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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 14 2011 14:59 GMT
#261
On October 14 2011 23:54 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 23:50 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:43 Redox wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:42 stfouri wrote:
tbh this just shows how hard it is to go trough open bracket in MLG. These guys who allways drop in the open bracket can take games off even from the koreans.

Starcraft really needs league that can give better opportunities to these new faces. Stop giving invites to the same guys over and over again!

Thats the good thing about IEM. No invites, completely open (at least for non-Koreans).

Or TSL. Seriously, look at the TSL line-up, and see how a ton of the 'unknown' people who qualified are now some of the biggest stars in the scene. Qualification-only tournaments are always amazing, and no tournament does a better job of picking out the next up-and-coming stars than the TSL does.

TSL was still tainted with invites... Haypro, Tyler to mention few


Tyler earned his right to be in TSL3 by winning the previous TSL. No top tournament is 100% qualification.
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
October 14 2011 14:59 GMT
#262
On October 14 2011 23:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
MaNa probably has the best PvT outside Korea

i would say in korea too
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 14 2011 14:59 GMT
#263
On October 14 2011 23:58 Logros wrote:
Well Mana took out Puma before, his PvT is beastly.

He also took out Nada
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
October 14 2011 14:59 GMT
#264
On October 14 2011 23:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
MaNa probably has the best PvT outside Korea


Which Korean has a better PvT?
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 15:00:04
October 14 2011 14:59 GMT
#265
I swear Mana is floating 2-3k minerals even after full warpins and not max supply in like every game I see. If his macro was a bit better he'd be even better.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#266
Mana has the best foreigner PvT imo.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#267
I gotta say, my favourite part of Mana's play was his storms on the cloaked ghosts.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#268
Anyone know if the internet at the venue is lagging or something?
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#269
On October 14 2011 23:59 HappyChris wrote:
MaNa best protoss player in EU and you think some random code S player terran got a chance vs the best PvT in EU


If you perhaps mean the finalist to last GSL, then yes TOP definitely has a chance to beat best PvT in EU.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#270
On October 14 2011 23:59 HappyChris wrote:
MaNa best protoss player in EU and you think some random code S player terran got a chance vs the best PvT in EU


No Code S player is ever random, especially not a Korean Terran.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#271
On October 14 2011 23:58 oogieogie wrote:
protoss should really stay with this colossi play insted of chargelot archon vs terran.

If u do that blindly, the T get absurd amount of Viking then time to type gg for the P player. The best option is to change compositions during game acording to the number of vikings the T player have.
Chicken gank op
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#272
Very questionable ghost control there by TOP, wasting energy on cloak, walking through storms and colossus fire, barely getting any EMP's off, not reinforcing with more ghosts for the second battle.
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#273
On October 14 2011 23:59 darkest44 wrote:
I swear Mana is floating 2-3k minerals even after full warpins and not max supply in like every game I see. If his macro was a bit better he'd be even better.

you dont want to be maxed incase of drops to be able to warp in units in base
BjC
Profile Joined February 2011
England181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 15:00:59
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#274
Mana is a beast! GoGo those EuroToss! Elfi and Mana Representing vs the Koreans
Taug
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
October 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#275
Top woulda won that easily, why he didnt let those ghosts heal no one knows.
The Golden Rule
Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
October 14 2011 15:01 GMT
#276
I think foreigner protosses are just better than the korean ones.
유리 | 티파니 | 리지
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 14 2011 15:01 GMT
#277
Axlav 2-0 Edge. Added some stuff about the game!!!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2011 15:01 GMT
#278
On October 14 2011 23:59 Malaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 23:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
MaNa probably has the best PvT outside Korea


Which Korean has a better PvT?

Yeah, I was thinking about that as I wrote that, couldn't think of anyone but I wasn't completly sure so
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 15:01:30
October 14 2011 15:01 GMT
#279
On October 14 2011 23:59 Malaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 23:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
MaNa probably has the best PvT outside Korea


Which Korean has a better PvT?

Killer, Puzzle, Sage, Creator
But Mana could be up there
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
October 14 2011 15:01 GMT
#280
Mana definitely has the best PvT outside Korea. I think he has Top 5 PvT in the world to be honest.
Go go Alliance.
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