• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:12
CET 07:12
KST 15:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview1Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
KSL Week 85 HomeStory Cup 28 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1429 users

DreamHack Winter 2011 Day 2 - Page 101

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 99 100 101 102 103 299 Next
Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#2001
On November 25 2011 21:10 eteran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:08 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:06 eteran wrote:
imho Naniwa is through, because there is a 3 way tie now.

Sheth 1-1 3:2
Naniwa 1-1 3:3
ClouD 1-1 2:3

Sheth is 5-2, Nani is 5-3, Cloud is 4-4. Nani and Sheth through.


Depends if they consider direct results > mapdiff or the other way arround.
Anyways, seems like Nani advances either way.

It's confirmed map scores I think. Even if it's head to head results, Sheth>Cloud>Nani>Sheth, with no clear winner, so it will go to map scores. Sheth and Nani advances.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
November 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#2002
On November 25 2011 21:12 Triarier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


You can play the GSL format with BO1. It is just not round robin, where people who will advance for sure, throw their games.

His point was the GSL is played using Bo1s in the group stage.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
November 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#2003
So many games to come, on three streams (which actually show different games), 3 great casting duo's. I LOVE YOU DREAMHACK.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2004
rofl i love the music choice
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2005
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


There is no reason (strictly from a format point of view) for not doing Bo3 in the group stages for GSL. That would potetionally triple the amount of games though.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2006
On November 25 2011 21:09 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:08 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Naniwa prevailed and the king sits safe on his throne. God that was tense.


How is Naniwa the king?


I wrote about the real king.

On November 25 2011 20:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:40 MBH wrote:
Stephano lacked motivation because he knew he was already out.
Accusing him of match fixing or ill intent torwards naniwa is simply childish and dump.
Or a Sc2 LR Thread.


He failed Sweden and the Swedish people will pick up their pitchforks and march to the castle to dethrone the French-blooded king, Carl XVI Gustaf.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2007
the result would be the same if direct confrontation was the first tiebreaker. It's really not so hard to calculate.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2008
That music <3
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2009
On November 25 2011 21:10 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 qbs wrote:
so the maps matter not the direct confrontation ? O.o

I don't see what's so bad about this.


no my mistake sry : P all make sense
DeMusliM !!!
morninglightmountain
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom23 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2010
I love watching Sheth play. Even when he loses....... Flanks and counterattacks constantly - feels like the way zerg should be played.



Plus loving the trolling on the tastosis stream... epic
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2011
On November 25 2011 21:11 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.

You could translate a winner's/loser's match format into BO3 and change nothing (probably save time by avoiding tiebreaks) without issues.


The point of group play is to see how everybody in the group performs relative to everybody else, not relative to one other particular player. So going by map score makes total sense.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:15:38
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2012
On November 25 2011 21:12 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


I like the dreamhack format way way way more.
My only complaint is that when there is a tie in points (won maps and h2h results don't matter)
The 2 players play a Bo1 to see who goes to the next round.
3way tie would be a bit more tricky tho

Would rather have Bo3 tbh, they've no more matches today, and could easily fit in a unstreamed couple of Bo3s


The point of group play is to see how everybody in the group performs relative to everybody else, not relative to one other particular player. So going by map score makes total sense.

It doesn't make total sense, since every player has different amounts of games played. For it to make sense, the third game would have to be played out every time, no matter the outcome of the first two.
Triarier
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria155 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2013
On November 25 2011 21:12 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:12 Triarier wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


You can play the GSL format with BO1. It is just not round robin, where people who will advance for sure, throw their games.

His point was the GSL is played using Bo1s in the group stage.


Yes, i meant you could play GSL format with BO3s. I just didnt write it ^^
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2014
Sick Music, this guy is an unknown hero of DHW!
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2015
I'm sad for Stephano :-( Now rooting for ToD and Huk, one of them must go to Blizzard Cup
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2016
For people saying Sheth "threw the match" because he was already through..

You understand that if Naniwa lost, he would be out of the tourney right? Naniwa, one of the strongest contenders to win the tourney, you don't think Sheth wanted to get rid of him so he doesn't knock him out later?

Jesus.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2017
Stephano gave Cloud a free-win. Sheth gave Naniwa a free win. Equals out (For the conspiracy-lovers)
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2018
I want this chiptune playlist that is running on the Apollo stream
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2019
that song reminds me of this one:

"Someday mother will die and I'll get the money". Hah.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2020
The music keeps getting better. From Abba to Stephen Lynch to Deadmau5!
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
Prev 1 99 100 101 102 103 299 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 48m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 109
ProTech108
Nina 94
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4974
PianO 307
ZergMaN 90
Shuttle 66
Shine 45
Shinee 34
Bale 31
ToSsGirL 15
Icarus 7
NotJumperer 1
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm107
League of Legends
JimRising 800
C9.Mang0529
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King38
Other Games
RuFF_SC295
febbydoto47
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1806
• Rush1016
• Lourlo927
• Stunt178
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
5h 48m
Korean StarCraft League
20h 48m
HomeStory Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-29
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.