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IM_Megan
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands744 Posts
October 14 2011 15:03 GMT
#301
Sorry, not going to LR this, going to save my fingers for some own ladder / gsl finals
Please follow me on http://www.justin.tv/meganeu Thanks alot! <3
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#302
On October 14 2011 23:59 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 23:54 Frankon wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:50 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:43 Redox wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:42 stfouri wrote:
tbh this just shows how hard it is to go trough open bracket in MLG. These guys who allways drop in the open bracket can take games off even from the koreans.

Starcraft really needs league that can give better opportunities to these new faces. Stop giving invites to the same guys over and over again!

Thats the good thing about IEM. No invites, completely open (at least for non-Koreans).

Or TSL. Seriously, look at the TSL line-up, and see how a ton of the 'unknown' people who qualified are now some of the biggest stars in the scene. Qualification-only tournaments are always amazing, and no tournament does a better job of picking out the next up-and-coming stars than the TSL does.

TSL was still tainted with invites... Haypro, Tyler to mention few


Tyler earned his right to be in TSL3 by winning the previous TSL. No top tournament is 100% qualification.


I generally prefer it if invites are extremely limited though, for say a pool of 32, no more than 8 invites. Quite simply, I prefer something more along the lines of IPL3 over something idiotic like NASL2 where it's entirely based on invites and you can think of dozens of players who could replace half the player pool. There's simply too many players capable of comparing with one another to have a pure-invite or super heavy invite based tournament, this is also why MLG's format is iffy because there isn't that huge of a differentiation between most players to give some the advantage of pools.

Anyway, really enjoying this event. Go go Mana.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#303
On October 15 2011 00:03 clusen wrote:
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On October 15 2011 00:01 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:59 00Visor wrote:
On October 14 2011 23:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
TOP's TvP looks pretty bad. Doesn't seem like he has a late-game plan at all.

What would you suggest as late game besides ghosts?


Getting a faster fourth so he can constantly produce ghosts. Not cloaking them so they can actually get energy for EMP. Not forgetting his own vikings in the middle of the map. The transition came at a very bad time.

I don't think his blunders were part of his plan, tho.


From my point of view he didn't seem to have a plan and all his decision-making was purely reactionary. That's why the execution was overall terrible.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Taug
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
October 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#304
LOL mana playin in code S dont make me laugh
The Golden Rule
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
October 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#305
On October 15 2011 00:03 IM_Megan wrote:
Sorry, not going to LR this, going to save my fingers for some own ladder / gsl finals


You gonna cover MLG/Blizzcon as well?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 15:05:28
October 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#306
TOP going for that hellion drop opener, wonder whether he'll go into 1/1/1 or whether he'll expo after.

ed: 2nd gas and 2nd rax on the way so he'll 1/1/1 to follow up
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2011 15:04 GMT
#307
Fast hellion drop without blueflame?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#308
I actually think Korean Protoss are 'worse' because they refuse to use Colossi. Obviously colossi are countered by vikings and you are a bit more vulnerable against drops, but they seem to completely ignore that colossi force a lot of vikings which is on the same hand NOT enough medivacs / not equally fast upgrades etc pp...

All Korean Terrans I saw have troubles with that colossus style from MaNa, Socke etc...
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#309
On October 15 2011 00:03 IM_Megan wrote:
Sorry, not going to LR this, going to save my fingers for some own ladder / gsl finals


Well you must LR MLG Orlando. All matches.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
IM_Megan
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands744 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#310
On October 15 2011 00:04 Hassybaby wrote:
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On October 15 2011 00:03 IM_Megan wrote:
Sorry, not going to LR this, going to save my fingers for some own ladder / gsl finals


You gonna cover MLG/Blizzcon as well?


I just annouched at the MLG thread that the time of MLG is so f*cked *p that I am unable to live report it.

I have to work tonight at 22:00 CEST time and MLG starts at 23:30.. that is kinda a bummer.
Please follow me on http://www.justin.tv/meganeu Thanks alot! <3
Dabbijo
Profile Joined October 2011
Iceland16 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#311
SC spectator here. I saw sixfour's post where he mentioned moneylines. Is it possible to bet on SC2 games online?
I watch too much StarCraft to ever be good at it.
LordOfTheLings
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany10 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#312
On October 15 2011 00:03 doko100 wrote:
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On October 15 2011 00:01 mTw|NarutO wrote:
I think MaNa has the best PvT in the world actually.


i second this statement. mana could easily play code s and hes definitely got better pvt than any korean protoss player


Well then Mana would have a real chance on becoming the champion, because his PvZ got a lot better as well and there arent any Protoss in Code S anyways
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#313
On October 15 2011 00:02 windsupernova wrote:
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On October 15 2011 00:00 BuddhaMonk wrote:
Very questionable ghost control there by TOP, wasting energy on cloak, walking through storms and colossus fire, barely getting any EMP's off, not reinforcing with more ghosts for the second battle.


I think it was more good control by Mana. He was always out of range of EMPs, Stormed the Ghosts by anticipating their route. Always had HTs in position. Tops control was standard


^

Mana is the best European in terms of positioning. He almost never gets in a bad engagement.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#314
...and then the 1/1/1 transition... geez
TidusX.Yuna
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States239 Posts
October 14 2011 15:06 GMT
#315
It's going to be so hard for Mana to hold
Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality!
IM_Megan
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands744 Posts
October 14 2011 15:06 GMT
#316
On October 15 2011 00:05 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:03 IM_Megan wrote:
Sorry, not going to LR this, going to save my fingers for some own ladder / gsl finals


Well you must LR MLG Orlando. All matches.


Alot of people asked me tbh But the times are just =( to cry about

Kinda sad because I actually was hoping I was able to LR that and even watch it
Please follow me on http://www.justin.tv/meganeu Thanks alot! <3
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2011 15:06 GMT
#317
This build from Top is extremely lame imo :/
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 14 2011 15:06 GMT
#318
Took too much damage there. Shouldn't be able to hold this push coming.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
October 14 2011 15:06 GMT
#319
GG. Once the harass kill +10 workers, the push is unstopable.
Chicken gank op
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 14 2011 15:07 GMT
#320
What a surprise. Korean Terran loses first game -> Marine-tank-banshee all-in to even the score.
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