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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5601
Are you guys actually retarded? You dont know which units counter ghosts? stfu then because you are noobs and stupid its not balance its you

User was temp banned for this post.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5602
Baller jacket
I've got moves like Jagger
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5603
He's wearing that F'n Terran shirt again.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5604
On October 23 2011 09:33 Darathor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:31 blade55555 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:30 Brainiac wrote:
Nestea got outclassed so hard. MVP next bonjwa!


Your right 3-3 then losing an epic game 7 = outclassed so hard lol.

What? It was game 5 dude, Nestea won one game.


WB final nesteas won 2-0
fist bo3 MVP won 2-0
going into the match it was 1-1 in the Bo3

making it 3-3 for the whole tourney
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5605
On October 23 2011 09:36 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:34 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:28 Krehlmar wrote:
I really think NesTea gave him that game, I'm never the one to say this but NesTea played really really REALLY bad... he never retook his bases and he played retarded strategies...

NesTea is my hero but that was just not him playing seriously. Going ultras versus mass ghost?...

What are you supposed to go vs mass ghost lol?


Mass lings/Banelings. Mass ghosts means less tanks.


Even if it doesnt he just had so much more bank because he had way more access to money that he could throw 100 banelings for 10 tanks and some marines and still be fine.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5606
Oh Sen, why you lose to MVP?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5607
On October 23 2011 09:34 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Was almost like Nestea didn't want to win. Why not mass spine at the hatches with all that bank?

Get drops sooner?

Run a shit ton of banes through his army?

Something

In SC2 you get broke on gas in the extreme late game.

Having a bank of 10k minerals doesn't really matter.

But that said, NesTea should have tried to end it sooner ... if he was extremely aggressive and kept denying third bases, I think he could have taken it. He had a lead at that point in the game.

MvP just played extremely smart and cost effective.
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5608
On October 23 2011 09:33 pak150 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:32 anrimayu wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:29 aebriol wrote:
Meh, what a stupid game.

I don't mind the winner, MvP is the best player, but really ... ghosts are fucking stupid in the extreme late game. Can't do anything against them.


Make infestors to force emp
make ultra/broodlords to force snipes
make hatchery/workers to force nukes

thats how you handle ghosts

How exactly is that "handling" ghosts? Sounds like you're making shit that ghosts counter.


Lol, made me laugh irl.
Parting
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5609
Did people just Boo nestea?
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5610
HAHAH NesTea gets David Kim!
Someone call down the Thunder?
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5611
where's the giant cheques?!
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:39:52
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5612
So fucking easy for Mvp to force Nestea to need twice his APM to keep up. Just set the rallies use shift to queue up 3 drops and 3 nukes at once, impossible to deal with every location on the map at once with melee units. Marines beat everything in the air, so you have to run around map architecture while Terran just flies over it.

Meanwhile, Zerg's options are easy to clean up and can't be sent to multiple locations at once. Nydus never even got planted, and he wasn't even able to drop all of his overlords.

Siege tanks with turrets and marines beat everything coming out of 1 choke except T3, yet he still has so much supply cap (due to only needing 50 fucking workers - hell he only needed like 20-30 at the end) that he can just mass Ghosts and Vikings and defeat every T3 combination at the same time. 2 Thors + 3/3 marines make any number of Mutas worthless.

Seriously, there is literally nothing that Nestea could have done. His APM was easily stretched to the brink, and we're talking about Nestea here, he looked horrible because there is literally no way to control your army in that many places and keep up with Terran "APM" of 3 shift clicks and a shift+D that he set up 2 minutes earlier.

The map sucks balls in a split map scenario of course, but literally EVERY MAP has a choke somewhere, and that's ALL Terran needs.

User was temp banned for this post.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5613
hahaha nestea getting boo'd
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5614
LOL He's wearing a Terran shirt
MKP||TSL
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5615

On October 23 2011 09:31 ski107 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:30 Dissonance23 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:29 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:28 Sc2Null wrote:
8 ghosts > 20+ broodlords


18 ghosts + 14 vikings*

I swear people who fucking post this bullshit aren't actually watching the same game as the rest of us are.



8 ghosts with max energy can kill 20 broodlords easily. They're a joke honestly.


And 30 lings can kill 8 ghosts easily. Go figure.
That honestly isn't the best answer as against cloak you just have overseers that get instantly sniped outside range and lings are 2-shot by Ghosts while lings cant attack them as they couldn't see them.

Blind-manual exploding banelings imo is the best solution, thoughts?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5616
Great game but Nestea's multitasking seemed to be lacking. I never actually seen a nuke hit something other than buildings before, don't think Nestea ever pulled drones.

His ZvT can really use some work in my opinion.
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5617
On October 23 2011 09:36 Senx wrote:
MvP did alot to win that game, Nestea just kind of sat there. So in that way it was deserved.

On the other hand, it was really strange to see nestea not use more nydus and drops when he had over 10k banked.

Nydius, drop, ultra, broodlords, infestors, masse bannelings. Nestea tried everything.

Both players played really well.
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:37:40
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5618
well look whos got a terran shirt
<(^-^<) (>^-^)>
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5619
If I were NesTea I'd punch David Kim. /notserious
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3821 Posts
October 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#5620
that is so BM
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