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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
November 20 2011 23:07 GMT
#11121
On November 21 2011 08:04 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:03 TheResidentEvil wrote:
I am not complaining about two base timings however you cant deny the proof. Naniwa has done 2 base timings all tournament. (not that there is anything wrong with that), twobaseiwa fits

He abuses at what protoss is best at.


Well every game that I've watched it have hit the same time as spire is going up (zerg is banking) +/or expansions are going up. This is why mutas where out of PvZ for a while, now Naniwa have found the perfect timing to deny muta play (I mean DRG had gold base running for a while and killed of a bunch of zealots).
Toast and coffe
bHawk
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
November 20 2011 23:07 GMT
#11122
Anyone remember how Naniwa stated that he was going to win in Providence after winning Dallas. Looks a promise right now.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 20 2011 23:07 GMT
#11123
On November 21 2011 08:03 haka wrote:
as a toss, i really can't see what zerg can do in that position. ff's are pretty strong.



It all goes back to the gold. He took a base he couldn't defend. He probably overdroned because he saw the robo bay being constructed... So he figured he had a few minutes... But Nani only made 1 and no range. Just to help out with lings.

If he had taken normal bases and just made enough units he could hold it. It's not an invincible push...
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
P3rytt
Profile Joined August 2011
137 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11124
America f yeah!!!!!
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11125
Wow I just realized Nani has lost so much weight... Is he working out in Korea or should we start to get worried about his crazy practice negatively affecting his health?
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11126
On November 21 2011 08:07 BritWrangler wrote:
It's so frustrating how someone as mediocre as Naniwa can win >.<

ALL of his units are on 1 hotkey and he just amoves his zealots and stalkers at the same time....URRRGGGHHHH


Let's just ignore his amazing collosus save there whilst being flanked....
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11127
On November 21 2011 08:05 hifriend wrote:
all the people commenting "all in" "2 base" etc are clearly idiots

nani's decision making and micro during that entire game was impeccable

drg was the one that went hidden gold, which is per definition an economic cheese (pray to god it doesn't get scouted too early, or you'll lose)

The two base timing was, additionally, a reactionary decision based on scouting intel. It was the correct decision.


This is true. The immediate decision to go for 8 gates in response to the gold base was a brilliant reaction. Everything about his play this tourney has been top notch.

I'm so disappointed that we will most likely have a 2-0 up bo7 final though. Would think for the 50k game they would make it a straight up bo5 or something. Makes no sense.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11128
Naniwa did the right thing by going 2 base all-in against early gold. But goddamn DRG should have been able to hold that pathetic on his part, he should be so much better than that.

I really hope leenock wins, I don't want to see DRG's pathetic ZvP get crushed again by getting 2 based like that.

If he does win please prove me wrong and make a longer than 12 minute game please.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11129
drg was going for muta. he had like no units both games for almost the entire duration until he saw nani's army
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11130
On November 21 2011 08:07 Shackadeemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:05 chrissummers wrote:
2 base all in on small maps... yea very impressive play. oh wait.

it is pretty much bit by bit 2.0

Right, so his micro in those battles was not impressive to you? Oh, and PS Bit by Bit never made an expansion...


Yeah, because it takes a lot of talent to take an blind early gold base.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11131
i feel like the korean style zvp of high econ low tech is just a build order loss to two-base senty/colossus.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11132
On November 21 2011 08:02 denzelz wrote:
A 2 base Protoss beats a 3 base Zerg with a gold base. That makes a lot off sense.

It actually does, when Naniwa decides to go Colossus and he stays ling/roach.
Brain! Activate!

As much as I wanted DRG to kick Naniwas ass, Naniwa is simple Stephano-godlike right now.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11133
Stop whining about timing attacks. He does the build he thinks will win with what tools he has. Not like he's gonna screw up winning 50k USD only to please you numbnuts.
mcleod
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada350 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11134
On November 21 2011 08:05 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:04 windsupernova wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:01 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:59 WArped wrote:
Another 2 base all-in from NaNiwa.



Seriously, people saying that he is allin on 2 base. I don't get it :p. 2base allin doesn't exist.


Nah this is definitively an all in.

To really identify an all in just ask yourself something.

If he loses the battle will be be behind or in an unwinnable position? If its the later its is an all in

people need to learn the difference between Cheese and All-in.

Cheeses tend to be All-ins, but not every All-in is a Cheese. But people equate it to a cheese and automatically assume that if you have more than 1 base you cant be all in.

people also need to learn that sometimes u need to go ALL IN
if naniwa tries to take a third and play a macro game, he most likely loses
he made the right decision in that situation
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11135
On November 21 2011 08:06 superjoppe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:05 chrissummers wrote:
2 base all in on small maps... yea very impressive play. oh wait.

it is pretty much bit by bit 2.0

Go watch Broodwar TvT if that's what you want.


Dude, Canata TvT is what I miss the most in SC2.

SlayerS_Canata Lim Yohwan? plx kk?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11136
Naniwa.....y u so good.....?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11137
Naniwa is a lot like Huk with they both Practice their hearts out and are very hard workers and it shows with their move to Korea.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11138
listening to all that kpop, must have helped naniwa
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11139
On November 21 2011 08:06 superjoppe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:05 chrissummers wrote:
2 base all in on small maps... yea very impressive play. oh wait.

it is pretty much bit by bit 2.0

Go watch Broodwar TvT if that's what you want.


There are an absolute ton of pro players who don't 2 base. In fact there are very few players I would say 2base consistently.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
November 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#11140
On November 21 2011 08:05 chrissummers wrote:
2 base all in on small maps... yea very impressive play. oh wait.

it is pretty much bit by bit 2.0


Comments like these are completely idiotic. Get some game knowledge before you make dumb comments like this. dual sight is ridiculously hard to take a 3rd as protoss, thats why he 2 based. Metalopolis if you FFE and the zerg takes the gold base you are compeltely forced to 2 base. Theres no way you can hold your 3rd with the ridiculous amount of lings/roaches hell be able to produce early game.
Jieun <3
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