the matches.
● The Heart beat sensor will be attached with a stretchable belt around the chest. This will
be tried out in advance and attached before the final show begins.


Looks like a really cool feature


Hehe, that sounds pretty cool. I will be be interesting for sure :D
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:31:31
November 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#2089
MORROW, NANIWA, SASE, THORZAIN, SORTOF | NTH, PULSE, LGD.INT
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
November 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#2090
On November 25 2011 21:29 HALFKNOT wrote:
so idra and stephano are out of dh for good?

Yep, It's over for those 2 zergs.
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
November 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#2091
On November 25 2011 21:29 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:28 TheRidd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:19 OrChard wrote:
HAHAHA
Stephano failed his plan :D
GG Naniwa


He failed his plan because he beat Could once. If Cloud went 2-0 then he and nani would be at 5-3 with the advantage going to Cloud cause he won the head to head. Congrats to Naniwa, he deserved the spot.

No, Cloud would just have been on 4-3. Naniwa would still have won.

No, 5-3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#2092
On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

Show nested quote +
No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament were only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, but if there were Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.




I guess i agree with you, GSL format is good, IF they had BO3 games because BO1s are stupid idea and always will be. Like having a 1 set tennis match etc etc.

I dont mind how they did this tourney in DH but i just think the group draw for next round was very harsh on some players, EG team kill group and then theres group C (no offense to the players) but its very weak skilled people.

Gotta love how many tourneys are currently on going aswell!

GSL November
MLG Providence
ASUS ROG
NASL Season 2 Finals
DreamHack

So many tourneys these 2 months hard to keep up!
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VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#2093
On November 25 2011 21:31 126Q;A1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:19 Burning wrote:
Just went through the rules and saw this:

Heart beat sensor
● The semi finals and the grand final will be played in the DreamArena AMD SAPPHIRE.
The four players will need to use a heart beat sensor during the matches.
● The Heart beat sensor will be attached with a stretchable belt around the chest. This will
be tried out in advance and attached before the final show begins.


Looks like a really cool feature


Hehe, that sounds pretty cool. I will be be interesting for sure :D

I just hope players won't be affected by it. I would find it quite annoying.
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2094
Lol nyan cat...
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
r0x0r
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany293 Posts
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2095
Nyanyanyanyan....
"[...]and I think that many Korean players will go overseas to compete, because foreign fans have something korean fans don't have -- heart." - MMA
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2096
Nyaaan :3
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2097
Nyan on Tastosis~! <3
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:33:56
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2098
On November 25 2011 21:31 TheRidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:29 TheBB wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:28 TheRidd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:19 OrChard wrote:
HAHAHA
Stephano failed his plan :D
GG Naniwa


He failed his plan because he beat Could once. If Cloud went 2-0 then he and nani would be at 5-3 with the advantage going to Cloud cause he won the head to head. Congrats to Naniwa, he deserved the spot.

No, Cloud would just have been on 4-3. Naniwa would still have won.

No, 5-3

no 4-3
MORROW, NANIWA, SASE, THORZAIN, SORTOF | NTH, PULSE, LGD.INT
Project Psycho
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom329 Posts
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2099
On November 25 2011 21:24 Warpish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:21 Project Psycho wrote:
I think that is really shocking that naniwa advances, Cloud beat him and they both had a 2-1 record.


And if CLoud advanced, NaNi would be lef out even though he won against Sheth. Therefore the only (and best) solution is using maps won and maps lost as tiebreaker. It sucks for Cloud but the system is fair.


Yeah, i see it now, i just feel so bad for cloud after taking out a titan like naniwa and he still doesnt progress, but yeah the system is as fair as it can be.
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:33:20
November 25 2011 12:32 GMT
#2100
Eugh, I can't believe how much I feel like moaning about an hour's wait for games lmao

WHY THE FUCK DO THEY NEED LUNCH FOR

edit: although they could of course have staggered the streams/play rather than having a universal lunch.
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
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