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On December 11 2011 13:14 Jormundr wrote:
Oh great purveyor of truth, martyr of justice, guide us to this charity that you are running!
But in all seriousness, you're a moron.
The charity chosen for this event is perfect for their target audience.
Holy shit, a charity that provides video games for SICK CHILDREN receives a lot of donations from a site founded around a VIDEO GAME!!?!?!?
I've met people like you in pretty much all the service work I've done, from habitat for humanity to soup kitchens to the red cross. Go get your fucking sense of self righteousness somewhere else (In a third world country maybe?)
First of all, it's not about me, or you, or about what you think of my IQ. And I have no clue how to run an organization like that, that's why I recommend giving to an organization that is established and renowned for their ability to do what I cannot.
I don't remember saying giving sick kids video games to enjoy is a bad thing....but....
In StarCraft, don't you talk about trades being cost effective, units giving the most rewards for your minerals spent, and efficient spending resources? Then you understand better than most that the $200 per game system, and that's not even touching accessories and games, could be more wisely given with grace to someone who is in much more desperate need of it?
And who should be the target audience for aid to Africa if not our generous, heart-warming, gives-above-and-beyond SC2 community? If we as gamers relate to giving games to sick kids, why can't we as PEOPLE who enjoy the luxury of 3 meals a day and a 24/7 ER relate to giving food and medicine to people who have absolutely nothing and no hope? At least the sick kids in hospital have hope in modern medicine.
What is self-righteous about recognizing priorities? And if one lived in a third world country and made beans for wages then how would one be able to generously give of extravagant first world income?
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Don't feed the trolls. $16,000. Incredible!
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On December 11 2011 13:41 enfuegosanto wrote:
First of all, it's not about me, or you, or about what you think of my IQ. And I have no clue how to run an organization like that, that's why I recommend giving to an organization that is established and renowned for their ability to do what I cannot.
I don't remember saying giving sick kids video games to enjoy is a bad thing....but....
In StarCraft, don't you talk about trades being cost effective, units giving the most rewards for your minerals spent, and efficient spending resources? Then you understand better than most that the $200 per game system, and that's not even touching accessories and games, could be more wisely given with grace to someone who is in much more desperate need of it?
And who should be the target audience for aid to Africa if not our generous, heart-warming, gives-above-and-beyond SC2 community? If we as gamers relate to giving games to sick kids, why can't we as PEOPLE who enjoy the luxury of 3 meals a day and a 24/7 ER relate to giving food and medicine to people who have absolutely nothing and no hope? At least the sick kids in hospital have hope in modern medicine.
What is self-righteous about recognizing priorities? And if one lived in a third world country and made beans for wages then how would one be able to generously give of extravagant first world income?
It's this kind of attitude that left New Orleans a trash heap with minimal aid, while Haiti received Billions of dollars from everyone around the world.
Just because something is not the most worthy cause, does not mean it is not a worthy cause.
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On December 11 2011 13:41 enfuegosanto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 13:14 Jormundr wrote:
Oh great purveyor of truth, martyr of justice, guide us to this charity that you are running!
But in all seriousness, you're a moron.
The charity chosen for this event is perfect for their target audience.
Holy shit, a charity that provides video games for SICK CHILDREN receives a lot of donations from a site founded around a VIDEO GAME!!?!?!?
I've met people like you in pretty much all the service work I've done, from habitat for humanity to soup kitchens to the red cross. Go get your fucking sense of self righteousness somewhere else (In a third world country maybe?) First of all, it's not about me, or you, or about what you think of my IQ. And I have no clue how to run an organization like that, that's why I recommend giving to an organization that is established and renowned for their ability to do what I cannot. I don't remember saying giving sick kids video games to enjoy is a bad thing....but.... In StarCraft, don't you talk about trades being cost effective, units giving the most rewards for your minerals spent, and efficient spending resources? Then you understand better than most that the $200 per game system, and that's not even touching accessories and games, could be more wisely given with grace to someone who is in much more desperate need of it? And who should be the target audience for aid to Africa if not our generous, heart-warming, gives-above-and-beyond SC2 community? If we as gamers relate to giving games to sick kids, why can't we as PEOPLE who enjoy the luxury of 3 meals a day and a 24/7 ER relate to giving food and medicine to people who have absolutely nothing and no hope? At least the sick kids in hospital have hope in modern medicine. What is self-righteous about recognizing priorities? And if one lived in a third world country and made beans for wages then how would one be able to generously give of extravagant first world income?
Oh wow, you are being a bit self-righteous. There will always be someone that is in more need than the next person. The money you spent on the device you used to post could feed dozens of children. Where are your priorities, man?
Seriously, let people donate to causes that matter to them. Don't tell people where they should spend their money, and they won't tell you where to spend yours.
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Let's just ignore the troll, even if their trolltastic bullshit is more eloquent and flowery than most. Awesome job to everyone involved with this, this was a great event to watch and listen to :D So awesome that the SCII community managed to pull together this much money for a great charity like Child's Play!
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Great show! Congrats to everyone! $16,000 for charity!
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Really well done.
Thank you so much for all the entertainment Geoff "Incontrol".
Thank you Rumble in the bronze.
Thank you Seguer.
GG WP everybody!
The final FFA was very entertaining : )
16000$ in ~6 hours is PRETTY GOOD! ^^
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Awesome event! So many people donating a ton of money by themselves, some even over $1000! That is really amazing. And $16000 overall is pretty amazing as well and is definitely something to be proud of. Although the StarCraft 2 community can seem to be a bit harsh sometimes, time and time again people do great things like this to give us a lot to be proud of. Thank you to everyone who helped put on this event as well as everyone who donated =).
By the way, those commercials were awesome lol. Whoever made those should work for MLG or something and make SC2 versions of commercials for events and their sponsors. I think that would be pretty cool! lol
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One of the best SC2 related events of the year. It was a pleasure to watch every second. Seguer and Incontrol had such an excellent relaxed chemistry they just worked well together from the start. From casting like it was a pro game to talking about how that one guy took 4 games to finally get his wall in correct, it was funny throughout. Thanks for hosting such an entertaining event for a great cause!
Whether you donated 0.50, 10, 100, or your the guy that donated the 1250. High five to all of you. Every little helps.
$16000 raised! $5000 was the goal!
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...it's a pretty good sign that you should avoid posting when in the course of making your post you actually manage to make the plight of children suffering from all manner of life-threatening ailments sound unimportant, regardless of the quality of life they experience.[/QUOTE]
What plight do the kids have from their life-threatening ailment that will be solved by gifting them the ability to play an expensive Xbox360 while in the hospital? Having to color coloring books and build Legos in a safe, well lit, clean room with a full belly, surrounded by supportive family and the miracles that modern medicine has to offer...how awful for them.
Wait, Child's Play doesn't do anything to actually help the child's ailment or recovery, it just soothes their tedious hospital stay? You say I'm trivializing their plight....but a video game system....that's an expensive cure for boredom and fear and gloom of a serious disease. I'm sure they get depressed, I'm sure they may even lose hope....but what will my dollars used to buy their hospital an Xbox actually provide for them to help them in their plight of worry and ?
Don't you want to see your hard earned dollars go to something more, someone who absolutely will not walk another day on this earth if it weren't for you? Sick, worried kids aren't unimportant, but wouldn't most logically agree that there are some things that are vitally more important?
User was temp banned for this post.
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Where will VODs be posted? :D
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On December 11 2011 14:08 CuteZergling wrote:
Where will VODs be posted? :D
We'll post them here.
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I think the fact enfuegosanto's account was made today and 100% of his posts are in this thread goes to show how much of your attention should go towards his opinions.
That being said, well done RITB and I'm glad to have been a donator.
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@enfuegosanto
Regardless of your opinions on the charity, it is really sad that you are trying to talk down the event, and undermine all the hard work of the people who run the charity, the people who held this event, the people who donated to the charity, and ESPECIALLY the kids with serious illnesses, many of them which are life-threating or possibly terminal. If you are so passionate about this topic, I would hope that you would realize that helping people who are less fortunate then ourselves, regardless of how less fortunate they are, is a good deed. If you really have a problem with the charity then I would suggest you go to them and express your concerns/opinions, because this is not the place to do it.
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On December 11 2011 14:06 enfuegosanto wrote:
Don't you want to see your hard earned dollars go to something more, someone who absolutely will not walk another day on this earth if it weren't for you? Sick, worried kids aren't unimportant, but wouldn't most logically agree that there are some things that are vitally more important?
the problems that third-world countries face are far too systematically ingrained and fundamentally broken to be addressed by the $10 I donated to child's play during the course of RotB. this does not mean that we should ignore them by any means, but it does mean that I'm going to be far less affected by the sort of shock guilt-tripping people like you try to lay on others who are ALREADY donating to make the world a better place, one small bit at a time, because the scope of the issues in those countries are gargantuan and better addressed by government aid from people who understand the subtle flows of power and corruption that exist within the governments of the countries in question.
your approach naively assumes we have to start from the top down in terms of who needs assistance, instead of helping those whose plights and the approaches taken to resolve them resonate with the donator. either form of donation is validly helpful, and I got to watch some starcraft in the meantime, so basically I wish you'd stop desperately trying to make people who do care about children feel bad - it's astoundingly counterproductive and immature.
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ignore the troll. he is just probably an iNcontrol hater and didn't even pay attention to the benefits video games have for sick children. yes those people in Africa need help more than the kids need video games, but that's why we have other organizations that target those places. by his logic, anything we have should be given to those people in Africa because they need food & money more than we do because we have so much more than they do. see where this is going? in fact, why don't you give up SC2 and sell your computer because they need the money so much more than we do? see where this is going if we follow your logic?
i have to admit, i do struggle sometimes with the amount of "stuff" we have. but i've learned that rather than feel pity for ourselves, we should appreciate and be glad to have what we have. always beating yourself for having too much stuff isn't going to help anyone.
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Thank you everyone who participated and donated!
Seguer
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On December 11 2011 13:51 WolfintheSheep wrote:
It's this kind of attitude that left New Orleans a trash heap with minimal aid, while Haiti received Billions of dollars from everyone around the world.
Just because something is not the most worthy cause, does not mean it is not a worthy cause.
New Orleans happened because the federal government put itself in charge of immediate aid through an agency, and it failed everyone's expectations, failed hardcore compared to what NGO's like Red Cross and grassroots giving were able to accomplish for poor N'awlins. A lesser acknowledged reason is that neccessary massive aid was also being sent east of New Orleans to the Bay St. Louis to Pascagoula region of Mississippi, where unlike the flooding in NO when the levees broke, houses and stores ceased to exist and 30+ feet walls of wave broke the coastal cities down to a post-nuclear-explosion existence.
It has no comparison with what happened in Haiti. Like Africa, people saw other people in absolutely horrid, desperate circumstances, circumstances no human being should ever have to live through, and decided to help. The reason it was huge was a media thing in Haiti, the coverage was nonstop and huge personalities drummed up support. This resulted in massive outpouring worldwide.
This is being done for Africa, but the problems still exist despite the many organizations contributing.
I agree. Child's Play is a worthy cause to give of your abundance.
But if you're in the market for worthy causes check out starving, hopeless, 'utter darkness' parts of the world. And then examine your priorities, and how best to give generously and make it count. That's all I'm saying.
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On December 11 2011 14:28 enfuegosanto wrote:
But if you're in the market for worthy causes check out starving, hopeless, 'utter darkness' parts of the world. And then examine your priorities, and how best to give generously and make it count. That's all I'm saying.
A once a year charity that targets a group that is ignored by other organizations for the rest of the year? Definitely a good priority.
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