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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#2001
On November 25 2011 21:10 eteran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:08 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:06 eteran wrote:
imho Naniwa is through, because there is a 3 way tie now.

Sheth 1-1 3:2
Naniwa 1-1 3:3
ClouD 1-1 2:3

Sheth is 5-2, Nani is 5-3, Cloud is 4-4. Nani and Sheth through.


Depends if they consider direct results > mapdiff or the other way arround.
Anyways, seems like Nani advances either way.

It's confirmed map scores I think. Even if it's head to head results, Sheth>Cloud>Nani>Sheth, with no clear winner, so it will go to map scores. Sheth and Nani advances.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
November 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#2002
On November 25 2011 21:12 Triarier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


You can play the GSL format with BO1. It is just not round robin, where people who will advance for sure, throw their games.

His point was the GSL is played using Bo1s in the group stage.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
November 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#2003
So many games to come, on three streams (which actually show different games), 3 great casting duo's. I LOVE YOU DREAMHACK.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2004
rofl i love the music choice
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Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2005
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


There is no reason (strictly from a format point of view) for not doing Bo3 in the group stages for GSL. That would potetionally triple the amount of games though.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2006
On November 25 2011 21:09 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
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On November 25 2011 21:08 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Naniwa prevailed and the king sits safe on his throne. God that was tense.


How is Naniwa the king?


I wrote about the real king.

On November 25 2011 20:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:40 MBH wrote:
Stephano lacked motivation because he knew he was already out.
Accusing him of match fixing or ill intent torwards naniwa is simply childish and dump.
Or a Sc2 LR Thread.


He failed Sweden and the Swedish people will pick up their pitchforks and march to the castle to dethrone the French-blooded king, Carl XVI Gustaf.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2007
the result would be the same if direct confrontation was the first tiebreaker. It's really not so hard to calculate.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2008
That music <3
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2009
On November 25 2011 21:10 TheBB wrote:
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On November 25 2011 21:10 qbs wrote:
so the maps matter not the direct confrontation ? O.o

I don't see what's so bad about this.


no my mistake sry : P all make sense
DeMusliM !!!
morninglightmountain
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom23 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2010
I love watching Sheth play. Even when he loses....... Flanks and counterattacks constantly - feels like the way zerg should be played.



Plus loving the trolling on the tastosis stream... epic
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 25 2011 12:13 GMT
#2011
On November 25 2011 21:11 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.

You could translate a winner's/loser's match format into BO3 and change nothing (probably save time by avoiding tiebreaks) without issues.


The point of group play is to see how everybody in the group performs relative to everybody else, not relative to one other particular player. So going by map score makes total sense.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:15:38
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2012
On November 25 2011 21:12 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


I like the dreamhack format way way way more.
My only complaint is that when there is a tie in points (won maps and h2h results don't matter)
The 2 players play a Bo1 to see who goes to the next round.
3way tie would be a bit more tricky tho

Would rather have Bo3 tbh, they've no more matches today, and could easily fit in a unstreamed couple of Bo3s


The point of group play is to see how everybody in the group performs relative to everybody else, not relative to one other particular player. So going by map score makes total sense.

It doesn't make total sense, since every player has different amounts of games played. For it to make sense, the third game would have to be played out every time, no matter the outcome of the first two.
Triarier
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria155 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2013
On November 25 2011 21:12 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:12 Triarier wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:10 pdd wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

The people screaming Bo1 is shit will beg to differ.


You can play the GSL format with BO1. It is just not round robin, where people who will advance for sure, throw their games.

His point was the GSL is played using Bo1s in the group stage.


Yes, i meant you could play GSL format with BO3s. I just didnt write it ^^
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2014
Sick Music, this guy is an unknown hero of DHW!
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2015
I'm sad for Stephano :-( Now rooting for ToD and Huk, one of them must go to Blizzard Cup
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 25 2011 12:14 GMT
#2016
For people saying Sheth "threw the match" because he was already through..

You understand that if Naniwa lost, he would be out of the tourney right? Naniwa, one of the strongest contenders to win the tourney, you don't think Sheth wanted to get rid of him so he doesn't knock him out later?

Jesus.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2017
Stephano gave Cloud a free-win. Sheth gave Naniwa a free win. Equals out (For the conspiracy-lovers)
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2018
I want this chiptune playlist that is running on the Apollo stream
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2019
that song reminds me of this one:

"Someday mother will die and I'll get the money". Hah.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
November 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#2020
The music keeps getting better. From Abba to Stephen Lynch to Deadmau5!
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