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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9201
On October 17 2011 04:37 Zane wrote:
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On October 17 2011 04:35 branflakes14 wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:34 diverzee wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:32 On_Slaught wrote:
I wonder if David Kim watches these games...

how does the man sleep at night?


I bet he's thinking "carriers have a counter - as every unit should".


But when one unit combats every Protoss air unit AND Colossi there's a bit of a problem.

Making corrupters is a pretty useful skill toi have.
+ Show Spoiler +
xD


VR do very well against corrupters it was just too little too late since Idra had insane level income.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9202
On October 17 2011 04:37 Sc2Null wrote:
people try to hype idra vs huk to much...its not that serious anymore lol


I'd call it one of the biggest rivalries in SC2 actually. Sure they're on the same team now, but come on... it's IdrA vs HuK
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9203
On October 17 2011 04:38 iLikeRain wrote:
IdrA pool first? WTF

tal darim is a good cannon map
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9204
On October 17 2011 04:34 Brainiac wrote:
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On October 17 2011 04:33 KristofferAG wrote:
IdrA is really doing great today, and in general lately. Playing according to his skill and not letting little things annoy him too much.


You didn't watch his series vs Boxer, did you?

You mean the series where he lost 3 games in a row after being up 3-0 and managed to not let that annoy him too much to come through in game 7?
My vanity is justified
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9205
On October 17 2011 04:36 diverzee wrote:
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On October 17 2011 04:34 Jakkerr wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:33 beute wrote:
but but but.... carriers use is just not figured out yet ok?!
they're good, protoss just needs to learn how to use them.


I agree with this.
Us protoss players need to figure out how to use this terrible unit that deals 0 dmg and gets 1 shotted by a bunch of corrupters.

Who is willing to test it a bit more?


Hongun could've vortexed sooner though. And I don't know what you guys were expecting out of only 3 carriers. It's not like 3 ultras or 3 battlecruisers alone should change a game around completely.

Not completely, but at least they already have some impact on the game. I mean, the biggest threat for a player going againts carriers is holding back his laughter.
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9206
On October 17 2011 04:38 Ramble wrote:
What is going on? Pool on like 12/13 and overlord on 14. I SMELL CHEESE.


Maybe just playing safe vs a cannon rush/pylon wall?
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9207
On October 17 2011 04:38 Drazerk wrote:
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On October 17 2011 04:37 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:37 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:36 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:36 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:35 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:34 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:33 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:33 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:32 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

7:45


Bunker falls and the attack has been cleaned up


8:40


MC attacking the base of MKP now

All the scvs have been pulled but they are all going down


9:30


Gold base has been saturaed for MKP now while holding the attack barely


10:30


Two more barracks finish for marine king as he managed to hold off the attack


11:30

Robo on the way for MC

Two barracks and an engineering bay for MKP

Gold base doing a lot of good at the moment


12:30

Two forges for MC

Stim and bio +1 for MKP as he goes to take his third


13:30


Drop from MKP doing a lot of damage and allowing him to gain map control


14:30


Blink has finished for MC as the armies engage at the natural of MC


15:30

MC holding off the attack of MKP for now


16:00

MC scouts the gold base of MKP just as it mines out


16:40


Charge finished for MC
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9208
On October 17 2011 04:37 Zeon0 wrote:
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On October 17 2011 04:36 windsupernova wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:34 Zeon0 wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:33 Coolwhip wrote:
Does idra think it's 'cool' to look uninterested and angry after wins?

no, he thinks its a shame that a motherhip rushing carrier building opponent can remain in the game for such a long time


Yeah man, That 3 base Mothership rush. So cheesy by Hongun

the mothership is supposed to be a late game unit, not mid game! :D


idk about you but when toss is on 3 base and zerg has 5 when moma ship pops i would consider it a late game situation
No Artosis, you are robin
Shollef
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden40 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9209
IdrAs play looks impressive. As solid as IEM.
Well i say.. No guts no glory!
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9210
On October 17 2011 04:37 Coolwhip wrote:
Why does MLG still make the same mistake each time. Showing the same game on 2 streams, while missing a game like MC MKP.


they're not missing MC vs MKP lol wtf

I'm watching it right now
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9211
On October 17 2011 04:38 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:37 Zane wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:35 branflakes14 wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:34 diverzee wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:32 On_Slaught wrote:
I wonder if David Kim watches these games...

how does the man sleep at night?


I bet he's thinking "carriers have a counter - as every unit should".


But when one unit combats every Protoss air unit AND Colossi there's a bit of a problem.

Making corrupters is a pretty useful skill toi have.
+ Show Spoiler +
xD


VR do very well against corrupters it was just too little too late since Idra had insane level income.

vr almost kills two corrupters by itself without corruption
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9212
On October 17 2011 04:37 minhbq299 wrote:
zerg cry corruptors are bad ) they raped every protoss air unit + colossus.


If he didn't commit so hard on Air and instead went Blink stalkers or something.

What's Idra going to do? Turn 20 Corruptors into Broodlords? Corrupt every stalker?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9213
On October 17 2011 04:37 Coolwhip wrote:
Why does MLG still make the same mistake each time. Showing the same game on 2 streams, while missing a game like MC MKP.


MC vs MKP is on stream.

Its your fault you don't want to pay for membership. Complaining about a free service...
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 19:39:21
October 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#9214
nvm
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#9215
This observer @ the MKP vs MC game is making me cringe, it's ridiculous how much he misses .
It appears I have been chosen.
_Sejanus_
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada94 Posts
October 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#9216
On October 17 2011 04:38 iLikeRain wrote:
IdrA pool first? WTF


Well we saw carriers last game.. so what do you expect?
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
October 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#9217
On October 17 2011 04:38 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:37 Coolwhip wrote:
Why does MLG still make the same mistake each time. Showing the same game on 2 streams, while missing a game like MC MKP.


they're not missing MC vs MKP lol wtf

I'm watching it right now

is that on the white/black stream?
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 19:39:28
October 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#9218
On October 17 2011 04:38 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:34 Mordiford wrote:
Protoss air is actually atrocious, holy fuck...


voids are amazing! its just carriers suck out loud. It is sad seeing how great they were in BW but different games are different and the only point in a fleet beacon now is the moma ship

Voids are not amazing.They have their place in early game pvz and in a cheese in pvt but apart from that they are just meh..
Cackle™
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#9219
On October 17 2011 04:38 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:38 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:37 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:37 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:36 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:36 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:35 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:34 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:33 Drazerk wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:33 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

8:40


MC attacking the base of MKP now

All the scvs have been pulled but they are all going down


9:30


Gold base has been saturaed for MKP now while holding the attack barely


10:30


Two more barracks finish for marine king as he managed to hold off the attack


11:30

Robo on the way for MC

Two barracks and an engineering bay for MKP

Gold base doing a lot of good at the moment


12:30

Two forges for MC

Stim and bio +1 for MKP as he goes to take his third


13:30


Drop from MKP doing a lot of damage and allowing him to gain map control


14:30


Blink has finished for MC as the armies engage at the natural of MC


15:30

MC holding off the attack of MKP for now


16:00

MC scouts the gold base of MKP just as it mines out


16:40


Charge finished for MC


17:10

Concussive shells only just starting for MKP

Armies moving in the middle of the map
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
October 16 2011 19:39 GMT
#9220
On October 17 2011 04:37 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:35 Seiniyta wrote:
Idra played well, but it was really Hong-un who really made a horrible choice. Collosus, Carriers, Voidray, I thnk Corrupters pretty much counter those no problem.

I do think the Carrier needs to be looked at though, it should be made a bit more viable, either decrease the cost or reduce the build time. They're scary in large numbers, but how often are you able to mass Carriers uncontested?

yeah I think carriers are only good with storm.
Hongun should've just ditched the void rays and teched to storm, storm would've been fantastic vs hydras and clumped corrupters.


voidrays beat corrupters cost for cost, and not by any small margin. carriers/colossus/mothership of course are countered by it though.
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