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Monday, Nov 14 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU: Monday, Nov 14 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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The last day!
Okay I have been wrong in the past but I will try once again to say what I think is up for grabs:
The winner of Dimaga and Puma goes to the finals. Exciting!
Tyler and TLO can both secure a spot in next season if they win their match. If one of them loses then White-Ra gets to play next season. If both lose then Inka gets the other last season spot.
So all the games have quite a bit on the line. Should be a good day of SC2.
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On November 14 2011 08:58 Geos13 wrote:
The last day!
Okay I have been wrong in the past but I will try once again to say what I think is up for grabs:
The winner of Dimaga and Puma goes to the finals. Exciting!
Tyler and TLO can both secure a spot in next season if they win their match. If one of them loses then White-Ra gets to play next season. If both lose then Inka gets the other last season spot.
So all the games have quite a bit on the line. Should be a good day of SC2.
All correct. Moman is out already.
Edit: Actually, WR and Inka are tied, so I don't know how they break that tie to decide who is eliminated, should that scenario arise.
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I figured White-Ra would be ahead of Inka because he has more wins but that is only a guess.
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Puma vs. Dimaga should be a fun one.
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Moman's out already? nooooooooo!
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Should be an interesting day...can't wait!
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Nooooooo Gunrun, not Orb 
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I think Puma vs Dimaga is the battle for the 1st place if I'm not mistaken. Epic...
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When gunrun said "oh nice" I felt like he was hitting on me :-p
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Really unique, sick play by Dimaga. FAST Hive.
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damnn, puma so good but he lost T_T
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dimaaaaaga
upgrades at 3/2 vs 1/0
I wonder if dimaga was planning to neural medivacs. He was upgrading NP, but he knew there was a factory floating over his 3rd base, so no tanks or anything.
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Come on Puma = /. Shouldn't be losing like this
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United States15275 Posts
Oh no, not Metalopolis.
Please survive Dimaga. T_T
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On November 14 2011 11:22 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Oh no, not Metalopolis.
Please survive Dimaga. T_T
Metalopolis is a terrific zerg map, especially cross spawns
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i cant believe dimaga is losing this
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United States15275 Posts
Dimaga why you make such a noob mistake? Always make spinecrawlers at your outward expansions.
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ncie play by puma. risky expo but it payed off
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i hate tvz on antiga, so fucking hard to defend muta harrass T.T
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United States15275 Posts
A roach-ling all-in would be really nice right about now.
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Russian Federation4 Posts
What's the obbs????dimaga vs puma??
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Holy Creep spread batman going to be pretty epic engagement
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Russian Federation4 Posts
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"ghosts not doing much"
really gretorp? does killing every ultra with snipe not count?
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Wow...worst way to engage there dimaga
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United States15275 Posts
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before?
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Dimaga's playstyle makes me speechless. Does he not realize how weak ultras are if you use them in every freaking game?
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lol... "Ghosts aren't doing that much" -Gretorp, just before 7 ultras melted-
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This is so intense...come on DIMAGA!
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Russian Federation4 Posts
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The middle high ground definitely favours terran...I just feel like ultras are not the correct way to bust that...
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Ghosts are so damn powerful my God.
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That's uh, too many ghosts for Dimaga I think.
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DIMAGA getting a spire for broodlords, but he doesn't have time. Every second that gold base is up PuMa gets more and more ahead.
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Dimaga at 4k/4k...150 supply? has he given up?
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snipe isn't OP, lol
User was temp banned for this post.
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ROFL, Dimaga why so angry man? If your that bothered by ghosts switch to terran.
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oh boy. how? that is rather broken.
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On November 14 2011 12:00 foxmeep wrote:
snipe isn't OP, lol
Not really, going mass ultras is just stupid. it works 10% of the time, if even that
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omg. i hate terrans but puma is really good
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gretorp is right. you beat that with drops.
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ehhh. Not the ending this series deserved.
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Sorry Dimaga, you are only equal-skilled with Puma.
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A bit of a premature gg, I think. He had 4k mins and gas banked up, and his greater spire was done. Sure, broodlords can be sniped, but that's IdrA style gg timing. I think he was so frustrated, which is why he said "..." that he just gave up.
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Wow.. dimaga not happy with that game. Nydus worms or drops would have been interesting.
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I knew how that would end 20 minutes ago... Siege up on the highground and then youre invincible. Then zerg can sit and wait and let you abuse him.. bah. Maybe its the goldbases, if terra holds them you cant do anything to them
I can atleast understand why dimaga is pissed, yeah he has soo much money but what would you ever throw at that army?
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Infestors? Np, I got ghosts.
Mutas? Np, I got ghosts.
Broodlords? Np, I got ghosts.
Ultras? Np, I got ghosts.
Yet again...
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He was going to lose his last 2 mining bases before any BL were up.
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United States15275 Posts
Dimaga's style gets progressively weaker and weaker as the game goes on since he plays it defensively. It gives any macro terran all the time in the world to choose when he expands and what army composition he wants. He should've played to the map and went ling/muta.
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Oh well. One fan favorite down. Now it's time for Tyler fighting.
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err... is it just me or is the op really fucked up. Looks like something is wrong with the code
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On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before?
Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA.
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Russian Federation4 Posts
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On November 14 2011 12:02 kiy0 wrote:
Infestors? Np, I got ghosts.
Mutas? Np, I got ghosts.
Broodlords? Np, I got ghosts.
Ultras? Np, I got ghosts.
Yet again...
Well Dimaga didn't have Mutas or Broodlords so that isn't exactly correct. TBH Puma did a huge amount of damage with that BFH/marine drop, and Terran being on 3base vs 3base for the longest time isn't typically good for Zerg, even if the Zerg was slightly ahead in upgrades. Even at 200/200 the first time around, Puma had 5k banked compared to 1k for Dimaga, Dimaga was always stretched thin for resources because he couldn't really get an operational 4th till really late (after Puma's 4th).
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Didn't like Dimaga's ZvT today. Sure it worked out great against an overly aggressive Puma in Game 1 but in Game 3 Puma absolutely demolished that passive style. It can't be enough to just sit there tech to Ultras and double expand after that while not harassing at all.
To blame this game on Ghosts is really dumb since Puma had a huge advantage entering the mid game and Dimaga did nothing to try to gain back some momentum he just turtled while Puma was able to take both gold expansions.
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On November 14 2011 12:01 RPR_Tempest wrote:
A bit of a premature gg, I think. He had 4k mins and gas banked up, and his greater spire was done. Sure, broodlords can be sniped, but that's IdrA style gg timing. I think he was so frustrated, which is why he said "..." that he just gave up.
The terran was dug in right between dimaga's bases, dimaga was almost mined out, and puma was set to take every other base on the map. Dimaga was done.
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United States15275 Posts
On November 14 2011 12:04 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before? Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA.
Whether NA, EU, or KR you should never let a terran get his fourth base up before yours, especially at the gold. And he never scouted it, that irks me so much. Information is so important when you're playing zerg, and he was playing blind that entire third game. The unscouted ghosts was the icing on the cake.
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On November 14 2011 12:04 hkf wrote:
banelings > ghosts
It takes 5 banelings to kill a ghost how are they better?
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On November 14 2011 12:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:04 nokz88 wrote:On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before? Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA. Whether NA, EU, or KR you should never let a terran get his fourth base up before yours, especially at the gold. And he never scouted it, that irks me so much. Information is so important when you're playing zerg, and he was playing blind that entire third game. The unscouted ghosts was the icing on the cake.
There are things you dont even need to scout. I think one problem was taking that gold/bases on the upper left instead of down right. But even then, the fact that terran can basically protect his goldbase and make the other one unusable at the same time is just brutal. And I doubt you can really break this. And once the gold is up youre pretty much dead :/
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On November 14 2011 12:04 hkf wrote:
banelings > ghosts
true but what if there are 10 sieged tanks behind these ghosts?
drops would be a way though.
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On November 14 2011 12:09 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:It takes 5 banelings to kill a ghost how are they better? Not to mention you can split your ghosts and snipe them EZ.
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LOL that Queen with 90 energy.
No wonder Moman is winless this season. 10 minutes in...
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Man Tyler and MoMan are so bad.
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Tyler-Providence 2012 I believe
edit:2011 -.-
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United States15275 Posts
On November 14 2011 12:11 -y0shi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:On November 14 2011 12:04 nokz88 wrote:On November 14 2011 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
...has Dimaga never played against a macro Terran before? Maybe Dimaga has never played against a Terran of this caliber. Kimchi Terrans are just another level from EU or NA. Whether NA, EU, or KR you should never let a terran get his fourth base up before yours, especially at the gold. And he never scouted it, that irks me so much. Information is so important when you're playing zerg, and he was playing blind that entire third game. The unscouted ghosts was the icing on the cake. There are things you dont even need to scout. I think one problem was taking that gold/bases on the upper left instead of down right. But even then, the fact that terran can basically protect his goldbase and make the other one unusable at the same time is just brutal. And I doubt you can really break this. And once the gold is up youre pretty much dead :/
That's why you go muta/ling on that map instead of ling/infestor. You can constantly threaten counterattacks as well as punish terrans who try to expand away from their third. Ling/infestor is bad when you play it defensively and terran decides to expand and macro instead of attack.
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amazing game by tyler and moman... [/sarcasm]
you see 2 voids and 4 pheonix, and stop queen production at 4. brilliant.
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United States15275 Posts
Well well, that's an automatic win.
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Lol that probe denied the spawning pool for so long, terrible play.
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The zerg looks pretty dead here.
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game over.
edit: that game made me sad, it was just so sad
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Get proxied, make drones.
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Making drones instead of lings against zealots LOOOL!
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Tyler 2-gate own in BW and SC2 
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wth? Moman playing like a bronzer.
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oh, zowie tourney is coming up is it?
rofl
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NASL, why you spoiling other tourneys for me (GCPL) . I'm here to watch TLO, not get the news on other sc2 tourneys :/
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just realised 4 EG guys are gonna be in the finals.... : )
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C'mon TT1, we need you to win so White Ra stays in the league!
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Yeah what. That Zowie tournament finished before the GCPL finals, but according to NASL, one has happened while the other hasn't yet?
There's some strange anachronism going on here 
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On November 14 2011 12:30 hayata2.0 wrote:Yeah what. That Zowie tournament finished before the GCPL finals, but according to NASL, one has happened while the other hasn't yet? There's some strange anachronism going on here
GCPL was in replays though, I assume Xeris knew the results.
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On November 14 2011 12:04 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:02 kiy0 wrote:
Infestors? Np, I got ghosts.
Mutas? Np, I got ghosts.
Broodlords? Np, I got ghosts.
Ultras? Np, I got ghosts.
Yet again... Well Dimaga didn't have Mutas or Broodlords so that isn't exactly correct. TBH Puma did a huge amount of damage with that BFH/marine drop, and Terran being on 3base vs 3base for the longest time isn't typically good for Zerg, even if the Zerg was slightly ahead in upgrades. Even at 200/200 the first time around, Puma had 5k banked compared to 1k for Dimaga, Dimaga was always stretched thin for resources because he couldn't really get an operational 4th till really late (after Puma's 4th).
So what if Dimaga didn't use them? This is a general true in the game. It's not a balance whine. It is what it is. The fact of the matter is that ghosts counter every Zerg late game unit. There is no other unit in the game that does this.
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On November 14 2011 12:32 kiy0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:04 FairForever wrote:On November 14 2011 12:02 kiy0 wrote:
Infestors? Np, I got ghosts.
Mutas? Np, I got ghosts.
Broodlords? Np, I got ghosts.
Ultras? Np, I got ghosts.
Yet again... Well Dimaga didn't have Mutas or Broodlords so that isn't exactly correct. TBH Puma did a huge amount of damage with that BFH/marine drop, and Terran being on 3base vs 3base for the longest time isn't typically good for Zerg, even if the Zerg was slightly ahead in upgrades. Even at 200/200 the first time around, Puma had 5k banked compared to 1k for Dimaga, Dimaga was always stretched thin for resources because he couldn't really get an operational 4th till really late (after Puma's 4th). So what if Dimaga didn't use them? This is a general true in the game. It's not a balance whine. It is what it is. The fact of the matter is that ghosts counter every Zerg late game unit. There is no other unit in the game that does this.
Can you just stop? Puma is a better player than Dimaga. Dimaga did not even harass or do anything special that entire game.
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I apologize for doubting TLO.
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On November 14 2011 12:32 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:30 hayata2.0 wrote:Yeah what. That Zowie tournament finished before the GCPL finals, but according to NASL, one has happened while the other hasn't yet? There's some strange anachronism going on here GCPL was in replays though, I assume Xeris knew the results.
wow how old is the GCPL then... o.o NASL is pretty old right
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NASL is usually only a few days old.
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On November 14 2011 12:39 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 12:32 Dexington wrote:On November 14 2011 12:30 hayata2.0 wrote:Yeah what. That Zowie tournament finished before the GCPL finals, but according to NASL, one has happened while the other hasn't yet? There's some strange anachronism going on here GCPL was in replays though, I assume Xeris knew the results. wow how old is the GCPL then... o.o NASL is pretty old right
I assume the news segment isn't, or they wouldn't have known about BboongBbong/Nestea. They probably film those segments a couple days before airing so as to make them up to date.
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Why would you ever not have your sentries split up against a Terran, when not moving your army?
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TLO just wants to land at least one nuke...haha
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On November 14 2011 12:50 Giriath wrote:
Why would you ever not have your sentries split up against a Terran, when not moving your army?
We are watching non-Koreans remember?
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wtf at TLO not taking the free nexus and robo kill?
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Nice save Gretorp. Orb: "Caster bang" Gretorp: *cuts himself off, recovers* "I just channeled Incontrol there."
Hahahaha. So glad that casting era is over (er, I liked 'torp + Incontrol, but self-control on innuendo was lacking).
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United States15275 Posts
I think TT1 is going to roll over and die right here.
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he's lost like 30 probes to banshees so far
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Can't believe that worked for TLO.
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Heh, I love watching TLO series that he wins, and I hate watching TLO series that he loses.
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TLO should have been much much further ahead after killing 20 workers. The supply was actually even after all the probe harass. TLO needs to work on his macro while microing his banshees.
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On November 14 2011 13:07 ninjamyst wrote:
TLO should have been much much further ahead after killing 20 workers. The supply was actually even after all the probe harass. TLO needs to work on his macro while microing his banshees.
TLO's macro is bad, but TT1's army control is worse.
And wth was up with the lack of a forge? One cannon in each mineral line and he would have been able to take a fast third as a desperation move.
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No more White Ra
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On November 14 2011 13:18 Dexington wrote:No more White Ra
I like White-Ra, but his habit of forfeiting games (since Season 1 Week 1) is also pretty annoying, so while I will miss him a bit I hope we get another good foreigner who won't be giving up free wins a couple of times a season.
Or White-Ra could try and re-qualify.
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Yeah ! time for some HON ! the quality of games in the hon tournament reminds me of how awesome NASL sc2 season 1 was , this season blows for sc2 in my opinion (compared to season 1).
I know there almost no chance of this happening , but I hope H4NNI goes for a rampage XD
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