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Unless Stephano all kills or takes out at least 4, Slayers wins.
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Tarson holds & Stephano wins!
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On November 16 2011 15:18 Dexington wrote:
Unless Stephano all kills or takes out at least 4, Slayers wins.
A ton of people are saying this.
No pressure or anything Stephano!
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On November 16 2011 15:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 14:34 red4ce wrote:On November 16 2011 14:16 HolyArrow wrote:On November 16 2011 13:59 red4ce wrote:On November 16 2011 13:47 HolyArrow wrote:On November 16 2011 13:25 babylon wrote:On November 16 2011 13:19 red4ce wrote:On November 16 2011 13:09 1Eris1 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:05 red4ce wrote:On November 16 2011 13:02 1Eris1 wrote:
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rofl no, Stephano is nowhere near the level of the top of Code S yet, please stop overhyping him.
he lost to Boxer ffs, and then to goody. GOODY I'm a certified Stephano 'hater', but I respect his skill. My annoyance at Stephano fans is nothing compared to by dislike for SlayerS. Explain to me your reasoning then? He beat MMA in online qualifiers, and then later thestc (code A)+lucky (code B?). (maybe one or two more code a players I'm forgetting here) Since then, thestc has beat him and then he's lost to boxer. I think he beat Tails (code B?) as well. I don't know where people are getting the notion that he can suddenly steam roll code S level players. edit: Just because you dislike Slayers does not mean they are not the no.1/no.2 team right now I know all that. I use these same results when Stephano fanatics get too annoying. Lol #1/#2 team. They were exposed in the most recent GSTL. B teamers from any Korean team could have all-killed Acer and Atn. Their wins in GSTL2 and 3 were on MMA's shoulders. Ganzi has since become an elite player but the rest are middle of the road players not substantially different than the ones Stephano beat in IPL3. Your hate for SlayerS is fascinating. I can't believe someone would actually be an anti-fan of an entire team of players. If anything, what he said about them having 2 elite players and a ton of mediocre players is more fascinating, because I cannot see where he's coming from at all. I wonder what his metric is for differentiating an elite player from a mediocre one? MMA and Ganzi aside, Ryung, Puzzle, Taeja, and, until recently, CoCa, are all Code S players and have all pulled their own weight among the best in the Korean scene. Taeja has been dominating the Korean weeklies, as the only player with 6 first-place finishes in those small tournaments (other players only have at most 1 first-place finish), while Puzzle won Code A without dropping a set until the finals, while Ryung and CoCa have just shown fairly strong performances all-around. The GSTL2 win on MMA's shoulders? He must be forgetting that Alicia got Slayers 3 kills right from the start in the final match against IM, putting them way ahead (and importantly so, since it took Ryung, Ganzi, and MMA to finally take down MVP - and let's not forget Ryung's crucial role in shifting the momentum of the match in the game against Yonghwa, and wearing down MVP in a long, exhausting, well-fought macro game). He underplays the role the rest of SlayerS played in their GSTL championships, which I honestly find highly unfair and short-sighted - just because MMA played the role of the ace doesn't mean the other team didn't do anything. Sure, red4ce may be of the opinion that SlayerS is a crappy team, but his reasons for thinking so are very badly supported, if they have any sort of truth to them at all. I fully admit that I am a SlayerS fan, but my convictions aside, the arguments he makes in support of his opinion are objectively terrible. If he can elaborate on his statements to perhaps clear up ambiguities that caused me to misinterpret them, then I fully welcome that, but as things stand now, I see no validity in any of his reasons for disliking SlayerS. It seems I've thrown this thread way too far off course and I apologize for that. You think SlayerS is good, I don't. You like SlayerS, I don't. I don't care why you like Slayers and you shouldn't care why I dislike SlayerS. It's easy to fall back on some sort of statement like "That's my opinion, you have yours, let's just keep it at that" when you get the points supported your opinion picked at. The problem is that your reasons for disliking SlayerS basically boiled down to "Everyone is mediocre except MMA and Ganzi, and MMA carried them to victory in GSTL 2 and 3". Meanwhile, as you say that, SlayerS has the most players in Code S out of any other team (or close to that, IIRC), while I can easily cite examples as I did before of Alicia and Ryung pulling plenty of weight in GSTL 2 (and, if I were to go back to GSTL 3, I could definitely find other examples - for example, I recall Taeja getting an all-kill, which is inarguably a big contribution to the team's GSTL progress). Basically, I can take all your reasons for disliking SlayerS and come up with counterexamples, and even if you back up and say "Ok, but that's just my opinion", that doesn't really work, because your opinion is predicated upon all those reasons that I just countered, which is why I invited you to elaborate (even in a PM, but I suspect that you're just not interested enough to keep up this discussion, though I'm certainly open to it). Now, if you said something truly subjective, like "I dislike the personalities of various players of theirs from various interviews I've read from them", then fine - I can't argue with that. But instead, you choose to try to discuss the abilities of their players, and since GSTL/Code A/S results and standings readily exist to provide some objective insight into a discussion about player ability, your opinion becomes much more vulnerable. Taeja: I put very little stock in online competitions. I believe in SC2 as an e-sport and thus live competition is the ultimate measure of strength. Online tournaments only measure potential; how good a player could be in ideal circumstances. Taeja still hasn't made it out of group stages in code S. That's all that matters to me. But if Taeja is played he will not be performing on a stage but online. How does his inability to impress in front of a crowd factor into this team series?
Good point. I can't say much about that. +1 logic for you CosmicSpiral. Won't change my mind though.
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People calling someone in Code A & S 'medicore' makes me sad  .
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I just don't see it happening for Millenium, but then again I haven't seen Tarson, Lalush or Adel much recently, so maybe they have really improved. Regardless, if SlayerS wants to win it, they can do so easily by playing their best players. I'm beginning to wonder if SlayerS will ever lose (to a foreign team) since they are already a very strong team in the GSTL.
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Go Slayers, get the 5 team kill streak! But I think Millenium can definitely give them a run for their money!
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Tarson is inactive again I'm pretty sure. Will be hard for Millenium unless Stephano takes our nearly all the players 
Lol @ SlayerS being a mediocre team, I'm not a fan of SlayerS but that's totally incorrect.
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Tarson all kill incoming.
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Millennium will be on the brink of losing the ace match, Stephano already beaten and cast aside. MMA moves in to make the final killing blow with his 1-1-1, and Tarson WILL HOLD!
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On November 16 2011 13:09 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 13:05 red4ce wrote:On November 16 2011 13:02 1Eris1 wrote:On November 16 2011 12:59 red4ce wrote:
The only chance for Slayers to beat Stephano is Ganzi taking him down or one of the zergs getting a lucky BO win. Once/If Stephano loses the rest of Millenium will be a walkover. rofl no, Stephano is nowhere near the level of the top of Code S yet, please stop overhyping him. he lost to Boxer ffs, and then to goody. GOODY I'm a certified Stephano 'hater', but I respect his skill. My annoyance at Stephano fans is nothing compared to by dislike for SlayerS. Explain to me your reasoning then? He beat MMA in online qualifiers, and then later thestc (code A)+lucky (code B?). (maybe one or two more code a players I'm forgetting here) Since then, thestc has beat him and then he's lost to boxer. I think he beat Tails (code B?) as well. I don't know where people are getting the notion that he can suddenly steam roll code S level players. edit: Just because you dislike Slayers does not mean they are not the no.1/no.2 team right now
He still beat mma 2-0 at eswc you know ;p just joking. Stephano should be favored against b-teamers but the b-team could practice to snipe him while the a-team prolly won't invest the time in it.... Strange situation but i see a 5-1 or 5-2 coming from slayers. Maybe closer if they send only b-teamers..
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This team arena thing is so much fun. Excelllent format to have (Team King of the Hill). I've been absolutely loving it and this weekend's episode might be the best one yet.
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I can see Adelscott maybe taking a PvP if he faces Alicia or Puzzle, and Stephano can take down a lot of players but I'm not sure he is good enough yet to take down an MMA, Ganzi or Taeja level player just yet.
5-2 to SlayerS
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Crank > DieStar
Crank > Adelscott
Crank > Tarson
Crank > LaLush
Crank < Stephano
Golden < Stephano
Dragon < Stephano
Ryung > Stephano
5-3 SlayerS
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am i the only one who predict stephano could loose his first (and only) game ?
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On November 16 2011 19:40 JohnMatrix wrote:
am i the only one who predict stephano could loose his first (and only) game ?
No.
Everything is possible in SC2 right now. MMA could also loose he first and only game.
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It's BO1 guys, any of these guys could loose or win.
Overall result shoud go towards SlayerS, but I wouldn't call scores yet.
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with stephano beasting it up and good backup players like lalush adelscott and tarson and okish die star with up and coming feast may have a realistic chance
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Go Millenium ! Do it for French eSports !
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Slayers (and other Korean players) have mentioned that Stephano is a top zerg so I bet they would have studied him. He might get shut down hard if that occurs.
And in that case Mill's chances look slim.
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EPT
