EPT[GSL] Oct Code S RO8 Day 1 - Page 162
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On October 12 2011 02:42 Tachion wrote: Why were the ganzi/supernova games so bad? Pretty much all were down-voted. They were somewhat sloppy, but I had a decent time watching them. Very close and swingy series. Worth watching if you have some time to kill | ||
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Tsuro
58 Posts
On October 12 2011 02:42 Tachion wrote: Why were the ganzi/supernova games so bad? Pretty much all were down-voted. They were ok, but no one really likes TvT and they didn't show anything new. Plus people were spoiled after Nestea vs MVP. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
game 1: I feel Nestea kinda fell apart with all the Hellion harass, like I feel he should have used way more static defense. MVP seems to be liking Mech more and more in both TvZ and TvT, hopefully he starts using Mech in TvP too. Game 2: On this game I feel like Nestea(beyond some cases but the damage was not that bad) really stepped it up and defended the Hellions well. He abused Zerg mobility to delay MVPs push more and more and had some Clutch Broodlord timming that won him the game.I still feel Zerg delay Hive a little too much, dunno I feel that Hive tech came into play much earlier in BW. But in this game it came in time Game 3:Nestea defended the mass Hellion opening.. Ok, I feel that Z players are not using simcity too much atm, but Nestea was definitively behind. Some cool stuff that nestea did really let him climb up(the drop play had MVP turtling too much on 2 bases and its nice to see Zergs remembering that Bling drops are still awesome against workers). patience and an awesome engagement let nestea be ahead and some smart muta harass gave him the win.Pretty cool game I think this and game 2 were the best ones of the series. Game 4: Well, I don´t know what nestea was thinking this game. He defended Hellions beautifully but it seemed like he was gearing up for a 2 base timming and I feel he didn´t take his 3rd as early as he could have. Which delayed hive, which let MVP be super prepared for the Blords. it didn´t help that nestea lost a lot of his infestors. I feel nestea could have won that but he seemed kinda indecisive on that game. Game 5: Well, to be honest i feel what won MVP the game was his super early 3rd and Nestea going for a 2 base drop build, which delayed his 3rd. Still i feel that the early 3rd is what made the game for MVP, he had a larger than normal tank count and I feel Nestea was way behind by the time the push came. Still nestea played pretty well, but i feel once that many tanks are out you seriously need Hive tech which he didn´t. Still a pretty GG maybe a little one sided.Nestea defended pretty well though Have not watched the Ganzi v Supernova games. I hope they were good. | ||
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mitthrawn
Germany443 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
Game 5: Well, to be honest i feel what won MVP the game was his super early 3rd and Nestea going for a 2 base drop build, which delayed his 3rd. Still i feel that the early 3rd is what made the game for MVP, he had a larger than normal tank count and I feel Nestea was way behind by the time the push came. Still nestea played pretty well, but i feel once that many tanks are out you seriously need Hive tech which he didn´t. Still a pretty GG maybe a little one sided.Nestea defended pretty well though The really crazy thing about that game is that despite MVP having the third the whole time, Nestea really could have won. His econ was good enough about 2/3 of the way through the game to bring it back, he just didn't deal with that push properly. When he tried to cut off reinforcements, they had already arrived, and he also didn't attack the army before the reinforcements came. There were some parts where it was 20-25 mutas against 15 marines and he was too scared to engage. Still a pretty sick game though, I can't believe how much MVP mined and how little Nestea's drops did for the cost, but he still managed to make it look real close. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 12 2011 03:17 ShrieK wrote: The really crazy thing about that game is that despite MVP having the third the whole time, Nestea really could have won. His econ was good enough about 2/3 of the way through the game to bring it back, he just didn't deal with that push properly. When he tried to cut off reinforcements, they had already arrived, and he also didn't attack the army before the reinforcements came. There were some parts where it was 20-25 mutas against 15 marines and he was too scared to engage. Still a pretty sick game though, I can't believe how much MVP mined and how little Nestea's drops did for the cost, but he still managed to make it look real close. Yeah i definitively agree that nestea could have won that game despite all that went badly for him. And yeah I definitively agree that he could have crushed the 1st half of the army but the reinforcements managed to arrive in time(and really that showed how crazy MVPs macro was too). Definitively a finals worthy game, which is a shame it happened in a RO8 but oh well | ||
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
In game 4 He could definitely have taken out MVP after denying the hellions and being almost maxed out on lings roaches and infestors. In game 5 NesTea, despite not being aware of that ninja 3rd for like 10 minutes still held his own but then again after the failed 1st attempt at breaking the doom push he morphed 40 lings and I was screaming at my computer "go for it !!!!). Instead he waited for MVP to reinforce and make his push absolutely unbreakable without tier 3 tech. If he could put a little bit of "julyzergness" in his play along with his great mechanics and godly game sense he would be the absolute best in the world. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On October 12 2011 00:27 ch33psh33p wrote: Seriously? Nestea just took 2 games off the best TvZ on the planet, and instead of giving MVP credit for being downright amazing, you take the asshole route and say Nestea's ZvT is bad. Nobody stands a chance against MVP as Z right now, its a testament to Nestea's skill he took two games as is. Nestea's worst match-up against MVP's best and it was extremely close  | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'm still sad NesTea is out though ;( | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On October 12 2011 03:50 KimJongChill wrote: Nestea's worst match-up against MVP's best and it was extremely close You're only as good as your worst match-up tho. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 12 2011 03:50 KimJongChill wrote: Nestea's worst match-up against MVP's best and it was extremely close The maps actually weren't even zerg favored lol. Belshir which is 14-17 favoring zerg so slightly zerg favored (even though NO map is going to be 50/50) Metalopolis is 30-24 favoring Terran. Day break 12-18 favoring zerg Taldarim 42-26 favoring terran Dual sight 30-27 favoring terran. so overall the maps were pretty balanced 3 were favoring terran 2 were favoring zerg (I wouldn't even say any really favored either because the stats are very close except for taldarim most are within 5-6 wins from each other). Just find it funny how people say nestea shouldn't lose on "zerg" favored maps when they are all pretty even .Good series wish Nestea had won though but MVP just has his number and is to gosu. | ||
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GotTheLife
91 Posts
I'm talking about in series -.- | ||
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Dac
Canada538 Posts
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Ravar
United States447 Posts
On October 12 2011 04:04 Dac wrote: So someone has it cheap either Gomtv or Blizzard, since MVP is participating in both Blizzcon and the GSL final... Did you really think that either Nestea or MVP would be in the finals as well when they were announced as going to blizzcon. | ||
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