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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5561
MvP did alot to win that game, Nestea just kind of sat there. So in that way it was deserved.

On the other hand, it was really strange to see nestea not use more nydus and drops when he had over 10k banked.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5562
On October 23 2011 09:34 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:28 Krehlmar wrote:
I really think NesTea gave him that game, I'm never the one to say this but NesTea played really really REALLY bad... he never retook his bases and he played retarded strategies...

NesTea is my hero but that was just not him playing seriously. Going ultras versus mass ghost?...

What are you supposed to go vs mass ghost lol?


Mass lings/Banelings. Mass ghosts means less tanks.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5563
I don't want to detract from MVP, his play was beautiful, and the last game was great,Nestea just didn't handle it well enough to make MVP look as impressive as he could have
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5564
On October 23 2011 09:34 andycz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:33 Oboeman wrote:
Nestea could use some coaching on how to play late game.

really poor use of the nydus worm and drops.
really poor multitasking attempting to deal with MVP's drops.

When you are floating 12k minerals, you should be making nydus's constantly, and eventually one will finish.

You should be dropping zerglings in multiple locations constantly, non stop. LIKE MVP WAS DOING WITH MARINES

He could have made 10 overseers, attack-move the middle with 112 banelings, contaminate every barracks and remax with 10 ultras and 120 zerglings.

Maybe you should offer him your coaching, I'm sure he would love it.


I'm sure he would.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5565
wow hot asian girl with terran imba sign.
UltraVires
Profile Joined April 2010
United States241 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5566
On October 23 2011 09:35 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:34 StimMarine wrote:
Did most of the crowd leave already? lol

Yeh I feel MVP lost his chance in the limelight by going off stage so fast :S


Exactly. What the hell. He should have stormed out on stage while the crowd was still so hyped from that epic game (and still present! It looks like more than half the crowd left already!) Sadddd times.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5567
Ghost counter - roaches again and again and again. Cheap, require snipes to kill fast enough, take tank hits well, etc.

That or just a mixed army. Don't look for a 1-2 total unit counter
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5568
To be honest, Nestea looked lost, like he didn't know what to do in real late game TvZ. First that drop on the main which didn't do much at all. Then engaging into that army with no AA and clumped up infestors.

Very strange my Nestea in the end, but massive props to MVP. Must have been devastated when he lost the GSL final, and then going down to Nestea 2-0 in the Prelim final. Massive comeback, massive play when it counted, thoroughly deserved.

Epic finals series all up!
Bowzer
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada214 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5569
MVP's multitasking won him that game, drops everywhere, nukes, snipes all while macroing like a madmad, stop the tears please.

It was an epic game
A drinking community with a gaming problem.
Rk0
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands224 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5570
its nice to see nestea is giving away championships because he has too much money already =)
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5571
Mvp and Sen best friends forever.
Darathor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States327 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5572
On October 23 2011 09:34 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:33 Darathor wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:31 blade55555 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:30 Brainiac wrote:
Nestea got outclassed so hard. MVP next bonjwa!


Your right 3-3 then losing an epic game 7 = outclassed so hard lol.

What? It was game 5 dude, Nestea won one game.


Counting the 2-0 series before which including the finals would mean they were 3-3 then a game 7 in a since.

Not sure why you would count that, but okay then.
mesred
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany84 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5573
If I was Nestea after this game I'd slap Dustin Browder in the face for designing such a fricking OP race as Terran
Starcraft II is too important to be taken seriously
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5574
that girl is right :D Terran Imba ;D
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5575
Guys, you can't complain about that ending. MVP/Nestea were just doing it for the fans. That was such a showmatch. Nestea could have just rolled over MVP with his 13k minerals, but he didn't. He put on a show.

They don't care who won, they both got to show the fans a good game! :D
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5576
On October 23 2011 09:35 whirlpool wrote:
Darkforce handle late game Zerg better than Nestea, he won vs MVP in that situation in Geforce tourney


no darkforce handled that late game zerg better than Nestea...in that game. The rest of the tournament he played fantastic. His play was just strange at the end. He simply wasn't really doing anything for some reason.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Meatpuppet
Profile Joined January 2011
United States86 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5577
Nestea's bank and production capability was retarded. I simply can't believe he couldn't have got his nydus up somewhere, I don't think he even needed to hide it, just double nydus, north and south. Or just use some mutas/drops to claim a little corner in the base, 3/3 cracklings harassing north and south sure could have won it. Or with a bank that large why not just throw 30 brood lords at the terran army just to wipe out all the tanks, then macro up 200 zerglings, and throw all your drones in also. What an epic, but ridiculous game; I blame SC 2 game design.
I am the walrus
Ubes
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland111 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5578
On October 23 2011 09:35 Tef wrote:
I dont get the hype about the last game... it wasn't even close for Nestea, he lost when Terran got ghosts and a 200 army. It was painful to watch T_T

If it was painful it was because Nestea did nothing when he was way-ahead early on.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5579
On October 23 2011 09:34 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:28 Krehlmar wrote:
I really think NesTea gave him that game, I'm never the one to say this but NesTea played really really REALLY bad... he never retook his bases and he played retarded strategies...

NesTea is my hero but that was just not him playing seriously. Going ultras versus mass ghost?...

What are you supposed to go vs mass ghost lol?

At the very least not mass broodlord without detection (he build 5 overseers he didn't bring?) with all your money and not rebuild your bases.


I withold my stance: NesTea gave MVP that game. There is no logic behind his gameplay in the last match.
Despite anyones whine on ghosts; That was not the major problem here, NesTea didn't even do the fundamentals like rebuilding lost expansions or countering the drops. He even stopt dropping the ghosts in MVP's base when he still had 12+ banelings left in the overlords... he'd killed all of them but he just stopt for no apparent reason (not to defend his bases since they still all died during this so what the fuck was he doing?)
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
yna`
Profile Joined April 2011
5 Posts
October 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#5580
casting was weak


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