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On November 14 2011 12:02 kiy0 wrote:
Infestors? Np, I got ghosts.
Mutas? Np, I got ghosts.
Broodlords? Np, I got ghosts.
Ultras? Np, I got ghosts.
Yet again...
Well Dimaga didn't have Mutas or Broodlords so that isn't exactly correct. TBH Puma did a huge amount of damage with that BFH/marine drop, and Terran being on 3base vs 3base for the longest time isn't typically good for Zerg, even if the Zerg was slightly ahead in upgrades. Even at 200/200 the first time around, Puma had 5k banked compared to 1k for Dimaga, Dimaga was always stretched thin for resources because he couldn't really get an operational 4th till really late (after Puma's 4th).
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Didn't like Dimaga's ZvT today. Sure it worked out great against an overly aggressive Puma in Game 1 but in Game 3 Puma absolutely demolished that passive style. It can't be enough to just sit there tech to Ultras and double expand after that while not harassing at all.
To blame this game on Ghosts is really dumb since Puma had a huge advantage entering the mid game and Dimaga did nothing to try to gain back some momentum he just turtled while Puma was able to take both gold expansions.
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On November 14 2011 12:01 RPR_Tempest wrote:
A bit of a premature gg, I think. He had 4k mins and gas banked up, and his greater spire was done. Sure, broodlords can be sniped, but that's IdrA style gg timing. I think he was so frustrated, which is why he said "..." that he just gave up.
The terran was dug in right between dimaga's bases, dimaga was almost mined out, and puma was set to take every other base on the map. Dimaga was done.
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On November 14 2011 12:04 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before? Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA.
Whether NA, EU, or KR you should never let a terran get his fourth base up before yours, especially at the gold. And he never scouted it, that irks me so much. Information is so important when you're playing zerg, and he was playing blind that entire third game. The unscouted ghosts was the icing on the cake.
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On November 14 2011 12:04 hkf wrote:
banelings > ghosts
It takes 5 banelings to kill a ghost how are they better?
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On November 14 2011 12:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:04 nokz88 wrote:On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before? Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA. Whether NA, EU, or KR you should never let a terran get his fourth base up before yours, especially at the gold. And he never scouted it, that irks me so much. Information is so important when you're playing zerg, and he was playing blind that entire third game. The unscouted ghosts was the icing on the cake.
There are things you dont even need to scout. I think one problem was taking that gold/bases on the upper left instead of down right. But even then, the fact that terran can basically protect his goldbase and make the other one unusable at the same time is just brutal. And I doubt you can really break this. And once the gold is up youre pretty much dead :/
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On November 14 2011 12:04 hkf wrote:
banelings > ghosts
true but what if there are 10 sieged tanks behind these ghosts?
drops would be a way though.
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On November 14 2011 12:09 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:It takes 5 banelings to kill a ghost how are they better? Not to mention you can split your ghosts and snipe them EZ.
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LOL that Queen with 90 energy.
No wonder Moman is winless this season. 10 minutes in...
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Man Tyler and MoMan are so bad.
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Tyler-Providence 2012 I believe
edit:2011 -.-
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On November 14 2011 12:11 -y0shi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:On November 14 2011 12:04 nokz88 wrote:On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before? Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA. Whether NA, EU, or KR you should never let a terran get his fourth base up before yours, especially at the gold. And he never scouted it, that irks me so much. Information is so important when you're playing zerg, and he was playing blind that entire third game. The unscouted ghosts was the icing on the cake. There are things you dont even need to scout. I think one problem was taking that gold/bases on the upper left instead of down right. But even then, the fact that terran can basically protect his goldbase and make the other one unusable at the same time is just brutal. And I doubt you can really break this. And once the gold is up youre pretty much dead :/
That's why you go muta/ling on that map instead of ling/infestor. You can constantly threaten counterattacks as well as punish terrans who try to expand away from their third. Ling/infestor is bad when you play it defensively and terran decides to expand and macro instead of attack.
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amazing game by tyler and moman... [/sarcasm]
you see 2 voids and 4 pheonix, and stop queen production at 4. brilliant.
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Well well, that's an automatic win.
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Lol that probe denied the spawning pool for so long, terrible play.
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The zerg looks pretty dead here.
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game over.
edit: that game made me sad, it was just so sad
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Get proxied, make drones.
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EPT
