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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
November 01 2011 23:42 GMT
#3241
On November 02 2011 08:36 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 06:50 imareaver3 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:47 Abrafred wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:45 JJH777 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:25 ffadicted wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Lost a ton of respect for MMA today.


lol what?

Also, sC vs. Nestea is what it is guys, tons of people have lost to all-ins when they didn't prepare and react properly, idk why everyone's making such a big deal out of it, sC clearly deserved the number 1 spot in the group and earned it.
Nice to see MC advancing as well!


In no way did SC clearly deserve the number 1 spot. 2port banshee is the definition of a coin-flip strategy.

Coinflip is risk. He risked it and he succeeded so he deserves the win. Risktaking is acceptable.


It shows a flaw in a BO1 format, though. You should not be able to be number 1 off of taking a crazy risk like that and getting lucky once against a far superior player.


A far superior player? LOL you guys needa get off nestea's dick seriously. He barely beat sc back in gsl may. Quit riding the artosis nestea hype, its annoying as shit. Sc may not have played a macro game this time, but that doesn't mean he's undeserving.

Sc has top tier tvz, up with the ranks of mvp, mma, mkp. I'm honestly getting annoyed as hell listening to artosis talk about nestea as if he's a god.


That was months ago. Nestea has far far better ZvT than he did then while SC if anything should be worse due to not being able to play for several months. What evidence is there for him having top tier tvz?
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
November 01 2011 23:50 GMT
#3242
On November 02 2011 08:42 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 08:36 rysecake wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:50 imareaver3 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:47 Abrafred wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:45 JJH777 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:25 ffadicted wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Lost a ton of respect for MMA today.


lol what?

Also, sC vs. Nestea is what it is guys, tons of people have lost to all-ins when they didn't prepare and react properly, idk why everyone's making such a big deal out of it, sC clearly deserved the number 1 spot in the group and earned it.
Nice to see MC advancing as well!


In no way did SC clearly deserve the number 1 spot. 2port banshee is the definition of a coin-flip strategy.

Coinflip is risk. He risked it and he succeeded so he deserves the win. Risktaking is acceptable.


It shows a flaw in a BO1 format, though. You should not be able to be number 1 off of taking a crazy risk like that and getting lucky once against a far superior player.


A far superior player? LOL you guys needa get off nestea's dick seriously. He barely beat sc back in gsl may. Quit riding the artosis nestea hype, its annoying as shit. Sc may not have played a macro game this time, but that doesn't mean he's undeserving.

Sc has top tier tvz, up with the ranks of mvp, mma, mkp. I'm honestly getting annoyed as hell listening to artosis talk about nestea as if he's a god.


That was months ago. Nestea has far far better ZvT than he did then while SC if anything should be worse due to not being able to play for several months. What evidence is there for him having top tier tvz?


What evidence is there for him being "far worse" due to his injury? Seems like he's still in pretty good shape to me. Makes it even more impressive.
The Notorious Winkles
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
November 01 2011 23:53 GMT
#3243
On November 02 2011 05:18 JJH777 wrote:
2port banshee is such complete BS


so butthurt.

BS is preparing against something then loose to a different thing and then complain about it. I bet Nestea first reaction was, "crap, I should have scouted earlier" and not how BS other players decision was.
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 01 2011 23:54 GMT
#3244
On November 02 2011 08:36 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 06:50 imareaver3 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:47 Abrafred wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:45 JJH777 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:25 ffadicted wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Lost a ton of respect for MMA today.


lol what?

Also, sC vs. Nestea is what it is guys, tons of people have lost to all-ins when they didn't prepare and react properly, idk why everyone's making such a big deal out of it, sC clearly deserved the number 1 spot in the group and earned it.
Nice to see MC advancing as well!


In no way did SC clearly deserve the number 1 spot. 2port banshee is the definition of a coin-flip strategy.

Coinflip is risk. He risked it and he succeeded so he deserves the win. Risktaking is acceptable.


It shows a flaw in a BO1 format, though. You should not be able to be number 1 off of taking a crazy risk like that and getting lucky once against a far superior player.


A far superior player? LOL you guys needa get off nestea's dick seriously. He barely beat sc back in gsl may. Quit riding the artosis nestea hype, its annoying as shit. Sc may not have played a macro game this time, but that doesn't mean he's undeserving.

Sc has top tier tvz, up with the ranks of mvp, mma, mkp. I'm honestly getting annoyed as hell listening to artosis talk about nestea as if he's a god.

I used to be a NesTea fan before Artosis started going on and on about him. Now I can't help but cheer against him. True story.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
November 01 2011 23:57 GMT
#3245
On November 02 2011 08:42 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 08:36 rysecake wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:50 imareaver3 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:47 Abrafred wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:45 JJH777 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:25 ffadicted wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Lost a ton of respect for MMA today.


lol what?

Also, sC vs. Nestea is what it is guys, tons of people have lost to all-ins when they didn't prepare and react properly, idk why everyone's making such a big deal out of it, sC clearly deserved the number 1 spot in the group and earned it.
Nice to see MC advancing as well!


In no way did SC clearly deserve the number 1 spot. 2port banshee is the definition of a coin-flip strategy.

Coinflip is risk. He risked it and he succeeded so he deserves the win. Risktaking is acceptable.


It shows a flaw in a BO1 format, though. You should not be able to be number 1 off of taking a crazy risk like that and getting lucky once against a far superior player.


A far superior player? LOL you guys needa get off nestea's dick seriously. He barely beat sc back in gsl may. Quit riding the artosis nestea hype, its annoying as shit. Sc may not have played a macro game this time, but that doesn't mean he's undeserving.

Sc has top tier tvz, up with the ranks of mvp, mma, mkp. I'm honestly getting annoyed as hell listening to artosis talk about nestea as if he's a god.


That was months ago. Nestea has far far better ZvT than he did then while SC if anything should be worse due to not being able to play for several months. What evidence is there for him having top tier tvz?


I'm sorry, but I don't think Nestea has "far far better zvt" right now...and sc has always been a top tier player, especially tvz
Mylkyjo
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 00:07:00
November 02 2011 00:06 GMT
#3246
NesTea would probably have won against sC if his spores were placed differently. Tough break for him but sC took a gamble, hid it well and it paid.

I CANNOT wait for NesTea vs MMA! MMA will probably stomp him like he did a couple of seasons ago in the group stage, but it will be soo good.

Shame for Losira... Still, with his class, he should be able to fight his way back to Code S for next season.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2011 00:07 GMT
#3247
Nice to see GSL is still doing so good. First day Code S, and so many people tuned in. LR with 160 pages isn't bad at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
November 02 2011 00:18 GMT
#3248
2 port banshee Nestea barely misses scouting. EZ coinflip BS. Losira goes baneling bust that was barely not scouted, BRILLIANT PLAY.
Rorix
Profile Joined December 2010
357 Posts
November 02 2011 00:24 GMT
#3249
good games. waiting for Day 2.. **looks at the right side, checks matches**

Group H --- MVP Curious Alive MKP
Group D --- Ganzi Leenock Ensnare Polt

mmmmm...
roflstomper
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
November 02 2011 00:28 GMT
#3250
On November 02 2011 09:18 DMKraft wrote:
2 port banshee Nestea barely misses scouting. EZ coinflip BS. Losira goes baneling bust that was barely not scouted, BRILLIANT PLAY.


Right? When a zerg loses to a T cheese, wtf is this shit!

When a terran loses to a Z cheese, man how awesome of a player he is!
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
November 02 2011 00:31 GMT
#3251
On November 02 2011 09:28 Active.815 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 09:18 DMKraft wrote:
2 port banshee Nestea barely misses scouting. EZ coinflip BS. Losira goes baneling bust that was barely not scouted, BRILLIANT PLAY.


Right? When a zerg loses to a T cheese, wtf is this shit!

When a terran loses to a Z cheese, man how awesome of a player he is!


Get used to the double standards and hypocrisy on this site. Most TL'ers are zergs.
The Notorious Winkles
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 02 2011 00:45 GMT
#3252
On November 02 2011 08:54 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 08:36 rysecake wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:50 imareaver3 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:47 Abrafred wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:45 JJH777 wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:25 ffadicted wrote:
On November 02 2011 06:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Lost a ton of respect for MMA today.


lol what?

Also, sC vs. Nestea is what it is guys, tons of people have lost to all-ins when they didn't prepare and react properly, idk why everyone's making such a big deal out of it, sC clearly deserved the number 1 spot in the group and earned it.
Nice to see MC advancing as well!


In no way did SC clearly deserve the number 1 spot. 2port banshee is the definition of a coin-flip strategy.

Coinflip is risk. He risked it and he succeeded so he deserves the win. Risktaking is acceptable.


It shows a flaw in a BO1 format, though. You should not be able to be number 1 off of taking a crazy risk like that and getting lucky once against a far superior player.


A far superior player? LOL you guys needa get off nestea's dick seriously. He barely beat sc back in gsl may. Quit riding the artosis nestea hype, its annoying as shit. Sc may not have played a macro game this time, but that doesn't mean he's undeserving.

Sc has top tier tvz, up with the ranks of mvp, mma, mkp. I'm honestly getting annoyed as hell listening to artosis talk about nestea as if he's a god.

I used to be a NesTea fan before Artosis started going on and on about him. Now I can't help but cheer against him. True story.

You are what people commonly call a «hipster».

Nestea rocked and will always rock <3 Already 1 year since he won the GSL for the first time !
The legend of Darien lives on
DiamondTear
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
November 02 2011 00:46 GMT
#3253
I almost skipped charades but I'm glad I didn't.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 02 2011 00:46 GMT
#3254
Losira punished a guy who went for a rather greedy/risky eco build, and it was a specific response to asd's build, it wasn't blind.
Nestea tried to play as safe as possible, but still lost.It is of course still his fault, he should have sent an overlord into the base to scout sooner, but the conditions behind those cheeses were completely different. You can't just lump them together like that and say they are the same thing.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 02 2011 00:48 GMT
#3255
really can't say anyone can be disappointed with last night's results
With bosstea, MMA, SC and MC advancing
this season is starting to look pretty spectacular.
moo...for DRG
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 02 2011 00:51 GMT
#3256
On November 01 2011 22:21 sondrizzle wrote:
Quick question: I just subscribed to the GSL Google Calendar, but the time zones aren't updated correctly, or I'm just way wrong. It says that it starts 10.10 and ends 13.10, but today it went to 14.10. So, I was simply wondering if it is showing the times correct or if something is wrong. I'm GMT+1 (CET) if it helps.

The end time is just an estimate I think. It started at 10:10, there are 2 groups so when they're making the calendar they "predict" 3 hours.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
November 02 2011 00:53 GMT
#3257
The charades was so funny!
The spice must flow
ppdealer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada163 Posts
November 02 2011 00:53 GMT
#3258
On November 02 2011 07:59 Irre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 06:50 ZerO_0 wrote:
Whoo MC advancing finally might be making in a comeback in the GSL. I just hope all the other protoss can too.


I really don't understand this perspective at all... Why do people insist on having race balance when its player skill that matters. do we really want Inca and Hongun back in over the likes of DRG or Sc simply to fufill racial balance... I really dislike the anti T/Z sentiments in the community over the fact that the protoss players simply weren't performing well.

and MC isn't making a comeback..hes doing exactly what hes done for the past 6 months. If his opponents die to gateway timings he'll probably get further in the GSL...if not he'll lose. His play hasn't evolved as far as I see. Sorry


So why balance the game then? Why not keep the game the same as it was when it was first released as beta? Where Banshee cloak requires fusion core, and Psi Storm has 2.0 radius and need not to wait for energy? Why not go back even further, way back in the alpha, where lurker was actually in the game?

And what new strategies are Terrans using nowadays? Ghost? LOL! KA was removed a bare week after its "abuse" in the first GSTL, how long did it take for Terran players to actually realize they will actually never lose a TvP late game if they only use more Ghost? Same for TvZ...

Also, there are 19 terran players in Code S. And if Korean ladder's racial representation is any indication, at least 1/3 of those don't deserve their place in Code S. Are you saying that Inca and Hongun are among the bottom of those players and need to get dropped out of Code S?

Terran has never been the most inventive race. Rather, they have these flexible early game strategies that made it more difficult for them to set on an optimal strategy than other races. All these Terran dominance you're seeing is simply the results of them catching up.
ppdealer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 00:56:41
November 02 2011 00:55 GMT
#3259
On November 02 2011 09:31 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 09:28 Active.815 wrote:
On November 02 2011 09:18 DMKraft wrote:
2 port banshee Nestea barely misses scouting. EZ coinflip BS. Losira goes baneling bust that was barely not scouted, BRILLIANT PLAY.


Right? When a zerg loses to a T cheese, wtf is this shit!

When a terran loses to a Z cheese, man how awesome of a player he is!


Get used to the double standards and hypocrisy on this site. Most TL'ers are zergs.


..
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
November 02 2011 01:06 GMT
#3260
^lol.

To all the people wanting a decent non-balance discussion of the games: ignore all posts with "coinflip", "NesTea", "Artosis said", etc.

Anyhows, I'm looking forward to today's games, and pulling for Mvp and Curious in Group H (Keep that winstreak alive Curious!) With the other group, anybody but Ensnare please.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
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