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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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LordOfTheLings
Germany10 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
Nada is quite bad against P tho. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On October 14 2011 23:59 00Visor wrote: What would you suggest as late game besides ghosts? Getting a faster fourth so he can constantly produce ghosts. Not cloaking them so they can actually get energy for EMP. Not forgetting his own vikings in the middle of the map. The transition came at a very bad time. | ||
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OnlineHero
Denmark647 Posts
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
On October 14 2011 23:59 darkest44 wrote: I swear Mana is floating 2-3k minerals even after full warpins and not max supply in like every game I see. If his macro was a bit better he'd be even better. Could be bad macro (i didn't look) but you don't want to be max supply vs a terran cause drops will destroy you. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:01 Mayd wrote: I think foreigner protosses are just better than the korean ones. I don't agree with that given Nani's unquestionably one of the best non-korean toss and yet really struggles over there. I do think Mana has PvT that's right up there though, especially when it comes to lategame. | ||
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
On October 14 2011 23:59 mTw|NarutO wrote: You really can't Protoss have 5 Colossus untouched and let them get to high templars. You will never win that fight. Even if you win, you lost because he will reinforce with lots of gateway units and your left over force (+vikings) will be pretty much dead vs high gateway count. Don't know what TOP was thinking :o Yeah, but here, if Top had enough ernergy on his ghosts he would have won this easily. He wasted his ghosts, lost some vikings for free. That's not the way you want to engage :-/ | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:00 BuddhaMonk wrote: Very questionable ghost control there by TOP, wasting energy on cloak, walking through storms and colossus fire, barely getting any EMP's off, not reinforcing with more ghosts for the second battle. It's really awesome how those Ghosts were able to cloak, walk through 3 Storms, and still snipe Templar. Other than that, MaNa outplayed TOP in every single category at the end there. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
30-24 to Toss according to TLPD TOP is 2-1 vs Toss Mana is 17-3 vs Terran Holy crap Mana has played a lot of games | ||
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:00 Belha wrote: If u do that blindly, the T get absurd amount of Viking then time to type gg for the P player. The best option is to change compositions during game acording to the number of vikings the T player have. I kinda agree, but even changing comp from colossi > chargelot/archon when terran has a lot of vikings still gets destroyed by ghosts which all terran should use by now. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:01 mTw|NarutO wrote: I think MaNa has the best PvT in the world actually. Meto he is the only protoss I seen beating Puma. He just slay every terran he meets if he could just get a better PvP he would be so great | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:00 BuddhaMonk wrote: Very questionable ghost control there by TOP, wasting energy on cloak, walking through storms and colossus fire, barely getting any EMP's off, not reinforcing with more ghosts for the second battle. I think it was more good control by Mana. He was always out of range of EMPs, Stormed the Ghosts by anticipating their route. Always had HTs in position. Tops control was standard | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:01 CosmicSpiral wrote: Getting a faster fourth so he can constantly produce ghosts. Not cloaking them so they can actually get energy for EMP. Not forgetting his own vikings in the middle of the map. The transition came at a very bad time. I don't think his blunders were part of his plan, tho. | ||
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ChaosTerran
Austria844 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:01 mTw|NarutO wrote: I think MaNa has the best PvT in the world actually. i second this statement. mana could easily play code s and hes definitely got better pvt than any korean protoss player | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:02 Doko wrote: Could be bad macro (i didn't look) but you don't want to be max supply vs a terran cause drops will destroy you. Its not bad macro. Its high income and the fact that he's maxed out really fast and doesn't just attack. The longer a Protoss is maxed out and the more money he banks, the better for him. Terran can't reinforce a 200/200 army as fast as Protoss with 30 gateways can. Its very clever by MaNa to bank / float minerals when he's maxed. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 14 2011 23:59 darkest44 wrote: I swear Mana is floating 2-3k minerals even after full warpins and not max supply in like every game I see. If his macro was a bit better he'd be even better. Against Terran players you don't want to max out ASAP because you want to be able to warp-in in case of drops. | ||
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cLemenZa
England66 Posts
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:02 Doko wrote: Could be bad macro (i didn't look) but you don't want to be max supply vs a terran cause drops will destroy you. Yea I know, I'm talking at 150ish supply though. Rotter even mentioned he could spend his money better. I've seen him lose a lot of games with 2-3k still in the bank. He's still very good though. | ||
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